Submitted 4 months ago by mech@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
Completely off topic, but I hate when articles appear to link to original sources, but only link to their own site.
“Microsoft admitted that …” -> link to Microsoft’s admission? Nope, to a neowin article.
“Nvidia released a patch …” -> links to a neowin article.
“Microsoft KB 0000” -> surely this will link to the actual KB? Nope, neowin article.
Guess what! 😱😂
Ah but there are also a lot of minor features in Windows 11 that aren’t really looking too good.
I’ve still got a year of updates on my Verizon of 10. I’m going to use them.
I finally went 100% Linux and I’m never going back.
I use Linux on everything except my gaming rig… There are games that I like that only run on windows. As soon as that’s handled I’ll make the switch on they machine too.
I use windows 11 everyday, without issue. what exactly is broken?
I use windows 11 everyday
“no kink shaming” is a hard rule to follow sometimes
It doesn’t understand the concept of “no means no”.
The article is about a XAML bug, which affects a lot of core components, when used in a corporate setting.
Kind of a wide variety of things that varies from person to person in often absurd ways – broken in ways I’ve never seen Macs or Linux systems be, nor even Windows 10 and older.
And that’s just my personal experiences. The ones I’ve seen others deal with is much weirder.
Honestly I’m buying more into the idea of how ostree distros work; Windows is like a very broken version of that anymore.
On my work computer when I maximize a window, I get a little strip of desktop still showing between the window and the start bar.
One I see daily at work is File Explorer adding an extra ‘window’ when you hover over the icon in the taskbar. If you click on it, nothing happens, and you cant close it either.
I’ve been using windows 11 for six months. when I hover over the taskbar, a phantom windows explorer window appears, but it’s not clickable and it disappears when I move the mouse away. my right hand monitor has a white box with a small ‘no’ symbol in it stuck in the middle of the screen. it doesn’t seem to derive from any running application and I cannot get rid of it. on the windows 10 install I ran before, the task manager totally stopped working, it just froze every time I opened it. I run Linux on all my other machines and stuff does go wrong, but it goes wrong in ways that make sense to me and which I can fix. on windows people just tell you to run sfc scannow and reinstall if it doesn’t work. that’s no way to live your life.
The start menu is mostly white for me. I have to type out what I want because I can’t navigate it
At work I’ve had issues with the Start Bar not showing any/most programs and centering the one program that does show up (even though I have it left aligned). Then when I mouse over it, it’ll try to move to where it should be causing it to jump around and be unclickable.
I’ve also had the file explorer just stop working entirely.
This is on a pretty powerful dev laptop, so it’s not lack of resources.
That being said I’ve never heard of anyone else having that issue so it seems rare.
Your perception
This is why I have always waited for the version that is just like the previous ones, but fixed. 3.11, 98SE, XP SP2, 7, 10…
I need to get a new computer, and it has to have windows, but I’m not getting freaking Win11. Gimme Win12.
Hate to break it to you but those days are over.
From what we know so far, Win 12 will go all in on AI, cloud and a subscription model.
That system fell apart when they showed they could not count to 9. 10 Should have been 9, and it was mid at best.
My prediction is that they’ll go full SaaS and make the non-pro version “free”, with a whole raft of features “cloud only” behind a Azure/O365 subscription.
See. This is why they need AI. Copilot will fix all of the issues if they just ask it nicely and tell it to not make mistakes.
And that is how it began…
I use copilot at work all the time and it’s incredibly useful. However, it needs careful supervision to produce good quality. And obviously, you need to understand code and what quality means to be able to guide it, otherwise it’s just the blind guiding the blind.
Personally I think the problem is the culture which doesn’t promote quality, but speed and the wow factor. You don’t get promoted for releasing a bug free product, you get promoted for making yourself noticed among the upper management.
Nah, copilot will see the code is unsalvageable. So it’ll start replacing it with code learned from public repositories. Windows becomes Linux. Year of the Linux desktop achieved.
As silly as that sounds, it is the absolute truth.
All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.
Cries in supporting multi-user AVD Hosts
So when will we see W12?
Oh right, never mind. 🐧
Probably never, Windows 10 was supposed to be the last version of Windows we’d ever need and they just killed that.
I will be using Win10 for dev and audio purposes, then I’ll install Linux on my main PC too, not just my ThinkPad.
Depending on your needs and hardware, Linux audio can bring full satisfaction. The new subsystem, Pipewire (replacing both PulseAudio and JACK) is very convenient and still low latency. Applications are still catching up but the ecosystem has made major strides in recent years.
Here are some Windows 12 rumors (pulled from one of the biggest German-language tech news sites citing insider information)
computerbild.de/…/cb-News-Windows-12-Geruechte-Re…
A subscription lol. I’ll keep on running Linux.
They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc…, but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.
We aren’t the consumer anymore. We are the product. The vessel which makes them money by collecting, storing, and selling our data. They don’t care about making a good OS for their users anymore. Just a money train to prove their value to their shareholders.
Best part is they tied up everyone’s retirement into it. Can’t even say you want that shit to crash without grandma getting nasty.
Really hoping Microsoft fails for everything ezcept Xbox. Then Xbox team takes over and then turns the company into a private non-stock unionized one
Would love to see what an Xbox-lead Microsoft can do with it reformed
What are Microsofts most moneymaking fields aboce Xbox? Are they getting eroded at all?
Hate to break it to you but Xbox is pretty much the bottom rung of Microsoft in terms of profit.
Xbox OG was good, everything since then has been garbage. The UI just makes me want to vomit and reminds me of windows 8.
Forget them too. I’m all full steam ahead on SteamOS.
