Odd way to learn altman is gay.
Kinda shocked I’ve never seen a “worlds richest gay man!” Headline. That feels like low hanging fru-
Sam Altman and husband reportedly working to genetically engineer babies from having hereditary disease
Submitted 2 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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nagaram@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Does Thiel not have more money?
mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thiel killed the outlet that outed him.
nagaram@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Another one I didn’t know is gay.
Props to msm for not making it a big deal
Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Gay is only bad if the poors do it, of course /s
mcv@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Honestly I don’t think it’s any of our business. Even rich assholes are allowed to have a private life. Although with some (Musk, Trump) that private life is so fucked up it’s impossible to ignore, but generally I’m totally fine with not knowing who they fuck.
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I worry more about that he is a full blown psycho.
KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The ability to reduce diseases and disorders in newborns sounds wonderful, until you find out which techno-fascist is behind the movement.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
The other issue I have is that this is an example of a recurring issue in which the tech obsessed ultra wealthy declare their plan to solve a problem for which a very straightforward policy solution already exists.
We don’t need tech to extend lives or feed the hungry. We just need to remove the paywalls to existing resources.
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Yeah, here’s an easy way to prevent most birth defects:
Free nutritious food
Regulating toxic chemicals
Prenatal education and healthcare
deathbird@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Oh come on.
This guy couldn’t even get a train to run on time.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I mean, the original flavor didn’t either
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Not for a lack of trying
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
the headline misspelled eugenics.
chunes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ah yes, pleas give me more of that sickle cell anemia pls.
Avicenna@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
In before this turns into “I want my baby to have blue eyes and 150”
poopkins@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s an interesting ethical debate.
I have a hereditary condition which passes only by the X chromosome, so should I, as a man, abort a daughter? Because now the risk is too high and I’ve elected to simply not have children. It would be great if I could fix the single swapped base pair that would otherwise cause disfigurement and life-long health problems.
KatakiY@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah I’m always conflicted. Like eugenics is the end goal for these fascists but also… We should try to prevent hereditary defects rtct
Avicenna@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
This is why billionaires should be kept away from sciences and tech but unfortunately they are all over it. The fact that these require lot of funding does not help.
eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
High IQ would be sure nice, but has a large number of genes involved. Not that you need a high IQ as a farmer in a low technology future.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Since when are IQ scores indicative of intelligence?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
so all Lemmy takes from this article is that Sam Altman is gay.
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Tim Cook, Sam Altman, Peter Thiel.
We have enough data points to suggest that being gay doesn’t insulate you from being greedy and corrupt.
That’s important, too.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Gay people are just as shitty as everyone else. They’re no better or no worse. They just have sex with people of the same gender.
Who you want to fuck REALLY doesn’t matter, like, at all, imo, in the grand scheme of things.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
We have a code of conduct training at work that includes and anti corruption segment (nothing weird, just stuff like “a vendor buying lunch at a sales meeting is fine, but no gifts or having lunch at extremely expensive places”, and “some places give small symbolic gifts around holidays, usually a pastry. That’s fine. Do not accept a $500 pastry”)
A couple years ago they updated the module and the person engaging in non-obvious corrupt business practices became gay in passing. The overwhelming response by a lot of the company was “yay! We made it guys! They realized that we like bribes too! I feel so seen”.
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Why would it? I have never thought to myself, this seems like a bad person but he is gay so maybe not. :)
sausager@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hey don’t leave Trump out of this! He’s at least bi.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
I thought this was a commonly known fact. He wasn’t hiding it.
Darkness343@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am surprised the American government is even backing them.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
They do realize that this is how most zombie apocalypse movies start. Genetic tapering to stop diseases.
Soulg@ani.social 2 weeks ago
Yeah that’s fiction for a reason
4am@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I mean the zombie part, sure.
Do you really think in the hands of Silicon Valley techbros this ain’t gonna get ugly?
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I’m not sure I get the universal negativity to this. Like sure, Altman sucks as a person, and an individual having enough money to significantly bankroll research like this is a sign of an economic failure, but surely curing or preventing genetic disease is just about the most uncontroversial use human genetic modification could have?
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
He’s a bad person and he’s always lying.
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’ll only be available for the super rich, will expand to other augmentations/engineering, and will result in further reinforcing social mobility boundaries.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
The response to something beneficial being only available to the rich shouldn’t be to avoid developing that thing, it should be to make it available to everyone. The failures of the US healthcare and economic systems don’t suddenly make developing new medical techniques a bad thing. Human augmentation is another issue from curing genetic disease, though I’d personally argue that wouldn’t be a bad cause either, with the same caveat about it availability. It at least has more potential to improve somebody’s life somewhere down the line than just buying a yacht with his ill gotten gains or some other useless rich person toy would.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, Elysium.
qweertz@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
“What’s bad with eugenics for the rich?”
scarabic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Because the US health care system already serves the wealthy and abandons the poor, any expensive treatments are seen as just further steps into a Gattaca future of even more dystopian disparity, especially when driven by a rich asshole personally.
