No, Reddit ruined Reddit for everyone. The AI slops are simply what replace the people who left.
AI Slop Is Ruining Reddit for Everyone
Submitted 22 hours ago by Hubi@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.wired.com/story/ai-slop-is-ruining-reddit-for-everyone/
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pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Yeah, also the people. The comment sections are cancer. Lame jokes from dickheads that don’t add anything.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The day they got rid of reddit gold and started cash grabbing hard was the day the writing was on the wall.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
They got rid of gold?? When?? I left reddot and came to Lemmy in the third-party apps exodus and haven’t even looked back
h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Yeah, after reading the article, it was like, oh, so the same fake stories but actually grammar corrected?
Also, most people who sre like “i have this tells tl detect AI” would not know at all whether something is AI or not lol
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Yeah, I’ve noticed an uptic of AI generated content being posted outside the AI circle jerk subreddits. Places like the AoE4 and Bionicle subreddits have had quite a number of AI posts already.
Theyve become too courageous, with others going out of the way to defend the use of generative AI with weak arguments like “but cars also steal jobs”.
The one subreddit that I’ve seen have a healthy response against AI generated content is the Bionicle subreddit. Doesn’t really surprise me as the Bionicle community is full of creatives.
pulsey@feddit.org 1 hour ago
“stealing jobs” is a weak argument itself, that can always happen with new technology.
The real argument is that people create something uncreative and unthoughtful and therefore slop. AI doesnt make uncreative people creative.
notreallyhere@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
no ; reddit is ruining reddit for everyone.
aramis87@fedia.io 20 hours ago
I beg to differ: spez has ruined reddit for everyone.
Pringles@sopuli.xyz 18 hours ago
Not for himself, as he just joined the billionaire club. I would probably have ruined it for a billion as well, if I’m being completely honest.
BanMe@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
That’s when things started going off the rails yes. Remember Victoria and the good ol days?
BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
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aeronmelon@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
{lemmysilver}
jimmy90@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
nah reddit is fine for loads of things
better than lemmy in fact but then it has FOUR orders of magnitude more active users
objectorientedposter@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
no; no; no; no; no; no; no; no; no; no; no; no;
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 hours ago
Yeah, that happened way before the current AI slop bubble.
andallthat@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Yes it did. Making up variation of the same story in order to farm upvotes used to be done by humans.
But the strategy of throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks has now been industrialized with AI, because the machine can produce tons of cheaper, faster, smellier shit.
Socials are basically the perfect application for AI. Unreliable results are not a bug but a feature. You have humans helpfully training it for free by up or downvoting the result. And the AI companies get a machine trained to persuade large groups of people of any made-up story.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 hours ago
Don’t need ai for that. Before AI, bots would simply copy top post from a year ago to farm up votes, and then sell the account to marketers.
dhork@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Reddit was one of the most human places on the Internet, until King Steven the Turd decided that it’s human interactions were a valuable resource that he could sell.
Now, it’s all just bots talking to bots to learn how to sound human.
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
The engagement bots constantly peppering my comments with inane remarks to draw a reaction is what drove me to Lemmy. I was there early on, and it was awesome. As its popularity grew, it became less nice, but I still enjoyed going there. In the end, I didn’t feel like commenting because I knew that I’d just get hit with stupid responses calculated to draw a response. It just felt harassing.
nulluser@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
peppering my comments with inane remarks to draw a reaction
They’re here, too.
I occasionally see comments to the effect of, “Oh, really? Can you tell me more about that?” That seem pretty likely to just be bots trying to generate data on certain topics for AI training. Thankfully, most people seem to ignore them.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Digg 2.0 jumper in 2009. I always thought there would be a new Reddit after 2014. But it took 10 years for Lemmy to show up.
dublet@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
socsa@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Maybe in 2012. Once it started to be a right wing information warfare battlefield it got pretty insufferable. Like a lot of the niche content was still there, but the broader culture changed immensely.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
No, there’s a lot of human bigotry too.
Minimac@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Lemmy way better than Reddit
BuckenBerry@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
That’s mostly a result of obscurity.
