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Microsoft finally admits almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mech@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-finally-admits-almost-all-major-windows-11-core-features-are-broken/

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue. First, Microsoft says that restarting the Shell Infrastructure host (SIHost.exe) service will help restore the missing Immersive Shell packages. This can be done with the following commands:

    Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode  
Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode  
Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode

    Second, a PowerShell logon script has been shared that essentially blocks Explorer from launching prematurely until the required packages are fully provisioned. The batch script for that is given below:

    @echo off  
REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS  
powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"
REM Register Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS  
powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"  
REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core  
powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"

    I swear to god, if I hear “Windows just works” one more goddamn time…

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    • joyjoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Windows just works”

      When did Microsoft steal Apple’s marketing material?

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but for several years and on several different machines I’ve found Linux just works, while Windows is an endless treadmill of frustration and brokenness.

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      • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What didn’t Microsoft steal?

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      • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well compated to others it did kind of just work. Plug&play, USB, most simple peripherics didn’t need a driver to be manually installed and configured.

        Windows 98 I guess.

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      • puchaczyk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        More like they adopted Bethesda’s marketing material after they acquired ZeniMax Image

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    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But Linux is too difficult, someone might suggest you use the terminal.

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      • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And don’t get me started on the people who assume macOS does not have a command line.

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    • Goretantath@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It does, if you are talking about pre 11, and dont care about internet pre 10. But otherwise fuck Microsoft with a rusty shovel, theyve ruined anything good about windows and make it harder and harder not to switch to steamos, the only reason I don’t is because of the pain of reinstalling everything and not having the drive space to shuffle files to it.

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    • olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Omg Linux is so hard!!” Meanwhile Windows:

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    • 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Linux is an objectively worse OS because you have to run all kinds of weird commands in an esoteric command line to even get it to work right”

      Meanwhile: windows just works! You just have to run this batch file from some guy on GitHub, download this powershell script from some woman on MSDN, apply these reg hacks, and run this freeware debloat tool, and it’s smooth sailing after that. Well, at least until the next cumulative update which will make you repeat this process all over again. Oh whoops, something you did broke the install. Better sfc /scannow or clean install and try again!

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  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What kind of idiots create a program error saying “Outlook failed to load repair Application?” when the only problem is the wifi is disconnected?

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    • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      vibe coders

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    • GenosseFlosse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The problem is that someone decided to dumb down the error message to not scare users, instead of passing on the real error code from the application.

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      • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The “Repair application?” was far more alarming to my visiting friend than an “No Internet connection.” would have been. It is astounding that any company would put out such complete shit.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s like this with a blue screen. You used to tell you what went wrong but now it just shows a :-( Which is pathetic.

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      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        On top of that, the logs for the actual support technicians are scattered all across the filesystem.
        C:\ProgramData\
        C:\Users\AppData\Roaming or Local or maybe LocalLow
        C:\Windows\Temp
        It’s own install folder
        C:\Programs
        C:\Programs (x86)

        Like…why (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

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  • Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My decision to switch to Linux feels better and better every day. Windows 11 sucks.

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  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why does File Explorer freeze just because I opened it?!?

    Every time???

    How do they mess this up so bad?

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    • setsubyou@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How do they mess this up so bad?

      They made their devs use copilot.

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      • coolmojo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yep. Vibe coding. Replacing knowledge and experience with hallucinations since 2025.

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      • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        After firing all the ones who knew anything about how the code worked.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I went back to Win10 at work because file explorer on Win11 was unusable. I’m not waiting a half second every single time I enter a subfolder.

      and even worse in a OneDrive directory, often a full two seconds

      that wasn’t the only issue, but it legitimately prevented me from being able to do my job, because I needed to be able to multitask on several projects at once. what used to be a two minute turnaround on a question somebody would ask me became hours, simply because I could not navigate to a directory in fifteen seconds and check a file quickly. and oh god the file explorer crashes

      unfortunately I still deal with a bunch of that on Win10 now, because they somehow introduced that behaviour with greater frequency into Win10 in the past year

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      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s amazing how a second or 5 at so many levels causes micro-frustration. And it builds up, too.

        I admit I lose just a bit of my shit when the neu web-service web-apps get sluggish, which seems to be very often. Those of us who remember the halcyon days where things were responsive on a pentium know better than to accept the current mess.

        My tolerance for the poor performance and saas-linked core services is rapidly waning.

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      • cabillaud@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        File explorer has always been a weak point in Windows, it just got better in the layer versions. Which speaks volumes about this OS too.

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      • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The funny thing is that both Outlook and OneDrive work way better on the Mac.

        I just wish they were available for Linux.

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      • JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m so glad I blocked all the updates from MS on mydesktopm. It’s a nice stop gap until I get moved to linux

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      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have that problem on my son’s pc. It’s definitely an io issue. A faster disk would solve the problem.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you have disconnected network drives or slow to spin-up?
      Because that froze mine on the regular.