Universal negativity is also kind of the norm around here. A lot of folks on Lemmy believe we are slaves sucking Satan’s cock for breakfast, and anything that isn’t a complete burn down of our system and way of life is a negative.
Dojan@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Bruh. I wish I was sucking Satan’s cock for breakfast. That at least implies some kind of reward coming down the line.
mech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
There’s nothing uncontroversial about human genetic modification.
It’s a pandora’s box that just shouldn’t be opened.merde@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
There’s nothing uncontroversial about human genetic modification.
It’s a pandora’s box that just shouldn’t be opened.writes the person who isn’t suffering because of a genetic disorder or met anybody suffering from a genetic disorder
AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Right. Currently the ways we avoid genetic disease are screening partners, screening IVF embryos, and in utero testing + abortion.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is that his motivation though? Wanna make a bet that this does or doesn’t end as he says at face value?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Please review the glimpse into our future titled “Gattaca” to see why people might be concerned.
freeman@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It’s fiction.
You can find actual discrimination based on genetics or wealth or class into the present and past of the real world.
jonathan7luke@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This isn’t really an answer to the ‘universal negativity’, but for a somewhat reasonable analysis of the pros and (surprisingly high number of) cons as well as some interesting grey areas, there’s an old LWT episode on this topic: youtu.be/AJm8PeWkiEU
FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The same guy who admitted he couldn’t raise his child without ChatGPT btw.
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is a very good reminder - thank you.
ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
This really reminds me of “Brave New World”, kind of scary actually.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And everyone already has the ability to pick their Soma
hash@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Shit, thanks for reminding me I’m scrolling instead of reading the copy in my bag.
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Wait, this guy’s gay?
TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Neoliberal utopia. The wealthy elite destroying the world and forcing eugenics on the masses fly a rainbow flag
1984@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Its working.
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It’s almost as if the forces of good and evil don’t abide by the line we draw in the sand, for some reason.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
So we’re skipping the Bell Riots and straight into Eugenics War?
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Give me Butlerian jihad or give me death!
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
No thank you, I like Computers
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Anytime any non scientist wants to genetically engineer babies you should get very worried
When crypto or ai bros want to do that get outright scared
probable_possum@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Engineer some humans who can survive in zero gravity without peeing out their bone minerals. Humans who can survive hard radiation in space without having their cells crippled from destroyed DNA.
Maybe start with simple organisms. Like algae. :)
makyo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d just like to have to trim my nails less frequently
merde@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’d just like to have to trim my nails less frequently
i used to think like you, then i started (ab)using my hands for activities that wear them out. Now i’m glad that they’re growing sufficiently fast to replace/renew
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dude. How fast are your fingernails growing that it’s a problem?
_Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
ah, ok, so GATTACA is up next. got it.
BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I'm actually pro genetic engineering for this usecase. By expanding our medicine, we created an evolutionary problem: Carriers of genetic diseases keep passing their genes, passing the defects further. This will result in more and more health issues unless faulty genes themselves are fixed
Zier@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
If it works as good as AI, people will be chronic liars, have multiple fingers, and be annoying attention whores always asking if they can "help" you.
verdi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
This is the usual front to further develop “designer baby” tech (which we already have, it’s just the use is considered unethical). Mask investment as “saving the children” and altruistic to later flip the tech to billionaire friends so they can make little aryans on a d5 roll for a an AC of 1… Much like the open that turned for profit…
goatinspace@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Oh hell no, don’t bring Jurassic Park to the real world, please.
(JP did this with dinos, but this is the exact thing that franchise warned about)
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
I feel like this kind of thing can create a “Great Filter” kind of situation. Tech works great and most humans are genetically engineered now, but wait, why is everyone off before 30? Nope, it’s not the genetic engineering, and anyone who says that is a tinfoil hat wearer. Ok, actually, the data is in and it is the genetic engineering, but it made a bunch of billionaires even richer, so all good, right?
gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 weeks ago
If (and is a really, really big if) this open the door to a better understanding of this type of pathologies and a way to somewhat cure them, I would say that it would be for the better.
But of course I am sure it will not end this way…
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
This guy can.
You know, everybody makes a idiot of himself as best as he can, and this guy can.
harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
This is how I find out that he’s gay?
Well, good for him and his partner.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Wait a tic. I’ve seen this movie.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Know what? Fair. Good for them.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Suspiciously all blonde haired and blue eyed. All with reduced intelligence unless you pay a lifelong subscription.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds like he’s trying to create his own Musk-esq mythos.
jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
What baby? How? I’m very confused right now.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
TIL Sam is gay
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
further proof their homophobia is performative to have the peasants infighting about trans people they probably never met in their life.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The trans people they never knew they met.
Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure he and others like him are not gay; If they want to engineer babies, it’s for a reason…