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There was no need to ever improve upon THIS

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Submitted ⁨⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Mickey7@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Por que no los dos?

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  • Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve got an old car and it’s still like this. I don’t look forward to the day I have to get a new car.

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    • Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yeah like, all I wish my car had was Bluetooth capabilities but besides that I love my older car.

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    • bytesonbike@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We had to buy a new (used 2022) car after we ran out old car into the ground. The touch screen controls temperatures. There wasn’t a single variant of the car that didn’t have a giant ass touch screen. It makes me really uncomfortable when the screen no longer works.

      There’s also some other things that piss me off.

      But Some of the pros (and why we accepted that trade off):

      • all wheel drive
      • fancy sensors when someone is in my blindside
      • it opens when it senses the key is nearby.
      • heated seats with controls. (Used to bring hot packs because it gets cold here)
      • cameras for the rear
      • it does that cool thing where it breaks if it senses you might collide. I hated it at first but I’m old now and it saved me once from collision.

      Either way, fuck cars and if public transportation was better here, id use that.

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      • smeenz@lemmy.nz ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        I would be really uncomfortable with a car where I had to touch a giant’s ass to make it go.

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  • percent@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don’t have to keep adjusting it.

    Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      My new car is a 2025 model, but it’s an Indian made Japanese Kei car and it has large, infinitely spinning knobs for temperature and fan strength, and a digital temperature readout. I really like them.

      When the temp was cold in the morning but now it’s hot, I spin those dials like wheel of fortune to the left and immediately set the AC to cold and fast. No repeated button presses.

      The only downside is that it doesn’t have one of those knobs for music volume.

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  • passepartout@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The next thing will be: I can’t toggle my AC because AWS is down.

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    • expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      your seats overheat and get stuck in the most forward position

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    • Hubi@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re lucky if it lets you start the car.

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      • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you? I think I would rather a car that doesn’t start than a car that doesn’t have breaks

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    • grte@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or perhaps, I can’t toggle my AC because I forgot to pay my subscription fee.

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    • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Instructions unclear: AWS is doing fine, but my AC won’t shut off until I renew my BMW+ subscription.

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    • sasquatch7704@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You are joking, but I’m pretty sure a few cars could not start or got bricked because AWS went down.

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    • Gerudo@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You joke, but I literally came across this. I HATE that I had to connect my window unit to the net, but we have a lot of brownouts in the area, and it allows me to restart the AC if I’m away, or else my pups would cook during the summer if it didn’t turn on. The AWS outage hit, and I couldn’t log in to the app that controls it to turn it on. Luckily, it’s not peak summer and it didn’t get too warm by the time I got home.

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      • rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If the brownouts don’t last long, you could maybe solve this issue with a moderately priced UPS to keep the AC unit from powering off during the brief moments when power goes out.

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    • bigFab@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Luckily for me, I don’t even know what ‘AWS’ means.

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      • Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Amazon Web Services, are huge data centers that many companies rent to run their services.

        The other day one of those AWS data center had issues and many services didn’t work, also because of this many heated beds stopped working properly and over-heated.

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Everything after THIS was a mistake. Image 1985 Nissan 300ZX

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    • PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh, that was my first car. Sometimes, the display changed to something weird though, like this: Image

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    • DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      One of my best good mates in school had an 84 200 that we dubbed Tron cause of this awesome setup. Great share, thanks!

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    • Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So fucking cool.

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  • mlg@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

    Only missing a night picture with the red LED backlight on

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    • IMALlama@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Agree with the addition of a low and high setting. I don’t care what the target cabin temp is, if I just got into my car after braving some crazy wind chill I want to be air fried for a bit.

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    achkually your title is wrong because it was never improved upon.

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  • warm@kbin.earth ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.

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    • titanicx@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Cloudyelling.gif

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  • fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s really interesting that I agree with you, but so many people insist that they’re new and fancy tools are somehow making their lives significantly better. And obviously it’s an opinion question, it’s not like they’re lying, but I just don’t see the value that many of them do.

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    • blarth@thelemmy.club ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      My car has climate control. I set it to 72 degrees once a long time ago and rarely have touched it since.

      The fascination with dumb controls in a car is odd to me. It seems like people overshoot the “I want physical controls I can feel my way around without looking” and get into “give me the Flintstones car” lately.

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  • Paddzr@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Honestly. I prefer my current EVs AC. I have set it to 2q degrees when I first got it and I haven’t touched it since.

    I don’t like “more cold” or “more hot” dials. I know what I like, 21 degrees and if the car can keep exactly that? I’m happy.

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    • PillowTalk420@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      One of my older minivans had a digital thermostat and it was just about the only digital control in a car I can tolerate.

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  • moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. That’s was the holy grail of temperature control.

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    • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’d add being able to set a different temperature for the driver and passenger. It’s a godsend for relationships.

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      • TWeaK@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Some cars even have a separate zone for the rear. However I’ve only seen that on touch screen models, so they can suck a dick.

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    • Macallan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hard agree. I came to say the exact same thing.

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  • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn’t go full blast at the beginning, it’s amazing.

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    • bigFab@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.