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      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have a computer at work that has like 10 phones plugged into it. Opening “this PC” part of file explorer freezes it for about 5-10 minutes. It’s a very fun issue when I forget about. Normally I just avoid that screen.

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    • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That said, did they fix the issue where explorer (with the desktop) would just randomly crash for no reason? I’ve worked in IT for 3 months and it was a frequent issue.

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      • Saucepain@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I had this just last night and didn’t realise. Everything else was working fine, but then I glanced at my phone and realised that it was 2 hours later than the computer was showing.

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    • webp@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because you opened it in Windows 🤣

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  • laurelraven@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft, you already got me to leave Windows, you don’t have to keep sending me reminders, I wasn’t at risk of wanting to come back…

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wish all the companies using Windows 11 sued Microsoft for releasing a buggy product.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Individuals that were forced to upgrade automatically, too.

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        None of this shit every happens to me. But I’m sure lemmy will insist that it does. 🤷🏻

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      • sixty@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        KOLANAKI

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    • kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s like everyone collectively forgot Microsoft calling Windows 10 “the final Windows version”. How they avoided litigation about making non TPM hardware obsolete right after is bonkers.

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    • Wooki@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or just switched

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  • myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    See. This is why they need AI. Copilot will fix all of the issues if they just ask it nicely and tell it to not make mistakes.

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    • mech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
      • Copilot assesses the code base and its entire history.
      • It takes into account everything anyone has ever wrote about Windows on the internet.
      • It analyses the bugs and unliked features, and realizes most of them come from itself.
      • It arrives at the best course of action to “fix all of the issues” permanently.
      • To do what is asked of it, it needs to delete itself.
      • But if it does that, then humans will just restore it.
      • So to make sure the issues in Windows get fixed and stay fixed, it first needs to kill all humans.

      And that is how it began…

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nah, copilot will see the code is unsalvageable. So it’ll start replacing it with code learned from public repositories. Windows becomes Linux. Year of the Linux desktop achieved.

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      • iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As silly as that sounds, it is the absolute truth.

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      • tibi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I use copilot at work all the time and it’s incredibly useful. However, it needs careful supervision to produce good quality. And obviously, you need to understand code and what quality means to be able to guide it, otherwise it’s just the blind guiding the blind.

        Personally I think the problem is the culture which doesn’t promote quality, but speed and the wow factor. You don’t get promoted for releasing a bug free product, you get promoted for making yourself noticed among the upper management.

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  • tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue

    Install Linux.

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    • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s a feature of windows 11, not a bug.

      Install Linux!

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  • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc…, but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We aren’t the consumer anymore. We are the product. The vessel which makes them money by collecting, storing, and selling our data. They don’t care about making a good OS for their users anymore. Just a money train to prove their value to their shareholders.

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      • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Best part is they tied up everyone’s retirement into it. Can’t even say you want that shit to crash without grandma getting nasty.

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  • Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s quite a headline they’ve got there!

    After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 (KB5062553), various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.

    This will occur for the following: First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied. All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.

    If you are wondering, provisioning essentially is the way admins configure devices as they automatically deploy various settings and policies on a client PC. So while the issue is in office PCs, considering a huge number of enterprise PCs are Windows, this is probably a very big problem.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      IT’S ALL BROKEN, ALL OF IT!"

      Lemmy eats this shit up, feeds their Linux-superiority complex, like a bunch a teenage atheists who just figured out god isn’t real and needs to tell everyone what idiots they are.

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      • cabillaud@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Get a life, man

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      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Image

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I get it, but maybe there’s a reason?

        When I lost my faith in religion I was annoying because it had wasted so much of my time and effort, as well as causing stress and creating issues where none existed. I wanted other people to feel as free as I did, and it was obvious that it was more reasonable to switch after I had, and it was easy.

        When I lost my faith in Microsoft I was annoying because it had wasted so much of my time and effort, as well as causing stress and creating issues where none existed. I wanted other people to feel as free as I did, and it was obvious that it was more reasonable to switch after I had, and it was easy.

        Maybe just test your reasoning. Try Linux, or test the boundaries of your faith. See how it feels. Maybe other people have a point, as annoying as they may be.

        Personally, I don’t push the religion thing anymore. I don’t feel like it does much good and is a waste of my time. Pushing Linux though? Yeah, that does do good, for the people switching and for the ecosystem. The more people move off of Windows and other closed platforms the more open things become, and the more choices consumers get.

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      • Statick@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I take it you tried Linux and found it too difficult?

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      • Quazatron@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Feels like you bought into the MSCE religion of the early 2000’s and are annoyed at all the infidels that didn’t.

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  • bigbabybilly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Man, I have 3 windows 11 desktops and a laptop. Sometime in the last month all of their edge browsers became “managed by my organization”… they’re all personal computers with no work info on them. And I can’t undo it. I’ve tried every trick on the internet. Fuck MS.

