I’ve seen security in European schools. Usually in the morning, due to congestion traffic concerns.
Time to bash Americans again
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TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
madjo@feddit.nl 6 months ago
A MAGA in Amsterdam? ewww, I wish we could close our borders to the likes of them.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Their Insta now says they’ve moved back to the States permanently. And also that their pronouns are they/them, which is super baffling next to “MAGA.”
madjo@feddit.nl 6 months ago
They haven’t figured out that the entire movement that’s their entire personality hates people like them?
That’s hilariously sad!
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I like how Lily tells us she’s not worth bothering with in her username.
Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You know what would be weird? A president of USA doing anything that trump’s doing…
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 6 months ago
[deleted]reptar@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This thread is Poe’s Law-ing the shit out of me
Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
No, no, no. These weapons pale in comparison to basic infantry in the modern military. Not only are they way overkill for anything a law abiding citizen should ever need for recreation, they would also be useless in the case of a 2nd Amendment related coup of the corrupt government.
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Are you saying an AR-15 can’t take out an attack helicopter at 2000m??
JargonWagon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Again? When did everyone stop?
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This was a troll account. It was a Dutch guy pretending to be MAGA to point out how arrogant Europeans are. He succeed thoroughly
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Is it arrogance when you’re just correct?
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
When its all made up? Yes. Yes it is
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Expat” is my favourite dog whistle. Because “migrant” is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
From my own experience as an immigrant in The Netherlands, “expat” is generally used by Americans and Brits and nobody else. I mean, I’ve seen on or two Ozzies using it but it’s way rarer with them and I’ve never seen, for example, other Europeans immigrants there refereing to themselves as “expats”.
I think “expat” is more a thing of people who thing they come from a “great country”, as if somehow it’s a priviledge for the other country to have them there.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think “expat” is more a thing of people who thing they come from a “great country”, as if somehow it’s a priviledge for the other country to have them there.
This is it. If you move from a “better country” to a “worse country” you are an expat (because you think you are something better than the lower people you live among). If you move from a “worse country” to a “better country” you are labelled as a migrant (by the “better” people you live among).
fodor@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I would have said the two words are different by perspective. An “expat” is talking about where you’re from. An “immigrant” is talking about where you are. Also, if you start talking about 2nd generation immigrants, then “expat” can’t be used at all, which means it is narrower in scope, too.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 6 months ago
She has “MAGA” in her display name. Why listen for dogwhistles when there’s a red alert siren?
BTW I had several teachers that described themselves as expats from the UK or US, and they were alright.
sunbytes@lemmy.world 6 months ago
There is technically a difference in the definition, but mostly people use it exactly as you’re describing.
I’ve really had to catch myself when I notice myself using it.
But honestly it’s so expected that people can get confused when you call yourself an immigrant (and you aren’t doing it to make yourself a martyr somehow).
Serpent@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I hate the word for the reasons you’ve said, but I know a lot of black Americans in Portugal that refer to themselves as expats.
Feels to me that the line is drawn along economic privilege lines rather than simply race.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“No war but the class war” strikes again
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
There’s also this level of like, still identifying as being primarily of the country they’re from, like a rejection of assimilation into the place they’ve moved to. I’m not saying that’s inherently good or bad, but, it’s an interesting dynamic, and an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wherever white people get mad at black people you hear the word “thug” thrown out a lot and i always wonder if they’re just using that word to substitute another one they’re not allowed to use publicly
MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The truth hurts.
tauonite@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Shots fired
pseudo@jlai.lu 6 months ago
I remember the exact day they closed up the college with fences and the look on the face on the children who started to feel like prisoners. I also remember the day they started to locked all doors but one to inconvenience potential invaders in high school forcing surveillance on who’s coming and who going on grown teens.
Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Have you heard of “induced demand” courtesy of the FuckCars community?
Well, the same applies to violence.
If you have police on campus people subconsciously expect violence. It’s a self-fullfilling prophecy. The more security theatre you add, the more actual security you’ll need.
