As Microsoft Forces Users to Ditch Windows 10, It Announces That It’s Also Turning Windows 11 into an AI-Controlled Monstrosity

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DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It’s insane how much extra time, effort and sanity you can retain simply by switching to Linux. I initially switched a few years ago, then fully shortly after. Using my PCs has never been better and I had no issues with gaming. The only games that don’t work are some of the live service ones I’ll never be interested in.

One of the best decisions in my life, right up there with deleting all social media. Life keeps getting better, relatively speaking, but of course rich pedophiles just can’t tolerate us having a good time.

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- ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Switched everything to Bazzite as a start. Easiest switch after figuring out Windows sabotages boot drives.
  
  I may have pirated all my Windows but man it feels good to be off that ride. Spoofing corporate licenses for the authenticator was such a hassle.
  
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  - rami@ani.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They do what to boot drives?
    
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BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
My experience with W11 on the work laptop.

Taskbar sucks, maybe because I’m colorblind but I can te what my selected program is and programs with notifications (Teams) look like the focused program. Apparently notification boxes there are pink now. Can’t find any accessibility setting but fuck the colorblind I guess. It feels wrong to click the highlighted icon I for years have learned will mean that I minimize it…

And why all the dots? And why is the notification dot the largest, so I can even tell which window is actually focused?

Outlook doesn’t open with focus, especially the window that is supposed to pop up and warn me of upcoming meetings. Really annoying.

Teams notifications just don’t show if you are in a meeting and that is focused, they used to do that on W10.

Might be a Firefox bug, but there’s a lot of new visual bugs. Github diff view is randomly strongly colored, and randomly changes to the old weaker background colors when scrolling/resizing the windows. And a surprising amount of scrollbars in grids that weren’t there before.

I just wish W11 at least worked with the regular features of W10.

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- DupaCycki@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Can’t find any accessibility setting but fuck the colorblind I guess.
  
  On Windows 11 there are accessibility settings for colorblind people. Settings -> Accessibility -> Color Filters. There, you can enable the feature and choose the right filter for you. Going by your description, I’m not sure it’ll help, but feel free to try it. Colorblind accessibility options have been progressing quite nicely the past few years, so at least there’s something to be happy about.
  
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  - BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s not helping unfortunately, it’s just a blanket change in colors by some filter. The taskbar highlight is bad to begin with. Ideally the should use red/orange for warning highlights and used bright white. But a weak pink isn’t going to be more visible even if it was turned redish. It’ll still be weak.
    
    And it does change every other thing on screen, which won’t be good for me since colors aren’t an issue normally, and even worse if it affect screen sharing. Taskbar changes is just straight up bad UX that tries to look good.
    
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VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you absolutely need to use Windows11, use Tiny11. But for the great majority of users, Zorin/Ubuntu/Mint or Bazzite are best pick

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viking@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I upgraded to Windows 11 last week after my laptop initially came with it 2 years ago, but was so bloated and slow I installed Windows 10 from USB.

With the EoL I reluctantly upgraded due to company policy, and it was running surprisingly smooth. Really thought they’d fixed it. Only that two days later when I booted the system, I had a blue screen - the first one I have seen since Windows XP.

Page fault in non-page area 0x50 - google suggests reboots, or if they don’t bring any progress, boot into safe mode and update all drivers. Only that I couldn’t boot into safe mode, the BSOD locked me out.

Second suggestion was faulty RAM. Did a memtest from boot stick, no fault.

Third suggestion was to run checkdisk and scm or whatever it was called (some system file integrity check). All good.

Fourth suggestion was to boot into recovery mode, roll back into the system image the Windows 11 installer created, and redo the upgrade. Only to find out that the system restore point had not been created, despite the info box during the installation that this was happening.

Last suggestion was to reinstall Windows 11 from the repair mode, and select the “keep files” option. The offline installer crashed at 25% repeatedly, the online installer moved to 92% and stopped there. Repeatedly, again (tried 3x, and it takes about 1h to get there).

After all that frustration I had enough of that shit and installed Windows 10 IoT LTSC with updates until 2032. When the time comes I’ll either have a new job where I can use Xubuntu, or Microsoft installed on a chip in my brain. Let’s see.

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- Nollij@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If it’s working fine in 10, it’s very unlikely to be a hardware fault. Possible (but unlikely) a hardware configuration.
  
  The answer was almost certainly drivers. While I acknowledge that you were unsuccessful at changing them, that is still where your issues came from. You probably could’ve fixed it WinPE/WinRE, which is admittedly way more complicated than it should be.
  
