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As Microsoft Forces Users to Ditch Windows 10, It Announces That It’s Also Turning Windows 11 into an AI-Controlled Monstrosity

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https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-windows-11-ai-controlled

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  • tccpdi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Long time windows user, games retained me but I found Proton so bye bye forever windows. Now convincing my wife to switch it’s the real challenge haha

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    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Just do it while she’s at work!

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      • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Wow Windows 11 new UI update looks wild… I like it.

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Over in the Linux world we have a cute penguin who leaves you alone.

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    For the gamers here using Linux: what about Discord? One of my only social outlets currently is unfortunately through Discord with some friends. There any issues with drivers for headsets and/or Discord having issues?

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    • chris@l.roofo.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Discord has an official client for Linux. Also it works well in a Browser. I use it regularly without issues.

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    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I use discord via browser on my Linux.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When I have to use discord, I use it in the browser. I don’t trust the app not to get up to no good.

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      • Jyek@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The app is just a browser wrapper over the web app.

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    • Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Discord works absolutely fine in Linux. I use “Vesktop” which is a desktop client for Discord. Performance is identical to using the Discord app in Windows AFAIK.

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    • d3lta19@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I use discord flatpak and it works flawlessly

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    • fxleak@lemmings.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Discord is a horrible product and we should be steering people away from it and towards a federated alternative like Matrix.

      That said, it works fine on Linux. The only issue is that updating it requires editing a text file because the incompetent cunts at the company can’t be arsed to develop their product properly.

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      • ohlaph@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Mateix eh? Go on…

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    • chat_mots@jlai.lu ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have some issues making screenshares with the native app. But the browser version works flawlessly.

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      • iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I had the same problem, but it turned put to be Wayland support, which is now fixed.

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    • voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Have had absolutely 0 issues with the official discord linux desktop app for a couple years now. Works just the same as windows

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    • TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Discord has a version for Linux. I use it, and it’s pretty much the same experience as in winblows.

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    • Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sometimes screen sharing my desktop/games crashes discord or it just doesn’t work. Not a big deal and works 70% of the time.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, Discord is available on Linux, Archlinux for example has the package and I suppose this is true for many other distros.

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  • RedStrider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I hate windows 11 so much. Notifications are so much harder to read compared to 10 due to the right menu being nonexistant, instead we have this floating notification area that I never use. Everything takes ages to load, even on my beefy pc Settings still takes like 10 seconds to open. And it feels like the programmers died halfway though re-coding the context menus. Everything slightly more advanced can only be done through the old stuff so you end up with this awful mess where there’s no design consistency, and it takes twice the clicks to get to something.

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Makes me wonder if anyone actually likes the windows experience. The main resistances I see to moving away from it are about familiarity and compatibility, plus some people tired of linux’s popularity here.

      I’m thinking that the company is only surviving based on large org buyin, including the main PC system makers who make windows the default option.

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  • BoloMKXXVIII@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I am forced to use Windows on my work computer, but that is ONLY used for official work related functions. My personal PCs (I have several) all run various flavors of Linux. Monday through Friday I am reminded why I don’t have Windows on my personal machines.

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    • Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I feel this. I recently switched jobs and have a work PC (Win11) and work phone (whatever Iphone model) and I feel so dumb using them and I’m really tech savvy

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    • lightnegative@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I was finally at a job where I could use Linux at work. Things were great for about a year and then BOOM we get acquired and the new company forces MacBooks on everyone.

      I. Friggin. Hate. MacOS. The biggest pain point is the keyboard shortcuts, 15 years of Linux muscle memory…

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  • CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I finally troubleshooted why my Linux usb boot drive wasn’t working. Planning on making the switch when I have time off work.

    So long as I can get Steam and Jellyfin working, I’ll never switch back.

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    • Mertn33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Jellyfin works well on linux.

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    • placatedmayhem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Bazzite was the distro that got me to kill the Windows 10 install on my gaming machine. Steam Deck catalyzed the move, but Bazzite was the final piece. Steam comes pre-baked in Bazzite, as does your graphics drives, and some multi-store frontends (I forget which atm), and some other quality of life bits. And Jellyfin Media Player is on Flathub, so installs easily via Flatpak.