Normalizing shootings by giving them such media attention also doesn’t help, if the prospective shooter craves it. Neither does the fact that it occupies a large part of the US public consciousness.
Some kids do it because others have already, and because school shootings are such a hot media topic.
robocall@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why is this a picture of grass?
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s where the fence goes
alzjim@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If I must
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
metal detectors and xray scanning of backpacks made me feel like I was going to prison lol
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 6 months ago
Honestly I believe it’s to train the younger generation to accept a police state and continuous surveillance.
mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
I think the most security I ever had was the gates being locked between opening and closing times. This was during primary school. Britain sucks but at least it’s not America.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
I can’t imagine going to school like that bro.
Like is it scary and you always wonder if some lunatic is going to come and shoot it up or no?
Knightfox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
A lot of this is overblown really. A few things:
- The vast majority of school kids in the US will never deal with an active shooter situation.
- 43% of school shooters in the US are themselves active students
- Only 20% of school shooting perpetrators had no affiliation to the school, meaning that ~37% of shooters were former students, teachers, or parents.
- From 1999 - 2023 there were a total of 131 school shootings, but in 2024 alone there were a reported 332 school shootings.
- These are some terrible numbers, but statistically it’s a rare thing. There are approximately 130,000 K-12 schools in the US and ~75 million students per year. If we assume all schools have the same chance of having a school shooting (they don’t) they would have a 0.2% chance that your school will have a shooting that year or 4% chance that in your k-12 years that you would be at a school shooting.
When people talk about school security in the US they often don’t consider how litigious and risk adverse the US is. You don’t lock doors, build fences, and hire security guards to protect from such a small risk chance, if they actually cared there would be a greater emphasis on mental health. No, they do these things to minimize risk, lower insurance rates, and ward off lawsuits.
The defense writes itself,
“Hey, you can’t sue us for your child’s trauma, we did everything we reasonably could to ensure that a shooter couldn’t get into the school. We built a fence, we locked the doors, we made the kids wear clear plastic book bags, we used a metal detector, we hired a guard, we expelled kids who made threats, and we called the police on people who aren’t allowed to be here. If a kid then sneaks a 3D printed plastic gun on site and traumatizes the students it’s not the school systems fault.”
The US is crazy litigious, especially if a government entity is involved and someone might get a pay day. In my area a high school girl and some similarly aged boys ran away from school while at recess to a forest a mile or two off site. The girl then said she was sexually assaulted by the two boys, called her mom and was picked up and taken to the hospital directly (never came back to the school). The school had reported the girl missing, but only found out about the sexual assault after the mother filed a police report and the police reached out. The school cooperated with the police and reached out to the girl and her mother asking if she was ok or there was anything they could do, but the mother refused to answer their (the schools) phone calls or cooperate with the police. A year later the mother sued the school, the school system, the municipal government, and the police each for several million dollars for allowing her daughter to run away from school and for not protecting her from sexual assault in an offsite location. This lawsuit went on for over a year before the judge dismissed the case.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I mean, I also worry about getting beat up by bullies… 🤷♂️ (its whatever, at least dying form gunshot wound is a cooler way to die than getting kicked in the face, luckily for me, neither happened (although the bullying definitely did happen, just not as violent as I imagine it could be))
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How big is the ocean between Europe and Russia?
VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 6 months ago
Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn’t your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?
smeenz@lemmy.nz 6 months ago
Gotta spread the freedumb
hanrahan@piefed.social 6 months ago
Well, the Dutch are moving right. Gert Wilders is a literal fascist.
AfD in Germany then we have Norway, Italy, Finland, UK, France and on and on. They probably feel at home
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Well, if this wasn’t a troll account, it would probably be for work. The US has a military presence in the Netherlands, and we have a lot of corporate cross-over, especially in the tech industry, like the photo lithography involved in making CPUs. It isn’t that weird.
This is s troll though
jdf038@mander.xyz 6 months ago
Yeah this confuses me to no end. I thought they made America great last election?
pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Trump made it great, but Biden and woke already made it so un-great that the greatness hasn’t all trickled down yet.