Xbox feels like the biggest one being eroded rn… i don’t think what Xbox is doing is any good nor would it help the main business
Azure is the cloud backbone of many businesses and services, so if Windows went away, MS would still have their fingers in a number of pies.
I’ve previously predicted that Microsoft would slowly divest of Windows thanks to declining desktop/laptop markets and eventually as a cost saving measure cut over to just making a Linux distro with their own proprietary DE.
As it is if the rumors are true that they’re destroying their codebase with AI coding they’ll have quite the job ahead of them to clean it all up once the AI bubble pops. They’d have two easier options essentially at that point: either roll back 2-6 years in their codebase and rebuild every update and change that they wanted to keep or rewrite from scratch (which they’d basically be looking at in order to clean up the AI mess) I could very much see a future where Microsoft looks at that gargantuan job and says “ehh let’s just use someone else’s work” and shifts to a Linux of BSD kernel
Microsoft has government and cooperate costumers that will keep paying them for decades. Why care? If MSword still works, people will buy it.
Except they’re slowly being ditched for Linux. LibreOffice can do most things MSOffice can. One thing it cannot do is “cooperative work online, in an Office365 document”, which might force governments to develop their own solutions instead of letting users hide other people’s fields, then waste my work time on duckduckgoing all the newly discovered cell hiding methods, because some other institute’s office workers thought it was useful to them, but forget to unhide them every time.
I’ll take it one step further and say that if you absolutely must use Office, O365 works in a browser on any operating system. You literally don’t need Windows anymore for that.
So they’ve taken a leaf out of KDE’s development book.
Is windows11 Microsoft’s KDE4 moment?
What’s your preferred DE?
Does it have to be a DE?
Preferred WM is Xmonad (with my tabular boonad config, the grandpa version).
But much love also for herbstluftwm.
And dwm, openbox, icewm, i3, and others.
I have all these window managers in my wmrotate scripts in my wminizer script, so I can kill one and move to the next, without losing all running gui programs, keeping my X11 session going.
But if it has to be strictly DE…
I guess LXDE’s still my fave.
Respect to XFCE and Trinity too. And Mate.
KDE’s awesome. Big love to it again, after it got settled in after the KDE4 debacle.
LXQt’s fine too (though I prefer LXDE).
I’ve not tried Cosmic.
I dont know my way around cinnamon and the various other similar. Only briefly experienced.
GNOME have utterly lost the plot.
Why’d you ask?
I feel like Windows 11 is just another Microsoft “Windows moment”.
In last April:
“Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by AI”
That was this April
sorry I think in academic calender
Vibe coding!?
Oh yes. That’ll make windows even better. Doh!
I totally asked Claude what vibe coding was. Programmers that code and use AI to help. Got it.
Microsoft finally admits
almost all majorWindows 11core featuresare broken
FTFY
Windows 11 are broken
All your brokens are belong to us.
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Well, it does boot most of the time. So it’s not completely broken, just majorly broken…
What it boots into is broken.
The more it works, the more it’s broken.
It’s broken that much, at such a deep level.
Last month they broke audio drivers, so USB connected speakers were not being recognised unless they had third-party drivers. The native windows drivers just stopped recognising them as audio devices, and just listed them as Unknown Device.
Windows could see them, it had no idea what they were, or what to do with them. So you had no audio.
The only solution was to continuously restart until eventually it randomly worked.
Didn’t windows 11 become available long ago? Did not one ever try it out before the hostage situation?
Certainly not the beta testers
I mean they pretty famously laid off the majority of their QA teams around the time of the Windows 10 rollout
Maybe all the dependable beta testers who would report bugs had already left to Linux or BSD.
Or like the other commenter replied here suggests,
Maybe dependable beta testers who would report bugs had too steep a workload they gave up and moved to Linux or BSD.
I tried it for a couple of months when it first came out. At that early point it wasn’t too bad for usability. But, after a decent look around it, I wiped it and went back to Linux on my laptop.
For what it’s worth, my KDE file browser would freeze up when I had a WebDav network drive to a server that went offline, not exactly elegant either, just opening my home folder and randomly after a second or two …… all software can bug in bad ways.
I don’t believe that is a KDE specific issue. I’ve seen it in most DE’s
It’s more of a mount/file system limitation. For whatever reason you have to explicitly tell the file system that if it can’t connect to something, to timeout.
Add a timeout to your mount rule and if it ends up being unavailable it’ll just timeout instead of freezing your file browser.
Also happened to me just yesterday when I put my raspberry PI offline that served as a NAS, dolphin just became frozen…
If it is this easy to reproduce, maybe we should file a bug report - it is really annoying/buggy behaviour. I am not opening the network folder, so maybe it’s trying to greedely cache media files for preview thumbnails or something, I don’t know…
Trinity’s more stable and dependable.
Or openbox, declared feature complete something like a decade ago.
Not that they’re going to fix any of them though.
That Win10 extended update program is great if you need it fyi
Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don’t have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn’t at risk of wanting to come back…
You know I never really thought about it but do you think the spying tools these companies provide ever fail like the way their other products do?
They’re going to be heroes when they fix Windows
IT has been an interesting ride the last two months, encountering some of the weirdest bugs I’ve ever seen, after two decades of Windows working just fine for the most part.
When do I get calendar on my systray or whatever they call it on my other monitor?
As an Apple shareholder, I’d just like to thank Microsoft for their outstanding contribution to selling more Macs.
Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue
Install Linux.
It’s nice of them to admit it, but saying Windows is broken is a bit like saying water is wet
They’re contributing to making the world a better place by increasing Linux adoption. Thank you anonymous Microsoft vibe coders and overly enthusiastic PMs.
FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
The real fix is switching to Linux if possible.