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Microsoft finally admits almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mech@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-finally-admits-almost-all-major-windows-11-core-features-are-broken/

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It sounds like you can just log out and back in to fix it? For a local system, the article says it only occurs for “First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied.”

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    • mech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m administering >300 virtual desktops running Windows 11.
      Imagine what my phone would sound like if I pushed this update.

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      • dan@upvote.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Just net send everyone a message saying that if they have issues, they need to reboot.

        (is net send still a thing?)

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    • Sims@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ‘Party pooper’ ;-)

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      • baronvonj@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • greenbelt@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft has government and cooperate costumers that will keep paying them for decades. Why care? If MSword still works, people will buy it.

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    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Except they’re slowly being ditched for Linux. LibreOffice can do most things MSOffice can. One thing it cannot do is “cooperative work online, in an Office365 document”, which might force governments to develop their own solutions instead of letting users hide other people’s fields, then waste my work time on duckduckgoing all the newly discovered cell hiding methods, because some other institute’s office workers thought it was useful to them, but forget to unhide them every time.

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      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ll take it one step further and say that if you absolutely must use Office, O365 works in a browser on any operating system. You literally don’t need Windows anymore for that.

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  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is why I have always waited for the version that is just like the previous ones, but fixed. 3.11, 98SE, XP SP2, 7, 10…

    I need to get a new computer, and it has to have windows, but I’m not getting freaking Win11. Gimme Win12.

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    • mech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hate to break it to you but those days are over.
      From what we know so far, Win 12 will go all in on AI, cloud and a subscription model.

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      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My prediction is that they’ll go full SaaS and make the non-pro version “free”, with a whole raft of features “cloud only” behind a Azure/O365 subscription.

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      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That system fell apart when they showed they could not count to 9. 10 Should have been 9, and it was mid at best.

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  • atmorous@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Really hoping Microsoft fails for everything ezcept Xbox. Then Xbox team takes over and then turns the company into a private non-stock unionized one

    Would love to see what an Xbox-lead Microsoft can do with it reformed

    What are Microsofts most moneymaking fields aboce Xbox? Are they getting eroded at all?

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    • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Xbox feels like the biggest one being eroded rn… i don’t think what Xbox is doing is any good nor would it help the main business

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    • Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Azure is the cloud backbone of many businesses and services, so if Windows went away, MS would still have their fingers in a number of pies.

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      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve previously predicted that Microsoft would slowly divest of Windows thanks to declining desktop/laptop markets and eventually as a cost saving measure cut over to just making a Linux distro with their own proprietary DE.

        As it is if the rumors are true that they’re destroying their codebase with AI coding they’ll have quite the job ahead of them to clean it all up once the AI bubble pops. They’d have two easier options essentially at that point: either roll back 2-6 years in their codebase and rebuild every update and change that they wanted to keep or rewrite from scratch (which they’d basically be looking at in order to clean up the AI mess) I could very much see a future where Microsoft looks at that gargantuan job and says “ehh let’s just use someone else’s work” and shifts to a Linux of BSD kernel

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hate to break it to you but Xbox is pretty much the bottom rung of Microsoft in terms of profit.

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Xbox OG was good, everything since then has been garbage. The UI just makes me want to vomit and reminds me of windows 8.

      Forget them too. I’m all full steam ahead on SteamOS.

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  • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft finally admits almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken

    FTFY

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    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Windows 11 are broken

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      • FahrenheitGhost@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All your brokens are belong to us.

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      • DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        LanguageTool agrees that this sentence presents correct grammar.

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    • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well, it does boot most of the time. So it’s not completely broken, just majorly broken…

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      • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What it boots into is broken.

        The more it works, the more it’s broken.

        It’s broken that much, at such a deep level.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Last month they broke audio drivers, so USB connected speakers were not being recognised unless they had third-party drivers. The native windows drivers just stopped recognising them as audio devices, and just listed them as Unknown Device.

        Windows could see them, it had no idea what they were, or what to do with them. So you had no audio.

        The only solution was to continuously restart until eventually it randomly worked.