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Because they live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Most British schools have bars to keep the kids in.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
That’s an exarregation, right?
bystander@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Yeah, a UK friend of mine mentioned that it is meant to prevent kids from playing hooky (ditch school). Meanwhile in Canada, we’re free range children.
Or does probably depend on the school.
pseudo@jlai.lu 6 months ago
I don’t think so. It is exactly like that in France.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Nasty little fuckers.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 months ago
There was an incident in Dundee recently that far-right knuckle-draggers (like emerald mine nepo-baby Elon Musk) tried to pass off as a 12 year old schoolgirl pulling a knife and fighting off an immigrant rapist, and it turns out she was just tooled up and threatening random strangers.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Because we don’t have regular mass shootings in schools because we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world…or the USA in 1792.
merc@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show
Erm, wut?
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
In America you can bypass gun checks in most checks if you buy your gun from a Gun show.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
It’s not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.
iridebikes@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora’s box.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels
Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.
godfish@lemy.lol 6 months ago
In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
It’s a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and “freedom”
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Narrator: The problem wasn’t the kids it was the US.
Clarification: venues getting shot up is a specifically elevated problem in the US (exacerbated by availability of guns, but that’s not really the root of the problem). The thing is, the root of the problem (right-wing-leaning low-information constituents – lumpenproletariat in left-wing speak – suffering from precarity sometimes turn to violence) is being visited on European nations where two-party systems have taken root, and neoliberalism has set in. It’s the old King Log vs. King Heron problem. We’re seeing violence and counterviolence in the EU, just with less frequency and fewer guns, but it will catch up to them.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 months ago
elvith@feddit.org 6 months ago
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
An easy target without it’s strike group.
RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 6 months ago
I think the US military only attacks school when there students aren’t mainly white
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Or run by a democratically-elected leftist government.
ceiphas@feddit.org 6 months ago
Or a school of fish… or a school boat
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
They call themself an expat that’s all I needed to hear
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 6 months ago
To be fair. We deserve all the smoke.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Yeah I see people online talk about how Europeans can supposedly only come up with one reason to criticize the US and it’s just…
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Not true at all there’s a hundred reasons Europeans could criticize us
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I can’t think of a single criticism I’ve seen of the US that wasn’t completely valid
Like yeah I guess you could argue the average citizen is well aware of the school shooting issue and knows the answer to the problem, but at the same time our last election really calls that perspective into question.
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Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
As a Canadian, I would very much like some sort of barrier between my country and the United States. We’ve got our own brand of crazy up here and have absolutely no need to import any junk from the USA.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 months ago
As an American, I hope Canada gets some sort of barrier between it and the United States.
I would gladly go with my family and volunteer to help build it. If my family "accidentally" ends up on the Canadian side, I'd much rather stay though and help offset the crazy you have there....
nexguy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean if you are there putting the last bricks in and you are standing on the north side you really don’t have much of a choice.
klemptor@startrek.website 6 months ago
Build a wall, make the USA pay for it
(Kidding, mostly.)
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 months ago
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Who the fuck emigrates to Europe as a hardcore American fascist? Seriously? What the actual fuck?
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 6 months ago
I’m an American living in the EU, and I’m surprised by that. All the other American immigrants I’ve met so far have been opposed to Trump and Republicans generally. I always figured the conservatives were likely to be buying into AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt propaganda and would thus be uninterested in moving to another country.
Furbag@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s funny, the fascists “won” here, but they are still expatriating themselves to fuck up other people’s countries too.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 6 months ago
Europeans invented fascism so she’s just trying to learn from the best.
TheBat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Lily (MAGA)
in Amsterdam
Can someone tell this bitch to go back to where she came from?
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Gotta say, thats a pretty good burn.
cathfish@lemmy.world 6 months ago
And we don’t have people walking around with guns (yet).
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 6 months ago
After columbine my school banned all black clothing. And forbid boys picking up sticks in case we used them to pretend they where weapons.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I remember something about trench coats. Then those got banned.
Guns were never banned though!