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- Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  10% chance of BS when I plug in my docking station. Has been working for years before the upgrade.
  
  VMware is straight up broken on some of our laptops. Hyper-V is noticeably slower, too. Why would I recommend Server 2025 to anyone?
  
  New job provides hardware and allows me to install Linux. Hell yeah.
  
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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve never had a windows 11 blue screen but then again this computer has always had windows 11 on it. It wasn’t an upgrade.
  
  But there is virtually nothing in the OS and that really is an improvement over 10. As far as I can sell all of them it’s had a bunch of ads to it and make it simultaneously impossible to use anything other than OneDrive, but at the same time not having OneDrive be remotely reliable.
  
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- __siru__@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not to speak for Windows or against Xubuntu, but didn’t Xubuntu just recently have some secrity exploit that was pushed as an update to devices?
  
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  - viking@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Nah their website got hijacked and instead of an ISO they spread malware. The system itself was never at risk, if you ran it.
    
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sparky@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Windows is becoming so trash that a bunch of my not-that-tech-savvy friends have been hitting me up asking about gaming on various Linux distros. (Just a few years ago it was all “Linux? Haha nerd”.) And the non gamers are switching to Mac at a remarkable rate.

And things have progressed so well that even for them, after installing Mint and showing them how to use ProtonPlus to install and select Proton-GE, they’re pretty much off to the races without much further hand holding.

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Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I am 99% Tumbleweed except my gaming PC which is still on Win11 (but I haven’t seen any bloat on it, no ads in winkey menu etc).

I am a huge flight simmer and, besides Xplane, MSFS has Microsoft in its name but the problem is more about the tons of tools around the simulator rather than the sim (aircraft, peripherals, maps&nav, ATC, job manager etc). MSFS do run on proton, but plenty of background tools don’t 😔

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- dan@upvote.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I haven’t seen any bloat on it, no ads in winkey menu
  
  If you’re in the EU, that’s probably why. I think the bloat is only for non-EU users.
  
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  - Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I am so yes it’s probably why.
    
    The iso from massgrave was made with Rufus that can disable the unnecessary requirements and force creation of a local account instead of windows live 🖕
    
    Then activated and lightly debloated with powershell. That makes windows usable for what I need it to, just launching games.
    
    Everything else is done on a minisforum Linux or framework Linux (even sometimes gaming on it when I’m not at home).
    
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- lightnegative@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yep, I’ve seen MS flight simulator fans basically create entire cockpits in their house with a crap tonne of screens for 180-degree vision and hook up all the 3rd party peripherals.
  
  There’s just no way this will ever work seamlessly on Linux
  
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  - Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, but Xplane 12 does work natively and perfectly on Linux and MacOS. So there’s that.
    
    But I guess if you start adding several joysticks (minimum of 3 for an aircraft, joystick or yoke, rudder, throttle quadrant) with assorted softwares it becomes a bit of a headache and most probably it won’t be 3 joysticks from the same vendor.
    
    And today we have the Chinese winwings that makes full glareshield and mcdu at acceptable prices eu.winwingsim.com/view/goods-details.html?id=925 so that’s another software to configure.
    
    And all of that is only for one aircraft type (Airbus in my example) 😅
    
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Dogiedog64@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Some real 5D chess plays from the big MS these days lmfao. I’ll stick with Linux, thanks.

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mctoasterson@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Microsoft literally wanted me to convert my desktop to e-waste as it lacks the magical TPM chip that Win11 demands.

I said “fuck that” and pulled the Boot SSD, kept the existing non-boot drives for data, and put in a brand new SSD, encrypted it and installed Pop OS in one shot.

Not only was it easy, I lost literally zero critical functionality vs. what I had with Win 10. There is a Linux app equivalent for everything I had before. I had a few driver issues but most were auto-discovered including obscure ancient printers and scanners on my network.

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- Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s not just TPM. Older Intel CPU’s have unpatchable hardware flaws.
  
  arstechnica.com/…/5-years-of-intel-cpus-and-chips…
  
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- __siru__@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Arguably sometimes drivers for older devices are more likely to have been ported to Linux at some point then conpletely new devices.
  
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- WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Why did you have to replace the SSD?
  
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  - mctoasterson@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I didn’t “have to” but, a few reasons…
    
    Swapping the drive created a pretty easy rollback path that was just “put original drive back”
    
    The drive was ~10 years old, and was in the range of recommended replacement for an SSD with the amount of TBW and age it had.
    
    Original drive was kinda small and a new larger drive was available for not very much money.
    
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- dan@upvote.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  it lacks the magical TPM chip that Win11 demands.
  
  How old is it? TPM has been standard equipment for a long time now.
  