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  • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    These threads feel kinda redundant, all comments are just preaching to the choir.

    Can anyone comment about anything besides “[…] switched to Linux […]”?

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    • sonofearth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What else do you expect everyone to do? Please enlighten us if you have something more to offer than switching to Linux — which seemingly is the best option currently.

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      • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m not saying that you shouldn’t, I am saying that there’s more to discuss than “switched to Linux /thread”.

        For example let me just quote microsoft “The vision that we have is: let’s rewrite the entire operating system around AI, and build essentially what becomes truly the AI PC.” and think about what that means for your workplace. Windows isn’t going to vanish in a few years. The companies that have a lot of windows PCs will have to deal with increased hardware requirements in an already expensive market, have to wrangle user settings that the ai set on voice commands or fight against Microsoft to shut it all down.

        I feel like there’s going to be a lot of wasted productivity in the coming years spend on fixing what ai broke.

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      • OozingPositron@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m not that guy but there’s ESU or windows 10 IoT.

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    • lukaro@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sure, I switched to Mac.

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      • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Don’t they also push their new AI on customers? I don’t use MacOS so I’m a bit ootl on that.

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    • melfie@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There are several common refrains on Lemmy that many people find cathartic. If you don’t care to tell us about your preferred Linux distro again, maybe another thread will pop up soon about how streaming services are enshittified and you can tell us about what you’re self-hosting again.

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      • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I get wanting to tell people that you’ve switched from windows but these threads just feel too repetitive to be engaging, there’s no interesting discussion when everyone is just repeating the same points every month.

        There’s also no discussion about the article or if there is then I couldn’t find it because of all the switched to Linux comments.

        Oh well, back to other threads…

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      • bless@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I use arch btw

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      windows 10 LTSC from massgrave.dev site for afew years, but that will come to an end too. after that if you hate yourself there are the BSDs, or you can install hackintosh too. but the linuxes are the most mature alternative that won’t just fuck you over

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Stay on 10 and force M$ to give further updates because of sheer popularity, just like they had to with XP

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      • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Companies have already updated, new notebooks come with windows 11, it’s sadly inevitable that most users will sooner or later be switched to windows 11.

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  • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Glad I ditched windows 11 for linux mint.

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  • BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My experience with W11 on the work laptop.

    Taskbar sucks, maybe because I’m colorblind but I can te what my selected program is and programs with notifications (Teams) look like the focused program. Apparently notification boxes there are pink now. Can’t find any accessibility setting but fuck the colorblind I guess. It feels wrong to click the highlighted icon I for years have learned will mean that I minimize it…

    And why all the dots? And why is the notification dot the largest, so I can even tell which window is actually focused?

    Outlook doesn’t open with focus, especially the window that is supposed to pop up and warn me of upcoming meetings. Really annoying.

    Teams notifications just don’t show if you are in a meeting and that is focused, they used to do that on W10.

    Might be a Firefox bug, but there’s a lot of new visual bugs. Github diff view is randomly strongly colored, and randomly changes to the old weaker background colors when scrolling/resizing the windows. And a surprising amount of scrollbars in grids that weren’t there before.

    I just wish W11 at least worked with the regular features of W10.

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    • DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Can’t find any accessibility setting but fuck the colorblind I guess.

      On Windows 11 there are accessibility settings for colorblind people. Settings -> Accessibility -> Color Filters. There, you can enable the feature and choose the right filter for you. Going by your description, I’m not sure it’ll help, but feel free to try it. Colorblind accessibility options have been progressing quite nicely the past few years, so at least there’s something to be happy about.

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      • BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s not helping unfortunately, it’s just a blanket change in colors by some filter. The taskbar highlight is bad to begin with. Ideally the should use red/orange for warning highlights and used bright white. But a weak pink isn’t going to be more visible even if it was turned redish. It’ll still be weak.

        And it does change every other thing on screen, which won’t be good for me since colors aren’t an issue normally, and even worse if it affect screen sharing. Taskbar changes is just straight up bad UX that tries to look good.

