Can anyone give recommendations on what to do if you have to run Autodesk products (Revit. Autocad) for work? No, I can’t swap them for open source alternatives such as FreeCAD as Im working with large international projects. Should I dual boot? Virtual machine inside Linux?
As Microsoft Forces Users to Ditch Windows 10, It Announces That It’s Also Turning Windows 11 into an AI-Controlled Monstrosity
Submitted 5 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-windows-11-ai-controlled
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TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
EddoWagt@feddit.nl 5 months ago
I feel most replies have never used those products and are recommending options which just don’t work well enough imo. I have a VM for Fusion 360, but it’s really not fast enough for day to day use. Things like wine just don’t work. You’re gonna have to suck it up and either dual boot, or run a VM with GPU passthrough to get hardware acceleration in your VM.
Maybe you can split your GPU for a VM but I haven’t figured that out yet
bytesonbike@discuss.online 5 months ago
Controversial take:
If Autodesk products is how you make your money - Just use the OS your work provides you. Unless you’re a freelancer, of which that’s your work computer, and lock everything else down.
Work computer is not my problem. Nor am I putting anything personal on there. Microsoft wants to mine my company’s info, let those two deal with that shit.
TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thanks. I am a freelancer but I depend on the platforms my clients work with.
fxleak@lemmings.world 5 months ago
Honestly, you are going to continue to suffer for becoming reliant on corporations.
The solution was not to get in bed with them in the first place. It’s not easy, but it is correct.
TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Haha Ok let me send a memo to the whole global architecture community and ask them to switch to something different
gian@lemmy.grys.it 5 months ago
Dual boot is an option, but I would go with 2 machines, one with Windows with only the Autodesk products and the other with Linux and all the other software.
TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was thinking this too. Might get a second desktop and set that up
Nugscree@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Winboat, for when you absolutely have to use something Windows based on your Linux machine.
chat_mots@jlai.lu 5 months ago
If you must use windows but hate using it, have a vm inside linux dockur/windows: Windows inside a Docker container.. But it is not the smoothest windows experience (it really is for backup when you really need windows): it is not as fast as directly booted windows, apps that can’t run in a vm won’t run here. If this does not work for you, then dual boot or just use windows if necessary!
The first option fits me well fyi :)
kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
In order of priority:
- Check for a Linux-compatible alternative
- Try installing/running it via Bottles (a veeeery easy to use Wine frontend, hiding lots of wine complexity). Wine allows running most windows programs directly on Linux, with almost zero performance overhead.
- Try installing/running it via winboat (basically WSL in reverse - a well-integrated Windows VM or container running on Linux so you can run pesky Windows-only programs with it) (haven’t used it myself yet)
- Use a regular full Windows VM on Linux (likely less well integrated and more resource intensive than #3, but maybe even more compatible). Set up a shared folder between host and VM for easy file transfers.
- Dual-boot Windows from another disk. Set up a shared folder/partition for file transfers.
mika_mika@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Linux good. AI slop bad. Reddit bad. Fediverse good. Star Trek good. Tankies bad.
Good morning, just waking up and I’m sorry for taking out how tired I am of the repetitiveness of this platform sometimes on you.
Yes you should dual boot, but to like 95% of people it doesn’t matter so maybe just running windows won’t be the living hell this place makes it out to be.
I don’t know why there isn’t a bigger lemmy circlejerk community it would be full of gold. I need to stop sorting by everything and join more smaller communities I guess.
jellygoose@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
stfu dingdong
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I mean, switching to Linux was nice even from win 10 that doesn’t even have a bunch of the BS from win 11. Using windows already sucks and has for a while.
And why are you posting about what 95% of people care about? The people posting here about it care. Do you walk up to random people on the street to tell them most people don’t care about what they are talking about?
Plus this commenter was even specifically asking for advice about how to get away from windows, so you’re whining about a common circle jerk in a thread that isn’t even that circle jerk.
Bosht@lemmy.world 5 months ago
For the gamers here using Linux: what about Discord? One of my only social outlets currently is unfortunately through Discord with some friends. There any issues with drivers for headsets and/or Discord having issues?
TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Discord has a version for Linux. I use it, and it’s pretty much the same experience as in winblows.
Sabata11792@ani.social 5 months ago
Sometimes screen sharing my desktop/games crashes discord or it just doesn’t work. Not a big deal and works 70% of the time.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 months ago
When I have to use discord, I use it in the browser. I don’t trust the app not to get up to no good.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The app is just a browser wrapper over the web app.
fxleak@lemmings.world 5 months ago
Discord is a horrible product and we should be steering people away from it and towards a federated alternative like Matrix.