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  - KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Does it really matter? I’ve been using my i7 from 2016 and it’s still going strong.
    
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MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I work in IT and far be it for me to tell you what OS to use on your own computer.

The only thing I want to die right now, is the AI bubble. Just pop already. Holy fuck what a worthless endeavor this has been.

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- lightnegative@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  +1000. one of my coworkers keeps thinking he’s saving time with AI-generated code but what he’s really doing is pushing the thinking downstream when we have to pick apart the absolute garbage that gets generated.
  
  PR feedback gets turned into AI prompts and the cycle continues. It’s exhausting
  
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  - eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, it’s BS. I scrutinize PRs to let peers realize that it’s often not worth the time when they have to redo basically everything the agent wrote in the first place. There’s been some truly lazy PRs…
    
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Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Cool. Pop_OS is working quite well over here.

It’s never been a better time to convert to Linux. The best part is that if one distro turns to shit you can just move over to another.

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Etzello@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Crazy to me that windows is finally worse than MacOS

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- lightnegative@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Oh wow, you’re right.
  
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- MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  We live in wild times
  
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justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This entire article is trusting the word of Microsoft's director of marketing

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DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Four Horsemen of Apocalypse

The country where a lot of tech countries are headquartered in, elects a wanna-be dictator

Android restricts “sideloading” (aka: non-approved install)

Windows has mandatory AI

Mandatory ID Verification
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- aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How do I escape this shitty timeline?
  
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  - pirat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Just ask ChatGPT…
    
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  - DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Stop SERN, Prevent WW3, Find the Steins;Gate Seikaisen (Worldline)
    
    El. Psy. Congroo.
    
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one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ok, guys. I’m reading some of these replies which are saying the amount of outrage is out of proportion. I have to disagree with that. I don’t want an AI running on my PC that is monitoring and learning about my shit. I didn’t want that data saved even locally, let alone the monetization of that data. I don’t want to be paying for power of a device that is turning me into someone else’s paycheck.

Can you turn it off? I believe you can. But I also believe that doing it manually would be incredibly annoying since that does go with a lot of past practice. I also get it would reactivate itself after major updates, like how Edge keeps reinstalling.

Are there other solutions to my Microsoft issues, yes. Chris Titus Tech comes to mind.

But overall, the Windows ecosystem does not feel right to me anymore. Could other people still use it, yes. Am I going to stop them, not intentionally. But my Arch gaming PC runs games better than the same machine running Windows. I’ve always entertained the idea of a full switch, still have a Windows 11 dual boot and haven’t officially done it yet, but with this the moment feels right. At least for me, hopefully you can understand that.

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- Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The cool part is that 100% of the “AI features” they’re advertising are either not running locally or not AI at all
  
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  - one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think that if someone (even ai) is analyzing my documents, then they are bypassing my permissions and looking despite the fact that it is supposed to be private. Basically if ai is looking at my files, I don’t care if it isn’t running locally, it is bypassing my permissions to my automated stock trading algorithms. I know security isn’t exactly Windows strength anyways, but accessing my files without my consent or knowledge is a nail in the coffin for me. Granted, you can disable it, I might point you in the direction of winutil by Chris Titus, but I would bet money that a Windows update will re enable it without consent or permission.
    
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- dbkblk@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If you need 3D work, you can still use a virtual machine with kvm, it is really fast! (then ditch Windows :) )
  
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  - aloofPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you mean CAD, I found that FreeCAD works nicely as a parametric 3D modeler with some nice macros and addons
    
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- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s off by default.
  
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    For now.
    
    Also fuck edge for so many reasons, like ring zero access. It’s "used by (not “powers”) other things in the os by design so that they "can’t " comply with EU rules(and more).
    
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- itsworkthatwedo@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Do yrself the favor and cut the cord.
  
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- Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think we have a bit of a degree of “Yep, that’s Microsoft alright” mood as a whole because it’s accepted that things are going to get worse for their users perpetually, so I personally stopped giving a shit because I already left before win10 EOL anyway. I’m guessing there’s a similar mood among others who already saw the writing on the wall.
  
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- KnitWit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I had dual boot with win10 for a while, but when they had that ‘bug’ that was wiping peoples linux partition I dropped Windows completely. As dar as I’m concerned Linux and other FOSS in general has reached a point where it meets the majority of my needs. Same goes for local storage vs needing anything through the cloud or streeaming.
  
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  - BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Every hang up I had eventually got solved. Except with modding games, I sorely miss Vortex or Mod Organizer and there’s no alternatives I know of besides doing it all manually.
    
