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Microsoft finally admits almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken
Submitted 4 months ago by mech@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
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Jhex@lemmy.world 4 months ago
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 months ago
Geez, talk about spreading FUD 🙄
This will occur for the following:
- First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied.
So it happens once, after this update was applied. Jesus christ the level of fake outrage and exaggeration is insane and should be studied.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you are wondering, provisioning essentially is the way admins configure devices as they automatically deploy various settings and policies on a client PC.
This is a thing us sysadmins should be aware of. And that’s the end of the fucking story.
Lemmy, through gritted teeth, “NAOWW! Your Windows install SUCKS!”
“Mine doesn’t have any of the issues I read about on lemmy.”
GET. BENT.
No lie. Every time I’ve merely mentioned that I’m not having the issues we’re raging about, downvoted, not one single reply.
Then they’ll hop over to other groups to trash on various Linux distros, “how do I get my video working?”, “why is this a total clusterfuck?”, and so on.
Same people who talked me into switching to Firefox. What a fucking mess. I was on Edge the other day thinking, “Wow, internet is working exceptionally well today! Oh, forgot to switch back to the superior browser.”
And these same people tell me several times a day to switch to Linux. Been there, done that, many times over the last 20-years. Headless Linux for servers? Only way to fly. Desktop? “Well, you can’t use all your peripherals, and you’ll have to use janky versions of the software you’re used to, but it’s better!”
Statick@programming.dev 4 months ago
You’re sysadmin that has issues with Firefox… What?
This has to be a ragebait account.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Aw someone’s a wittle bit cwanky 🥺
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
What kind of idiots create a program error saying “Outlook failed to load repair Application?” when the only problem is the wifi is disconnected?
Jhex@lemmy.world 4 months ago
vibe coders
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 4 months ago
The problem is that someone decided to dumb down the error message to not scare users, instead of passing on the real error code from the application.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
On top of that, the logs for the actual support technicians are scattered all across the filesystem.
C:\ProgramData\
C:\Users\AppData\RoamingorLocalor maybeLocalLow
C:\Windows\Temp
It’s own install folder
C:\Programs
C:\Programs (x86)Like…why (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
It’s like this with a blue screen. You used to tell you what went wrong but now it just shows a :-( Which is pathetic.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The “Repair application?” was far more alarming to my visiting friend than an “No Internet connection.” would have been. It is astounding that any company would put out such complete shit.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 months ago
We have finally gotten rid of Windows on all PCs in our house this week and my partner has taken the plunge. Even with a little faff he says he is never going back lol.
Scrollone@feddit.it 4 months ago
Did you switch to Linux?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 months ago
I’ve been on Linux for ages.
bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Man, I have 3 windows 11 desktops and a laptop. Sometime in the last month all of their edge browsers became “managed by my organization”… they’re all personal computers with no work info on them. And I can’t undo it. I’ve tried every trick on the internet. Fuck MS.
iza@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Did you use ShutUp10 or something similar? It says that when settings are changed via registry/group policy. It doesn’t actually have anything to do with your work. Chrome does the same thing.
bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Shoot. Probably. Crapfixer was used early in my installs. Ugh. Either way it prompted me to switch all of my computer computers over to Brave and I am very happy with the switch.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why does File Explorer freeze just because I opened it?!?
Every time???
How do they mess this up so bad?
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Do you have disconnected network drives or slow to spin-up?
Because that froze mine on the regular.fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I have a computer at work that has like 10 phones plugged into it. Opening “this PC” part of file explorer freezes it for about 5-10 minutes. It’s a very fun issue when I forget about. Normally I just avoid that screen.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That said, did they fix the issue where explorer (with the desktop) would just randomly crash for no reason? I’ve worked in IT for 3 months and it was a frequent issue.