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  • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So they’ve taken a leaf out of KDE’s development book.

    Is windows11 Microsoft’s KDE4 moment?

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    • ne0phyte@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I feel like Windows 11 is just another Microsoft “Windows moment”.

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    • NeilBru@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What’s your preferred DE?

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      • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Does it have to be a DE?

        Preferred WM is Xmonad (with my tabular boonad config, the grandpa version).

        But much love also for herbstluftwm.

        And dwm, openbox, icewm, i3, and others.

        I have all these window managers in my wmrotate scripts in my wminizer script, so I can kill one and move to the next, without losing all running gui programs, keeping my X11 session going.

        But if it has to be strictly DE…

        I guess LXDE’s still my fave.

        Respect to XFCE and Trinity too. And Mate.

        KDE’s awesome. Big love to it again, after it got settled in after the KDE4 debacle.

        LXQt’s fine too (though I prefer LXDE).

        I’ve not tried Cosmic.

        I dont know my way around cinnamon and the various other similar. Only briefly experienced.

        GNOME have utterly lost the plot.

        Why’d you ask?

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.

    Cries in supporting multi-user AVD Hosts

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  • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That Win10 extended update program is great if you need it fyi

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Massgrave + Win10 IOT LTSC enterprise would be a better play

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Isn’t that exactly what the person you replied to is talking about?

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  • sparky@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As an Apple shareholder, I’d just like to thank Microsoft for their outstanding contribution to selling more Macs.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve still got a year of updates on my Verizon of 10. I’m going to use them.

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    • Tinidril@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I finally went 100% Linux and I’m never going back.

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      • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I use Linux on everything except my gaming rig… There are games that I like that only run on windows. As soon as that’s handled I’ll make the switch on they machine too.

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  • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s nice of them to admit it, but saying Windows is broken is a bit like saying water is wet

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Geez, talk about spreading FUD 🙄

    This will occur for the following:

    • First time user logon after a cumulative update was applied.

    So it happens once, after this update was applied. Jesus christ the level of fake outrage and exaggeration is insane and should be studied.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you are wondering, provisioning essentially is the way admins configure devices as they automatically deploy various settings and policies on a client PC.

      This is a thing us sysadmins should be aware of. And that’s the end of the fucking story.

      Lemmy, through gritted teeth, “NAOWW! Your Windows install SUCKS!”

      “Mine doesn’t have any of the issues I read about on lemmy.”

      GET. BENT.

      No lie. Every time I’ve merely mentioned that I’m not having the issues we’re raging about, downvoted, not one single reply.

      Then they’ll hop over to other groups to trash on various Linux distros, “how do I get my video working?”, “why is this a total clusterfuck?”, and so on.

      Same people who talked me into switching to Firefox. What a fucking mess. I was on Edge the other day thinking, “Wow, internet is working exceptionally well today! Oh, forgot to switch back to the superior browser.”

      And these same people tell me several times a day to switch to Linux. Been there, done that, many times over the last 20-years. Headless Linux for servers? Only way to fly. Desktop? “Well, you can’t use all your peripherals, and you’ll have to use janky versions of the software you’re used to, but it’s better!”

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      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Aw someone’s a wittle bit cwanky 🥺

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      • Statick@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re sysadmin that has issues with Firefox… What?

        This has to be a ragebait account.

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Didn’t windows 11 become available long ago? Did not one ever try it out before the hostage situation?

    Certainly not the beta testers

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean they pretty famously laid off the majority of their QA teams around the time of the Windows 10 rollout

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    • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Maybe all the dependable beta testers who would report bugs had already left to Linux or BSD.

      Or like the other commenter replied here suggests,

      Maybe dependable beta testers who would report bugs had too steep a workload they gave up and moved to Linux or BSD.

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    • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I tried it for a couple of months when it first came out. At that early point it wasn’t too bad for usability. But, after a decent look around it, I wiped it and went back to Linux on my laptop.

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  • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The real fix is switching to Linux if possible.

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  • oliver@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Guess what! 😱😂

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