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  • VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If you absolutely need to use Windows11, use Tiny11. But for the great majority of users, Zorin/Ubuntu/Mint or Bazzite are best pick

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  • webdox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Posting from a 13 year old Windows 7 64 bit gaming desktop. Come get me Gates…

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    • fxleak@lemmings.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t that a massive security risk?

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      • incompetent@programming.dev ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes.

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    • Lee@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you play any games with kernel anti cheat? I assumed a lot of anti cheat systems would have dropped support for win 7 by now. I stayed on win 7 as long as I could (I had non gaming compatibility issues). I feel like it was peak windows. Had they put the win 10 performance improvements in to win 7, it would have been perfection.

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  • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Microsoft is going to implode with the AI bubble

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I hope you’re right but they’ve been overdue since USA vs Microsoft.

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      MS is waaaay too big to fail.

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      • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Xerox, AT&T, sometimes companies die

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      • hayvan@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yes. At this point they are pretty much trying to fail but failing at that.

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  • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Windows team is desperate to remain relevant.

    I suspect most Microsoft revenue these days comes from Azure and the cloud version of Office. Windows OS is pretty much irrelevant other than as a platform to distribute other products.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I am predicting at some point Windows itself will become a business only product and cease to be marketed to consumers, and the home user platform will be some kind of live service bullshit probably served in a browser. Basically the Chromebook idea, but Microsoft.

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      • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s what they’d like, and that’s what’s actually available today, if you have serious enough brain damage it’s available now.

        www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Windows is about 10% of Microsoft revenue

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    • sonofearth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Once Adobe apps and new versions of Microsoft office start working reliably on Linux, 50% of corporate PCs are out of Windows’ market share.

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  • thatradomguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Called it

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only if you have hardware that can handle it.

    Don’t run Windows 11 on ARM.

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  • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This entire article is trusting the word of Microsoft's director of marketing

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  • Tim_Bisley@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Forcing users to ditch WIndows 10? I can’t help but feel like this is a giant media campaign by microsoft to make people switch to Win 11. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. I can still use Windows XP if I want to.

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  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Cool. Pop_OS is working quite well over here.

    It’s never been a better time to convert to Linux. The best part is that if one distro turns to shit you can just move over to another.

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  • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How bad would running Windows 10 past support be exactly? Seems like most vulnerabilities should have been patched by now.

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  • Dogiedog64@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Some real 5D chess plays from the big MS these days lmfao. I’ll stick with Linux, thanks.

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  • NGC2346@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    For now, the Copilot features will be technically opt-in, but it’s more than possible that this will change in the future.

    As much as i dislike some Windows 11 elements, let’s stick to facts. The headline make it seem way worse than it actually is, although still not good at all.

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  • Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    TrmpleOS here I come!

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  • NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Run Linux on my main PC.

    Time to switch my old laptop over too, or maybe I could configure a new linux PC as my “laptop” if I could get a good touch screen interface (for relaxing on the couch)?

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    IDGAF for my personal machine. If MS jams AI up my ass, and I can’t shut it off, then I’ll bail. All these stories are overblown, as is lemmy’s take on Windows.

    For example; only ad I see is the occasional sentence on my lock screen, “You should try $whatever!” That blurb isn’t on my radar. But to hear lemmy tell it, I’m overrun with ads at every turn.

    I’m told Windows is constantly fucking up and updates are crippling. This machine was originally Windows 10 and has been through 3 machines, same SSD, did nothing but swap it. No issues. At all.

    Want to talk about issues? Lemmy is the most clusterfucked IT experience in my life ATM.

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  • Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Me, using my MacBook:

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    (Don’t roast me for not using Linux, I’m all in and happy in the Apple ecosystem!)

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  • foodandart@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hm.

    Well, Microsoft can tell me to upgrade my PC and like with Apple saying the same thing about my Macintoshes - ad nauseam - I can ignore it all. And will.

    My PC is for gaming and nothing else anyhow…

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  • Surp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I just play games on my home computer so windows 11 is whatever to me

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  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Guess I’ll be keeping mine offline forever then.

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  • Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But Zorin OS too hard! I was told.

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