Saucepain@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I had this just last night and didn’t realise. Everything else was working fine, but then I glanced at my phone and realised that it was 2 hours later than the computer was showing.
webp@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Because you opened it in Windows 🤣
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I went back to Win10 at work because file explorer on Win11 was unusable. I’m not waiting a half second every single time I enter a subfolder.
and even worse in a OneDrive directory, often a full two seconds
that wasn’t the only issue, but it legitimately prevented me from being able to do my job, because I needed to be able to multitask on several projects at once. what used to be a two minute turnaround on a question somebody would ask me became hours, simply because I could not navigate to a directory in fifteen seconds and check a file quickly. and oh god the file explorer crashes
unfortunately I still deal with a bunch of that on Win10 now, because they somehow introduced that behaviour with greater frequency into Win10 in the past year
Scrollone@feddit.it 4 months ago
The funny thing is that both Outlook and OneDrive work way better on the Mac.
I just wish they were available for Linux.
cabillaud@lemmy.world 4 months ago
File explorer has always been a weak point in Windows, it just got better in the layer versions. Which speaks volumes about this OS too.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m so glad I blocked all the updates from MS on mydesktopm. It’s a nice stop gap until I get moved to linux
InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I have that problem on my son’s pc. It’s definitely an io issue. A faster disk would solve the problem.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
It’s amazing how a second or 5 at so many levels causes micro-frustration. And it builds up, too.
I admit I lose just a bit of my shit when the neu web-service web-apps get sluggish, which seems to be very often. Those of us who remember the halcyon days where things were responsive on a pentium know better than to accept the current mess.
My tolerance for the poor performance and saas-linked core services is rapidly waning.
setsubyou@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How do they mess this up so bad?
They made their devs use copilot.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
After firing all the ones who knew anything about how the code worked.
coolmojo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yep. Vibe coding. Replacing knowledge and experience with hallucinations since 2025.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I have a computer that failed updating to 24H2 and has been broken ever since. Huge pain in the ass and no matter what I do, looks like reinstalling is the only fix.
neutronbumblebee@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Open shell is a helpful solution that replaces some of the problems in the windows UI at least for the start menu.
It’s pretty easy to customize most elements for the style you prefer and no adverts.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 months ago
In the support article Microsoft explains:
"After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 (KB5062553), various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.
lol
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
That’s quite a headline they’ve got there!
After provisioning a PC with a Windows 11, version 24H2 monthly cumulative update released on or after July 2025 (KB5062553), various apps such as StartMenuExperiencehost, Search, SystemSettings, Taskbar or Explorer might experience difficulties.
This will occur for the following: First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied. All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.
If you are wondering, provisioning essentially is the way admins configure devices as they automatically deploy various settings and policies on a client PC. So while the issue is in office PCs, considering a huge number of enterprise PCs are Windows, this is probably a very big problem.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
IT’S ALL BROKEN, ALL OF IT!"
Lemmy eats this shit up, feeds their Linux-superiority complex, like a bunch a teenage atheists who just figured out god isn’t real and needs to tell everyone what idiots they are.
Statick@programming.dev 4 months ago
I take it you tried Linux and found it too difficult?
Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Feels like you bought into the MSCE religion of the early 2000’s and are annoyed at all the infidels that didn’t.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I get it, but maybe there’s a reason?
When I lost my faith in religion I was annoying because it had wasted so much of my time and effort, as well as causing stress and creating issues where none existed. I wanted other people to feel as free as I did, and it was obvious that it was more reasonable to switch after I had, and it was easy.
When I lost my faith in Microsoft I was annoying because it had wasted so much of my time and effort, as well as causing stress and creating issues where none existed. I wanted other people to feel as free as I did, and it was obvious that it was more reasonable to switch after I had, and it was easy.
Maybe just test your reasoning. Try Linux, or test the boundaries of your faith. See how it feels. Maybe other people have a point, as annoying as they may be.
Personally, I don’t push the religion thing anymore. I don’t feel like it does much good and is a waste of my time. Pushing Linux though? Yeah, that does do good, for the people switching and for the ecosystem. The more people move off of Windows and other closed platforms the more open things become, and the more choices consumers get.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
cabillaud@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Get a life, man
Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Hey take it easy now, don’t make crazy demands on Microsoft.