87Six@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Doesn’t make it any less better. It sucks that the second something becomes mainstream, it gets sloppified imediatelly. Look at Reddit, Discord…
ekZepp@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
True and true.
ekZepp@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
LefterShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
reddit already ruined reddit for everyone long before AI was a concern.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
I mean that’s why we’re here…
DSN9@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
People still use reddit?
treesquid@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
And yet it still had room to get worse, and it’s still not even in its shittiest form.
super_user_do@feddit.it 3 hours ago
I hate that now there’s even automated profiles managed by AIs which basically ragebait constantly on normal subreddits. And im not even talking about large ones. Heck this must be the worst psyop ever made in recent history
Grass@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
spez ruined reddit for everyone
PetteriPano@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
What? What did the moderator of r/jailbait do now?
Stern@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
That one always rung a big hollow to me because of the timeframe of it. At the time he was made a mod there, invites didn’t exist. Folks could just be added to subs- it was actually a method for trolling. At the time, I could add Steve to r/SteveLovesDiddlingKids, for example, and he’d have no say in it. They changed it to an invite system after a subreddit called r/CrabBucket heavily abused it to force folks to stay.
That said, one can quite readily say that spez implicitly supported the jailbait subreddit when he left it up for several years knowingly (Including it being a subheader for reddit on google searches, and it getting nominated for subreddit of the year along with several votes for it.) and only got rid of it when Anderson Cooper did a report on CNN about it.
Psythik@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Creepy little shit.
Sarcasmo@piefed.social 22 hours ago
Reddit was ruined for me a couple of years ago and AI wasn’t involved. I no longer interact there but I do still read Reddit occasionally. Personally I find it difficult to wade through hundreds of one-liners without forgetting what the post was about.
finitebanjo@piefed.world 22 hours ago
I mean, yeah, I left during the first wave of API changes and before the company went public, but the AI has definitely made it completely unusable.
micka190@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Every sub I was active in has become one of two things:
- Bot spam
- Dead
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I find the usefulness of a subreddit is inversely proportional to its size (popularity). There are still some good ones but they are quite small.
I had hoped Lemmy would fill this void for me but it’s still too small overall such that the smallest communities are barely active at all. Thus I tend to just scroll the feed of everything and see what catches my eye, admittedly a much less useful way to spend my time since I get sucked into ragebait instead of discussing cool hobbies.
chaogomu@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Are you me? Because that’s exactly what I’ve been doing. I set my default browse experience to Top 6 hour and then scroll All.
I do miss the community aspect of Reddit. There were other users who I ran into regularly in the comments. And usually not in a hostile way.
Hell, there was one sub where I was invited to the mod team because of those interactions. I did that for a couple years and continued to be active in the sub until Reddit start pissing off mods. That and my main “friend” on the mod team had his account nuked by Reddit after he fell for a troll.
Reddit removed every comment he had ever made, including wonderful and well cited rebuttals of the right-wing bigotry of the day.
So yeah, I logged out of that reddit account and have never logged back in, instead I use a burner account and try not comment on anything.
makyo@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Yeah if there was a niche Lemmy sub for everything I would no longer visit Reddit at all but I can’t get my Nightreign fix here sadly
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 21 hours ago
Libreddit FTW
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
That thing hasn’t been maintained for almost 3 years.
scarabic@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Someone should write a Reddit client that automatically hides the top two comments and all their children, because they’re inevitably stupid jokes that add nothing.
Oh right. No one can make new Reddit clients anymore.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 21 hours ago
Now AI is also ruining reddit users ruining reddit!
jali67@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
AI slop is ruining everything *
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
Reddit was the playground for ai slop long before commercial LLMs existed. Subredditsimulator was like 2014 or 2015 and people were fucking with markov chains and other shit that dated back to like the 90s or even 70s but that also had some people experimenting with rudimentary neural networks, though obviously none with the computing power of shit like chatgpt or gemini. And obviously that whole experiment was inspired in part by the fact that botted comments were becoming increasingly common and obvious on reddit in the years leading to it, so why not make a subreddit where everyone participating is a bot?