That said, it works fine on Linux. The only issue is that updating it requires editing a text file because the incompetent cunts at the company can’t be arsed to develop their product properly.
ohlaph@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Mateix eh? Go on…
gian@lemmy.grys.it 5 months ago
Well, Discord is available on Linux, Archlinux for example has the package and I suppose this is true for many other distros.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 months ago
I use discord via browser on my Linux.
d3lta19@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I use discord flatpak and it works flawlessly
chat_mots@jlai.lu 5 months ago
I have some issues making screenshares with the native app. But the browser version works flawlessly.
iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I had the same problem, but it turned put to be Wayland support, which is now fixed.
voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Have had absolutely 0 issues with the official discord linux desktop app for a couple years now. Works just the same as windows
chris@l.roofo.cc 5 months ago
Discord has an official client for Linux. Also it works well in a Browser. I use it regularly without issues.
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Discord works absolutely fine in Linux. I use “Vesktop” which is a desktop client for Discord. Performance is identical to using the Discord app in Windows AFAIK.
webdox@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Posting from a 13 year old Windows 7 64 bit gaming desktop. Come get me Gates…
fxleak@lemmings.world 5 months ago
Isn’t that a massive security risk?
incompetent@programming.dev 5 months ago
Yes.
Lee@retrolemmy.com 5 months ago
Do you play any games with kernel anti cheat? I assumed a lot of anti cheat systems would have dropped support for win 7 by now. I stayed on win 7 as long as I could (I had non gaming compatibility issues). I feel like it was peak windows. Had they put the win 10 performance improvements in to win 7, it would have been perfection.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I’m trying out Bazzite, and although it does take a little tweaking sometimes, I haven’t encountered a game I can’t run yet.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
But nearly no multiplayer will work (due to stupid anti-cheat) Which is a very large base of the gamers who can never switch, even if they’d want to.
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Almost all multiplayer games work even with anti-cheat. The once that do not use kernel level root kits for anti cheat. Vanguard is even worse then a normal root kit as it forces it self to be loaded with the OS.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Have you tried out Steam on there? I don’t know if there are any workarounds to running Steam games that require Windows; otherwise I’d probably switch one of my last Windows machines over.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Steam is absolitely the EASIEST way to run games on Linux.
It abstracts Wine, Proton and all the other dependencies so you don’t have to think about it much.
You just install it, download and play exactly the same as you would on Windows.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Yes Steam is the main tool Im using to run games, even non-Steam games.
Bazzite also comes with Lutris which will set up some wine wrappers for you, which work fine, but Steam gives you things like Steam Input. I’ve never seen a controller mapper as good as Steam Input.
I don’t know what the performance comparison between Valve’s Proton and current FOSS variants of Wine is.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Steam is honestly your best shot for getting a game to run, they’ve worked pretty hard on their compatibility layer.
FourThirteen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ve been on Debian for a couple years since Windows 10 came out. Not sure what this fuss has been about, but I’m glad I switched when I did.
incompetent@programming.dev 5 months ago
Not sure what this fuss has been about, but I’m glad I switched when I did.
The fuss is about those who haven’t switched yet. They’re being forced to swallow a big, fat AI pill.
Surp@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I just play games on my home computer so windows 11 is whatever to me
Sunflier@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They are shoving AI down our throats.
mika_mika@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Because it makes them a lot of potential money. This has been going on since business as old as radioshack logged phone numbers initially to the dismay of the consumer, and whatever the fuck probably bothered people about capitalist practices and privacy before that. I will never understand the hate boner for AI because I rarely if ever encounter it and if I do it’s backend like the thousands of learned algorithms before it. I think AI might actually be revolutionary the way lemmy acts like it impacts their day to day lives.
llama@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
What is this AI everywhere concept actually supposed to accomplish for the end user? Maybe I’m just behind on the vision but I can’t grasp the point. I have a feeling it’s not really about what the users want but I’d love to here a genuinely good use case.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 months ago
It’s to make it easier for the end user to do what they want to. People are best at communicating by talking and writing, so having the ability to get things done using natural language is kinda the holy grail.
Being able to summarise/edit/create documents/images/videos, automate tasks, change settings, etc by a simple conversation is an end user dream.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This is what people are currently doing right? people are not writing mails anymore, this just became too time consuming.
At the same time this may be the limit of the current AI models. Me wanting to configure something on my computer that can be Googled and the AI does this for me on verbal prompt is kind of stupid but people are stupid.
The real danger with this is total surveillance of your activity and possibly making you and your office job obsolete. At least they are attempting this.
emmy67@lemmy.world 5 months ago
How many misunderstandings happen because people are bad at both writing and talking?
The answer is, a great deal.
Your answer is nonsense.
There is no real use case for the user. There are only use cases for the company.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
They’ve invested lots of money in AI systems and found out that people do not want to use them, so if they make them unavoidable and force people to use it.
Capitalism does that sometimes.
Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Like google plus.
For me the Apple environment really cemented for me that consumers actively enjoy removing their own autonomy structurally, which is a big part of why this stuff has become so normalized.
Putting a rootkit on their cds should have buried sony. Antitrust should be a thing too. The mickey mouse protection act should have socially killed Disney, which only found success by exploiting works that no longer held copyright. Etc.
Those with power have lost all accountability, and all tools, especially AI, will be used against us if we do not cooperatively figure out how to fix the increasing power imbalance.