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      • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So, even better argument for auto climate control. Set it once when you first get in your car and are still parked, then leave it. However, yes buttons please. If this meme is about buttons vs touch screen, then I strongly agree with the meme. My vehicle not only has the auto climate, but also it is using buttons. They’re stupid capacitive touch buttons that Hyundai has since switched back away from, but at least they’re always in the same spot and I don’t have to change any screens to access them.

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  • TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d argue split climate for the driver and passenger seat is the only important missing innovation.

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    • mearce@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That and the ability to set a temperature that is then automatically maintained.

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    • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just point the vents fancyman

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      • mearce@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I somewhat regularly drive 9+ hours and split controls are not really comparable to just pointing the vents. If I am the driver, I need cool air blowing at me to keep me awake and alert. No longer having to compromise with passengers has been a pretty big improvement for a drive that long.

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    • herrvogel@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      3 zone a/c is also pretty nice. No more “it’s too <exact opposite of what the driver is feeling>” whining from the back.

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      • TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        True, but in my experience that’s on a separate console in the back seat.

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  • rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except backup cameras. Everything else is bad

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    • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Backup cameras are cool but they’ll never stay backup cameras. Give manufacturers that screen, and we’ll, if you have it, you’ve gotta use it

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      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Screens aren’t the problem, touchscreens are the problem. I have a screen but no touchscreen. Works great.

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        One time I rented a uhaul van and it had a backup camera that would show up in the rear view mirror. Not the whole thing mirror, but it had a little screen embedded in it.

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  • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I ling for the days it was two horizontal sliders. Cold to left, slide to the right the warmer you wanted. Low to the left, slight to the right for high fan. Now it’s all this digital horse shit and it takes years of me being bored at red lights to be motivated to explore all the menu drudgery on the console. Now it all has fucking wifi and tracker nonsense too.

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  • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is a decade or two past the true ideal. Not pictured: the 5-inch sliding control that mechanically adjusted between recirculated and exterior air and the drivers and passengers pull-knob by the feet that let exterior air flow in directly. A heavenly touring experience.Image

    Also on the one pictured in your post, I find those lit press to toggle ac and def buttons with indicator lights wore out over time and required a ton of force to switch on the cars I’ve had with them.

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    • Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spot the roach

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    • Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ironically, my 2018 Subaru is more mechanical than this. 2/3 dials are mechanical, cable-driven flaps / valve for heat and vent control. Only the fan is an electric dial.

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Meanwhile in 91:
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    • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I still remember the lever that you described

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  • Pringles@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My honda civic has this perfectly balanced (this is a stock photo): Image

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    • tjhrulz@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I will say as someone who lives in a cold climate, but that typically likes cooler warm air. It would be nice to sometimes be able to set how cold the air is coming out of the vents and not the temperature I want the cabin to be. But other than that, yeah I think my Honda Civic handles this pretty well as well

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  • JustAPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    One of my knobs broke and to this day, I can’t work out how to replace it. Where do you even buy them from??? 🙃

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    • IMALlama@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Used parts! Junkyards, eBay, whatever. Odds are you’ll be able to find a replacement unless the factory knob was super fragile or your vehicle is exceedingly rare.

      If your vehicle is vaguely popular it’ll probably have a stl (think exported 3D shape) available. In that case I’ll print/mail you one assuming you’re in the US. If you’re not in the US hop over to !3DPrinting@lemmy.world and I’m sure someone will help you out.

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    • RattlerSix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Amazon, parts store, junkyard, find someone to 3D print one for you

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  • SethTaylor@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wrong. This has no ads. How will I become a tech billionaire if I can’t disable your breaks until you watch my ad?

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  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So long as the vents have analog dials that manipulate how much air is coming out. Otherwise I’d have to be pro left/right temperature difference. When it’s 100 degrees out side and someone says the AC is to cold it blows my mind

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  • Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How fast do you want it, how hot do you want it, where do you want it

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  • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I want to set my hvac to a temp and let it sort out whether it should heat or cool.

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Was it?

    I love auto settings, it means much less fiddling/interaction.

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  • Mobiletuck@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have that heater/AC unit

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  • TWeaK@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hard disagree. Physical buttons with a digital temperature and split controls for left and right (and maybe rear as well). Automatic climate control that also does the fans. I had all of this on a car in 2010, and it was perfect - I could just leave the temperature set at what I wanted all the time, and the fans would blow hard if it needed to heat or cool significantly to get there.

    Some manufacturer’s, eg Volvo, don’t automatically adjust the fans, which is wank. But nothing is as wank as touch screen controls - I fucking hate it when you’re trying to aim at a button, then as you go in to press the car bumps and you completely miss.

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  • bstix@feddit.dk ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    However you probably don’t miss the manual choke valve, double clutching, hand winded starter crank, or even window cranks.

    There was really no golden period of car controls. It went fluidly from one kind of shit to another kind of shit.

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  • TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wish more companies did this.

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    The larger temperature controls and the vertically, slightly curved stack make so much sense to me.

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  • IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Heated and cooling seats…

    Split zones

    Heated steering wheels

    And so much more…

    I swear the Luddite whining about car tech never ends…

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  • RejZoR@lemmy.ml ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I still have this. I can adjust all of it without ever looking at knobs while driving. Good luck doing that with touch bs.

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  • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    First gen tundra controls really are excellent. They and used mechanical linkages for the diverter and for the hot/cold control. The only problem is the knobs get loose over time and can break or fall off when you accellerate.

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