There’s no proof but openai researchers may have been fucking around on that sub. There was a fairly drastic increase in quality of posts in that sub around the time openai would’ve been making gpt1 (2018ish) and then they began aggressively scraping the entirety of reddit, quora, etc for content. Could just be a coincidence though and they’ll never confirm it even if it’s true bc redditors will flip shit
AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 4 hours ago
Honestly subreddit simulator was amazing. At that time I was super into text generation, I programmed a few basic Markov chains as well. It is a shame that modern generative AI sucked the joy out of what I considered a fun toy at the time.
Scrollone@feddit.it 6 hours ago
Damn I had forgot about subredditsimulator. It felt like AI was stupid and funny, and look where we are now
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Why would they care? People still on reddit don’t seem likely to leave
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
Joelk111@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Niche communities that simply don’t exist on Lemmy. If your only hobbies are tech, lemmy probably covers all of your bases, but there are nearly no niche non-tech communities here.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
but there are nearly no niche non-tech communities here.
And if they do exist, there are 4 subscribers and zero posts in the last 6 months.
frongt@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
And regional communities. There’s not nearly enough people in the fediverse to support city or state communities. And only the most populous countries.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 14 hours ago
They did exist before reddit as forums, however they where fragmented across different languages and websites. At some point Google started to show reddit more often, because it was more search engine optimized and mobile friendly. This means new users found reddit first, and old users where slowly pulled away from their forums into reddit.
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Can’t lie I miss r/sneakers. As an avid collector I miss the engagement
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
Some are pretty limited even in reddit too
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
There’s also fun bullshit communities that refuse to migrate too. I listen to some of them on YouTube as they read the stories from there while I work on other things or drive.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Right now I don’t have a reddit account and I just lurk there, but if I really wanted to talk about, say, a specific TV show I like, or a Movie, or Anime, or a Book… that would not exist on the fediverse. It’s either just Reddit or maybe Discord.
If I wanna talk about stuff from a non-white perspective, the best place I’d really find my people outside the great firewall is Reddit.
I mean I the amount of Cantonese-speakers on Lemmy is like… single-digits
sengokuFrance@lemmy.kya.moe 8 hours ago
As long as people keep going to reddit instead of starting a post about the latest episode, or movie, book, etc. there will never be anything here for people to talk about.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Reddit’s founder and investors killed reddit, the method they used is immaterial.
TomMasz@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Reddit was ruined long ago, this just accelerates the decline.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Fuck reddit
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 20 hours ago
Let’s not blame AI for everything: Reddit had a lot of problems before AI became big. Repost bots are so common that you’ll see the same posts over and over again. Some of those twitter screenshots must have been posted hundreds or thousands of times. OnlyFans spam also works without AI. And we have had those bots spamming the same stupid comments before people were even thinking about GPTs.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
You mean those pictures all over the front page of kittens with a caption like “I found this guy in a shoebox, in the basement, hungry. I fed him and named him Mortimer.” are not real?!?!
wulrus@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I’m reading AI content there, and when I post, I’m getting accused of being a bot / using an LLM. Fantastic.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Reddit was the good place after the fall of Digg 2.0. Now Reddit has become the bad place.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
fodor@lemmy.zip 10 hours ago
Is? It’s done already. But the bots got there years ago, so who really cares about now.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
one of the most human spaces left on the internet
Journalism once again demonstrating they are about 10-15 years behind on the times. Did they forget reddit completely broke back in 2016 when the_donald left the place in a permanent troll state.
I’m not going to read the article on account of time right now but I’m guessing it’s written as if reddit was invented yesterday and the prior 20 years of reddit history is didn’t happen.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 hours ago
Reddit already ruined Reddit. The AI slop is just the broken glass in the turd.
ccunning@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
What, dd /u/spez change his name to /u/AI_Slop?
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
imagine ruining reddit
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
Good, do Fark next.
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
oh no
falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Reddit is already ruined and has been for a while. And it’s been ruined by the greedy Reddit CEO.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
Also the turtle fucker that is a mod everywhere. I’m so curious how they make money being a shitty person.