The more power someone has, the harder the gavel should fall on them when they fuck the entire planet in whichever way.
At this point, any new consumer friendly behaviour comes only to establish territory before hoarding and exploiting when enabled to do so.
Amazon using deceptive design to influence general user behaviours should lead to billions and billions in fines until changed. Etc.
Build local movements to cooperate at larger scale and fight back. If the general public is ranting about planned obsolescence and general monopolistic behaviours, maybe something could be affected before people are forced into violent desperation. People are too busy being mad at each other for some intentionally divisive narrative or another, and the general public just can’t give a fuck about affecting the people who actually dictate the shape of society.
Also if you burn down all AI this is still true. But it’s easier to yell at technology than they system using it to further remove your autonomy.
Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 months ago
it’s like having 10 walmarts in one town. they are selling their investors infinite growth by showing a huge uptick in users through unavoidable systems being piled on. like how retail used to sell their investors on square footage going up every year by X amount. it gooses the stock and it doesn’t matter than your losing money or destroying your business doing it, because the stocks going up RIGHT NOW is the only goal.
CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I finally troubleshooted why my Linux usb boot drive wasn’t working. Planning on making the switch when I have time off work.
So long as I can get Steam and Jellyfin working, I’ll never switch back.
placatedmayhem@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Bazzite was the distro that got me to kill the Windows 10 install on my gaming machine. Steam Deck catalyzed the move, but Bazzite was the final piece. Steam comes pre-baked in Bazzite, as does your graphics drives, and some multi-store frontends (I forget which atm), and some other quality of life bits. And Jellyfin Media Player is on Flathub, so installs easily via Flatpak.
Mertn33@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Jellyfin works well on linux.
Johnny101@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Don’t downgrade to Windows 11, update to Linux
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 5 months ago
Did it last month. Just open your mind like a flower in the morning, and it will only hurt a little.
Aunt_Iffa@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
I hate this world. Linux it is then.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Called it
Mobiletuck@lemmy.world 5 months ago
yeah, I updated one machine that was running Win10, it’s now running LinuxMint
Phegan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I moved to pop!_os on the 14th and I am not looking back
Zacryon@feddit.org 5 months ago
The logic behind the voice controls sounds pretty questionable, but it’s supposedly backed by data showing that users spend billions of minutes talking in Microsoft Team meetings, according to Mehdi — so they’re already used to talking on the computer, right?
Do they really reason like this? Oh my. That’s stupid. And here I was thinking Microsoft employs clever people.
julysfire@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Linux is the only viable solution to this mess. And no it is not as scary as it seema
NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
For now, the Copilot features will be technically opt-in, but it’s more than possible that this will change in the future.
As much as i dislike some Windows 11 elements, let’s stick to facts. The headline make it seem way worse than it actually is, although still not good at all.
Jhex@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Microsoft is going to implode with the AI bubble
Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 5 months ago
Forcing users to ditch WIndows 10? I can’t help but feel like this is a giant media campaign by microsoft to make people switch to Win 11. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. I can still use Windows XP if I want to.
pachrist@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not sure why we’re surprised. And even then, it took a while for the “good” OSes to get good. Windows 7 is remembered fondly because it ended well, not because it started well.
Windows 95: OK Windows 98: Bad Windows 98 SE: OK Windows ME/2000: Bad Windows XP: OK Windows Vista: Bad Windows 7: OK Windows 8: Bad Windows 10: OK Windows 11: Bad
BilSabab@lemmy.world 5 months ago
yay! hi mint!
skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
How bad would running Windows 10 past support be exactly? Seems like most vulnerabilities should have been patched by now.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Guess I’ll be keeping mine offline forever then.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I’m hoping I can last one more month with my Win10 laptop. After that I’ll have the time to see if UNIX is the way to go. My laptop is almost 10 years old so I’m not sure if that would be like putting lipstick on an old pig or not.
InnerScientist@lemmy.world 5 months ago
These threads feel kinda redundant, all comments are just preaching to the choir.
Can anyone comment about anything besides “[…] switched to Linux […]”?
tccpdi@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Long time windows user, games retained me but I found Proton so bye bye forever windows. Now convincing my wife to switch it’s the real challenge haha
flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Windows team is desperate to remain relevant.
I suspect most Microsoft revenue these days comes from Azure and the cloud version of Office. Windows OS is pretty much irrelevant other than as a platform to distribute other products.
RedStrider@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I hate windows 11 so much. Notifications are so much harder to read compared to 10 due to the right menu being nonexistant, instead we have this floating notification area that I never use. Everything takes ages to load, even on my beefy pc Settings still takes like 10 seconds to open. And it feels like the programmers died halfway though re-coding the context menus. Everything slightly more advanced can only be done through the old stuff so you end up with this awful mess where there’s no design consistency, and it takes twice the clicks to get to something.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 months ago
Glad I ditched windows 11 for linux mint.
3x3@lemy.lol 5 months ago
Switched to macOS. Best decision ever for companies that still force you to use office products.