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AWS crash causes $2,000 Smart Beds to overheat and get stuck upright
Submitted 5 months ago by cm0002@lemmings.world to technology@lemmy.zip
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HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 months ago
The only thing my bed has that my previous beds didn’t was a removable charging outlet with USBs and stuff. That’s it. That requires only electricity and is literally something that could have existed last century with no problem.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I have a Sunbeam heated mattress pad. I like sleeping in a cool room but in a panini press. I’m weird.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Never buying smart anything
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Close your eyes, take a moment and just imagine the engineering culture at Eight Sleep. I’d rather be homeless than work there.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 months ago
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
He also invented CFCs, the chemical that nearly destroyed the earth’s protective ozone layer. Quite a guy.
Wahots@pawb.social 5 months ago
A one man environmental disaster. J. R. McNeill opined that Midgley “had more adverse impact on the atmosphere than any other single organism in Earth’s history”
Horse@lemmygrad.ml 5 months ago
also CFCs!
he was a one-man ecological disasterM0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 months ago
His best invention was the bed that killed him! If only those who designed the “smart” beds that need functioning network access (and working AWS) had all been in one.
kamen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Online first, and they’re only now working on offline mode? Okay…
answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 months ago
this is worse than getting locked out of your smart oven for not paying subsceiption
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
It’s amazing that they actually designed the beds to fail in the worse possible way. I mean this is cartoon crazy.
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
So instead of it defaulting to last known good settings, it couldn’t poll AWS to retrieve the user settings and either just went into debug alert mode or the hardcoded defaults are full upright and max temp. More premium products kneecapped by poor management in a race to enshittify everything
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
$2000 is very mid for a bed.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 months ago
What? The frame? The most important part of the bed is the mattress!
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The heck are you talking about. My tuft and needle mint WITH the added cost of extra pillows and a sheet set wasn’t even a full $2000 it’s one of the best mattresses I’ve ever seen in my life I’ve had it for like 5 years now and there’s still zero indication of any type of settling or imprinting on the foam, it’s the perfect mix of firm supportive but comfortable and shape fitting. And every time I’ve seen a bed more expensive than that it’s felt terrible and basically just been about buying the brand name or some stupid exotic material it’s made of
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I paid $700 CAD for my king size. You bougie
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
A reminder to not buy “smart” home appliances unless you can self-host it’s internet connectivity or its “smart” features are optional.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You had me until “unless”.
Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world 5 months ago
smart home appliances are tolerable if they have 0 (zero, cero, null, ling, sifr, mee-then, noll) internet access
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Might wanna get that return shipment prepped, my insomniac friends out there.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I’m sorry. I’m really sorry. But why does a bed need to be smart? This is the dumbest timeline ever. It really is
Redex68@lemmy.world 5 months ago
From what I’ve seen, it’s actually a really good product. Just that the company is trash and forces subscriptions and the mattresses to be always online.
WALLACE@feddit.uk 5 months ago
A subscription for a mattress. This is where we are now.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
How can that possibly be a good product?
webp@mander.xyz 5 months ago
forces the mattresses to be always online
Bahahahaha!
Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 5 months ago
To help people with paralysis shimmy into their wheelchairs in the morning and to keep the elderly in poorly insulated homes from freezing in the night.
cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 5 months ago
okay sounds good. why the cloud thou
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
What a stupid fucking product.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Sorry, I meant to say “stupid fucking people buying stupid fucking products.”
fodor@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Right, and we should protect them by passing laws penalizing companies from such shitty software. Cuz the average person can’t access the source code.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Beds are often used for fucking. Beds are fucking products.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 5 months ago
Dumbest fucking timeline
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I thought I was terminally online but this is the moment I am hearing about smart beds. I guess the appeal is that it beams ads directly into your dreams?
nucleative@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We’re about to go through about 10 years of vibe coded garbage aren’t we.
plyth@feddit.org 5 months ago
2, don’t forget the nuclear war.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I feel like if I was gonna put a computer attached to a motor & heater inside a bed, the very first step would be making sure that if the software goes wrong, it always defaults to staying bed shaped and not catching fire.
I know I know hindsight is 20/20, I’m sure I’m just missing something. Venture capitalists would just give their money to any random idiot with a pitch, right?
Wahots@pawb.social 5 months ago
Reminds me of the Naked Gun folding bed scene, haha
DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I am torn between 1) people aren’t smart and 2) smart appliances aren’t smart.
Also, if you’re having an issue with your smart appliances, just open copilot and get the AI to connect you to the other virtual ai assistant for your product which is hopefully not running in AWS which will just ask if you need to talk to a human who doesn’t have a solution for “AWS is down and you bought an internet connected bed my dude”
#internetofshit #thisrantaintover
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 months ago
smart BEDS? Look, I got a bed that has a removal part that has USB chargers, that is all I need… What the FUCK do I need a bed with an internet connection?
gerowen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
People who buy an internet connected bed have more dollars than sense.
mikedd@lemmy.world 5 months ago
After reading the post and sifting through the comments I had this realization, that’s probably more about advertising than anything else, I guess, but… Don’t you find it strange that in the last few years, there’s a non-zero number of people who stumble upon an article like this, on lemmy, out of all places, and think “I didn’t even know that existed, yet, it’s very obvious that enough people use it for it to make headlines”? Is it just me? 🤔
mikedd@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What’s wrong with just a regular mattress? Why does it have to be connected to the internet? :(
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
It adjusts temperature (can heat OR cool and in some versions it can heat one side and cool the other) and I think the even more expensive version can morph a bit to your liking, and according to them, reduce snoring.
What they don’t mention is that regardless of whether you get the 3600 euro option or the 5800 euro option, you still have to SUPPLY YOUR OWN MATTRESS. It’s also a subscription service.