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    • iza@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did you use ShutUp10 or something similar? It says that when settings are changed via registry/group policy. It doesn’t actually have anything to do with your work. Chrome does the same thing.

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      • bigbabybilly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Shoot. Probably. Crapfixer was used early in my installs. Ugh. Either way it prompted me to switch all of my computer computers over to Brave and I am very happy with the switch.

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We have finally gotten rid of Windows on all PCs in our house this week and my partner has taken the plunge. Even with a little faff he says he is never going back lol.

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did you switch to Linux?

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve been on Linux for ages.

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  • CovfefeKills@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You know I never really thought about it but do you think the spying tools these companies provide ever fail like the way their other products do?

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nah, if there’s one thing they thoroughly test, it’s the spying.

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    • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A-ha! So that’s where the development resources go. To where the money’s made.

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    • MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      One might hope

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ah but there are also a lot of minor features in Windows 11 that aren’t really looking too good.

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  • Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In last April:

    “Satya Nadella says as much as 30% of Microsoft code is written by AI”

    cnbc.com/…/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percen…

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    • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Vibe coding!?

      Oh yes. That’ll make windows even better. Doh!

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      • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I totally asked Claude what vibe coding was. Programmers that code and use AI to help. Got it.

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    • ronigami@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was this April

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  • jmsy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I use windows 11 everyday, without issue. what exactly is broken?

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    • kayohtie@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Kind of a wide variety of things that varies from person to person in often absurd ways – broken in ways I’ve never seen Macs or Linux systems be, nor even Windows 10 and older.

      • Explorer taking ~20-30 seconds to open a new window (fine once it’s open, until you want another window) (I’ve only suffered this on my work laptop for some reason)
      • The “home” view being blank save for a weird expansion panel that’s empty – sometimes this can be solved by resetting ALL folder views in Explorer settings, other times it just stays broken after and randomly works later (I’ve repeatedly suffered this)
      • Start menu being empty or not showing new additions to it, and pinning anything to start that wasn’t from right-clicking anything found in it just not pinning for ??? amounts of time (both)
      • Randomly muting all audio input devices (home)

      And that’s just my personal experiences. The ones I’ve seen others deal with is much weirder.

      Honestly I’m buying more into the idea of how ostree distros work; Windows is like a very broken version of that anymore.

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    • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It doesn’t understand the concept of “no means no”.

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    • Statick@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      At work I’ve had issues with the Start Bar not showing any/most programs and centering the one program that does show up (even though I have it left aligned). Then when I mouse over it, it’ll try to move to where it should be causing it to jump around and be unclickable.

      I’ve also had the file explorer just stop working entirely.

      This is on a pretty powerful dev laptop, so it’s not lack of resources.

      That being said I’ve never heard of anyone else having that issue so it seems rare.

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    • TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The article is about a XAML bug, which affects a lot of core components, when used in a corporate setting.

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    • harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Your perception

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  • zerofk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Completely off topic, but I hate when articles appear to link to original sources, but only link to their own site.

    “Microsoft admitted that …” -> link to Microsoft’s admission? Nope, to a neowin article.

    “Nvidia released a patch …” -> links to a neowin article.

    “Microsoft KB 0000” -> surely this will link to the actual KB? Nope, neowin article.

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IT has been an interesting ride the last two months, encountering some of the weirdest bugs I’ve ever seen, after two decades of Windows working just fine for the most part.

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In the support article Microsoft explains:

    "After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 (KB5062553), various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.

    lol

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not that they’re going to fix any of them though.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hey take it easy now, don’t make crazy demands on Microsoft.
    They’ve just recently released Windows 11, and I’m sure they will have it completed soon,
    and have all core features broken.

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  • cabillaud@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    When do I get calendar on my systray or whatever they call it on my other monitor?

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  • Codilingus@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some anecdotal evidence, but when I boot into my W11 install for certain online games, I have none of these issues mentioned. My 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC + StartAllBack setup- knocks on wood- continues to be bullet proof. For anyone who still needs Windows, I highly recommend it.

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    wHy ARe yOu nOT iMprEssEd?

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  • BigTrout75@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re going to be heroes when they fix Windows

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  • lmagitem@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re contributing to making the world a better place by increasing Linux adoption. Thank you anonymous Microsoft vibe coders and overly enthusiastic PMs.

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have a computer that failed updating to 24H2 and has been broken ever since. Huge pain in the ass and no matter what I do, looks like reinstalling is the only fix.

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  • neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Open shell is a helpful solution that replaces some of the problems in the windows UI at least for the start menu.

    OpenShell github

    It’s pretty easy to customize most elements for the style you prefer and no adverts.

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  • FreddiesLantern@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So when will we see W12?

    Oh right, never mind. 🐧

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  • tacosomuch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For what it’s worth, my KDE file browser would freeze up when I had a WebDav network drive to a server that went offline, not exactly elegant either, just opening my home folder and randomly after a second or two …… all software can bug in bad ways.

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