    That wasn’t a showstopper for me though. VR, HDR, Video Games were. These three are solved well enough for my tastes this year to drop my dual boot.
    
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shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
IDGAF for my personal machine. If MS jams AI up my ass, and I can’t shut it off, then I’ll bail. All these stories are overblown, as is lemmy’s take on Windows.

For example; only ad I see is the occasional sentence on my lock screen, “You should try $whatever!” That blurb isn’t on my radar. But to hear lemmy tell it, I’m overrun with ads at every turn.

I’m told Windows is constantly fucking up and updates are crippling. This machine was originally Windows 10 and has been through 3 machines, same SSD, did nothing but swap it. No issues. At all.

Want to talk about issues? Lemmy is the most clusterfucked IT experience in my life ATM.

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- BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  only ad I see is the occasional sentence on my lock screen, “You should try $whatever!”
  
  Why put up with any ads? No other desktop OS does this…
  
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- the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  We’re so glad you shared.
  
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Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Once I finish college I’m nuking my Windows partition. Won’t even boot into it on any future laptop, will just nuke it fully. I’m just waiting now cause I don’t wanna have to fight with teachers over online test software and shit, I like being able to do easy at home exams.

But I will relish the day I walk across the stage. It’ll be gone that night.

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foodandart@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Hm.

Well, Microsoft can tell me to upgrade my PC and like with Apple saying the same thing about my Macintoshes - ad nauseam - I can ignore it all. And will.

My PC is for gaming and nothing else anyhow…

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Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Me, using my MacBook:

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(Don’t roast me for not using Linux, I’m all in and happy in the Apple ecosystem!)

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- Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I ain’t roastin’, but I am confused as all hell if you planned on gamin’.
  
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  - Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I do not. I don’t game on my laptop.
    
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- foodandart@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Heheheh… I too have apple hardware… running unsupported installs (am currently on Mojave as I require 32-bit support for old peripherals and software), so when Apple tells me to upgrade, it lasts until the System Update checks the hardware then promptly fucks off never to bother me again.
  
  I think am going to ignore Muicrosoft just like I do Apple and leave the gaming PC with Win10 Pro until I get a second drive for it to run Bazzite on.
  
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  - fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I mean as long as you’re not being too stupid with your PC, and not like doing your taxes on the computer the risk is pretty low.
    
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Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
TrmpleOS here I come!

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- godrik@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Halleluja
  
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- rob64@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The deep cut! Praise god!
  
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floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Over in the Linux world we have a cute penguin who leaves you alone.

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goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Run Linux on my main PC.

Time to switch my old laptop over too, or maybe I could configure a new linux PC as my “laptop” if I could get a good touch screen interface (for relaxing on the couch)?

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- Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think Ubuntu Touch gets decent reviews
  
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Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
But Zorin OS too hard! I was told.

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve been using ZorinOS for about 8-9 months now.
  
  Yeah. It is. If something isn’t a flatpak (so like 80% of programs), then I have no idea how to install it.
  
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br0da@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Windows is still a fixture in my life due to work, but I’ve ditched Windows at home for years and won’t ever go back.

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- jeena@piefed.jeena.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m lucky enough that Linux is one of the half official OS which are allowed and half supported at work.
  
  I’m even more lucky that IT isn’t tech savy enough to be able to do to the Linux installations what they do to Windows and Mac where they preinstalled some rootkits and don’t give you admin rights.
  
  Therefore I’m a Linux enjoyer without involvement of IT. I need to fix all my problems myself and do security and backups myself, but that’s a price I’m more than willing to pay.
  
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BoloMKXXVIII@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I am forced to use Windows on my work computer, but that is ONLY used for official work related functions. My personal PCs (I have several) all run various flavors of Linux. Monday through Friday I am reminded why I don’t have Windows on my personal machines.

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blitzen@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m dangerously close to moving my gaming pc to Linux. What’s the consensus for the best distro for gaming?

I’m comfortable enough with *nix, as my daily is MacOS and I have a home lab/server.

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AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have Win 10 and was a Windows die hard since I was a kid.

Been running Linux on another drive as my default boot for a year and a half in anticipation of this horseshit and was only hesitant to delete Win because my Fanatec sim racing hardware wasn’t supported on Linux.

Welp, turns out hid-fanatecff is a thing. Installed the kernel driver and boom, working Fanatec peripherals. Even my Moza shifter is plug-and-play.

Bye bye Microsoft.

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hypna@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Finally got my last PC switched off Windows. It feels good.

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henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I will continue to enjoy my incredibly straightforward and to the point Linux desktop that’s somehow gained a new AI-free feature by doing nothing.

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