They’ve just recently released Windows 11, and I’m sure they will have it completed soon,
and have all core features broken.dan@upvote.au 4 months ago
It sounds like you can just log out and back in to fix it? For a local system, the article says it only occurs for “First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied.”
mech@feddit.org 4 months ago
I’m administering >300 virtual desktops running Windows 11.
Imagine what my phone would sound like if I pushed this update.dan@upvote.au 4 months ago
Just net send everyone a message saying that if they have issues, they need to reboot.
(is net send still a thing?)
TheBat@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I wish all the companies using Windows 11 sued Microsoft for releasing a buggy product.
kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
It’s like everyone collectively forgot Microsoft calling Windows 10 “the final Windows version”. How they avoided litigation about making non TPM hardware obsolete right after is bonkers.
Wooki@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Or just switched
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 months ago
Individuals that were forced to upgrade automatically, too.
sixty@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
KOLANAKI
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
None of this shit every happens to me. But I’m sure lemmy will insist that it does. 🤷🏻
mech@feddit.org 4 months ago
Microsoft says that it is working on a fix but, for now, has provided a couple of workarounds to deal with the issue. First, Microsoft says that restarting the Shell Infrastructure host (SIHost.exe) service will help restore the missing Immersive Shell packages. This can be done with the following commands:
Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode
Second, a PowerShell logon script has been shared that essentially blocks Explorer from launching prematurely until the required packages are fully provisioned. The batch script for that is given below:
@echo off REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode" REM Register Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS_8wekyb3d8bbwe\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode" REM Register MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Command "Add-AppxPackage -Register -Path 'C:\Windows\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core_cw5n1h2txyewy\appxmanifest.xml' -DisableDevelopmentMode"
I swear to god, if I hear “Windows just works” one more goddamn time…
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“Linux is an objectively worse OS because you have to run all kinds of weird commands in an esoteric command line to even get it to work right”
Meanwhile: windows just works! You just have to run this batch file from some guy on GitHub, download this powershell script from some woman on MSDN, apply these reg hacks, and run this freeware debloat tool, and it’s smooth sailing after that. Well, at least until the next cumulative update which will make you repeat this process all over again. Oh whoops, something you did broke the install. Better sfc /scannow or clean install and try again!
olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
“Omg Linux is so hard!!” Meanwhile Windows:
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
But Linux is too difficult, someone might suggest you use the terminal.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And don’t get me started on the people who assume macOS does not have a command line.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
“Windows just works”
When did Microsoft steal Apple’s marketing material?
Goretantath@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It does, if you are talking about pre 11, and dont care about internet pre 10. But otherwise fuck Microsoft with a rusty shovel, theyve ruined anything good about windows and make it harder and harder not to switch to steamos, the only reason I don’t is because of the pain of reinstalling everything and not having the drive space to shuffle files to it.
Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
My decision to switch to Linux feels better and better every day. Windows 11 sucks.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Some anecdotal evidence, but when I boot into my W11 install for certain online games, I have none of these issues mentioned. My 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC + StartAllBack setup- knocks on wood- continues to be bullet proof. For anyone who still needs Windows, I highly recommend it.
BanMe@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve only been supporting Enterprise for a while, but for me Win 11 is just Win 10 with more graphical overhead, and a start menu coded with React for some goddamn reason, because it’s fun to gamble as to how many seconds it will take to pull up the start menu this time.
IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
I also like how it randomly brings up some random website first instead of an installed application I’m looking for. Corporate policy says windows, so I get paid to deal with it, but it helps only so much.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Which is where StartAllBack comes into play. Its not just one sluggish mess. It feels normal lol.
shalafi@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I have zero issues with Win11, but if I state that, lemmy tells me to go fuck myself.
ernest314@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
well in general it’s just not really a helpful thing to say… imagine your car won’t start and a bunch of other people say “I have zero issues with mine”
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Well, get on with it.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
For real, lmao.