If you didn’t hate it enough, it’s also advertised as being “powered by AI”. Which almost certainly is just some temperature adjustment algorithm, maybe even a deterministic one.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
It adjusts temperature (can heat OR cool and in some versions it can heat one side and cool the other) and I think the even more expensive version can morph a bit to your liking, and according to them, reduce snoring.
You don’t need the internet to do those things thoug
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Here I am like a preb using a hot water bottle when cold and less bedsheets when hot. If only I knew there was a technical solution for a problem that’s already been solved hundreds of times over!
matlag@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Reminds me that nurse interview in Spain during the blackout:
“But your hospital doesn’t have a backup generator?? -Oh we have solar panels, we could be running off the grid! But the power management system requires an Internet connection, and it’s down!”
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The nurse knew that the power management system required an Internet connection? That’s one geeky nurse.
Still, I have hope with things like solar panels. I think these are likely to be teething pains there. Being off-grid on a solar panel is probably a pretty common situation, so they’re probably going to eventually work out the kinks. As long as there isn’t a monopoly on power management systems, or regulatory capture by the companies that make them, probably the ability to work disconnected from both the power and Internet grids will eventually happen. But, with Internet-of-Things stuff, there’s often a commercial incentive to mine people’s data and lock them into a subscription service model. So, that’s really going to require regulation to fix.
CCMan1701A@startrek.website 5 months ago
Waiting for the reports that cars couldn’t be used because of the aws issue
hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Not that it isn’t wildly ridiculous and stupid to have an internet connected bed, but couldn’t you just unplug it if it’s overheating?
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
They would have to know it does that first
matlag@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
That’s what customer support would have told the poor clueless customers if the hotline had not been an AI agent running on AWS!
mikedd@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Damn, that’s bleak…
Pulptastic@midwest.social 5 months ago
But then it’s not a smart beer, is it Todd?
CameronDev@programming.dev 5 months ago
Dont blame the victim, those poor people couldn’t sleep, as if they could critically think /s
quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Of course someone made a bed whose controls require an API with internet access…
DancingBear@midwest.social 5 months ago
This is completely ridiculous. Why would you buy a bed that goes upright? Through the internet?
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Because, and this may surprise you, some (most?) people don’t think about how their stuff works. They just see it has an app and goes “neat!”.
I don’t know why my dishwasher should be online. But I’ve been with people who’s smart watches twinkled to alert them that their dishwasher, located 30min away, was out of rinse aid. I no scenario is that relevant. Rant warning There’s a God damn light on the front of the unit, that tells you the same damn thing, and you can’t do anything about without being at the unit. What are you going to do? Drop whatever you’re doing at work and take an hour lunch break early to drive home and deal with it? Didn’t think so.
BUT the person had seen the dishwasher and thought it was neat, modern, and needed a new dishwasher. And that’s whywe end up with a lot of “smart” devices, which are just “ordinary devices with an cloud based remote control”
slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Same people who are dropping their jaw when their car has a big-ass tablet in the middle of the dashboard instead of physical buttons.
You have to find the controls for windshield wiper’s speed 3 submenus deep, but it looks so modern and cool!
Buckshot@programming.dev 5 months ago
Bought a new dryer recently and ended paying more for one that didn’t have internet connectivity. It’s entire operation requires physical presence, why would i need ever need remote access. It’s just something else to go wrong.
Jarix@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Or maybe just go and get some more rinse aid in the way home… You don’t need to jump to rediculous conclusions.
DancingBear@midwest.social 5 months ago
Nah bruh, if my dishwasher ever sends me a text message, I am taking the rest of the day off just because, and my boss would understand
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I have awful acid reflux and have an adjustable bed frame. Having the top half slightly raised is a life saver since I can raise it for worse reflux and lower it for better sleep. I just use a remote, though. Doing it on an app through the internet is just stupid.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I am more shocked that there are people who are interested in “smart” furnitures and appliance.
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I can completely understand it, if you ignore all the privacy issues and potential hacks.
For example, a smart fridge. Imagine a fridge that tracks the expiry date of everything inside and warns you before something goes bad – or detects when something goes bad based on the off-gassing that it produces. Imagine it gets to know your purchase patterns and suggests items for your grocery list when you’re running low. Or, if you fully trust it, it could even order those things for you.
Or, smart lights. Imagine lights that are nice and bright in the winter when you don’t get enough sunlight. Then imagine those lights are smart enough to start dimming and getting “warmer” at a certain point in the evening on your personal schedule, making your body more prepared for sleep. Add motion / presence sensors so that the lights turn on when you go into a room, and turn off when everybody leaves the room. Most of the time a light switch isn’t a burden, but if you’re carrying things it can be a bit annoying, and we all know kids are pretty bad about turning things off when they leave a room.
In a world where you didn’t have to worry about the privacy issues, the bugs had all been worked out, and so-on, smart appliances could be great. But, we’re on v0.1 and so I’m extremely cautious in every “smart” device I use.
4am@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Smart devices are fine - it usually just means remote control or status. Plenty of use in that.
The problem is that no one can be arsed to buy a local hub and figure out how to connect it, so every company just builds an app and makes it cloud connected. That way they can farm your stupidity.
It’s not hard to make a device that works locally (it’s way easier than making a cloud service) but it’s far less lucrative.
That being said if I bought a $2000 mattress cover and it didn’t work offline I’d have gotten my fucking money back.
mandatstory@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Unfortunately there is no alternative if you store your sleep number in your mattress instead of in central Ohio region resources then you can’t get a good night’s rest.
Gladaed@feddit.org 5 months ago
Build your shit to be fail safe. The idea that this was less bad if you self hosted is ridiculous. You will have much more outages that way.
You may be right to criticize cloud everything, but as I said, just not the problem here. Only the trigger.