Who the fuck emigrates to Europe as a hardcore American fascist? Seriously? What the actual fuck?
Time to bash Americans again
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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
MisterOwl@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Spreading the plague, as insects are wont to do.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
As an American, I would like to apologize profusely for the rank idiocy of my fellow citizens.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
We have plenty of fascists here. It’s not like the US have a monopoly. We don’t quite let them run the show yet, but we’re certainly working on it.
Rothe@piefed.social 16 hours ago
Yeah, but a really big part of the MAGA platform is hating on the "communist" and "woke" "yuropoors". She must really really hate it here.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
The difference is that while we may have several fascists here, unlike in the US the majority are not fascists.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
We have European fascists here. The point here is: why would an American fascist move to Amsterdam?
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
They come here to spread their culture, their ideology of violence and intolerance.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
As an American, please enthusiastically tell any American that tries to do this to fuck all the way off and go back to our own shitty country. I don’t want us fucking up your continent too.
RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today 15 hours ago
Europe has its own nest of fascists and they’re gaining popularity.
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 6 hours ago
I’m an American living in the EU, and I’m surprised by that. All the other American immigrants I’ve met so far have been opposed to Trump and Republicans generally. I always figured the conservatives were likely to be buying into AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt propaganda and would thus be uninterested in moving to another country.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 13 hours ago
Europeans invented fascism so she’s just trying to learn from the best.
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
Could be a military member stationed there. A guy I work with is one of those 4chan “libertarians” and had nothing but “horror stories” about living in Germany. Same guy is terrified to venture into the local major metropolitan area or take the light rail system.
Furbag@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It’s funny, the fascists “won” here, but they are still expatriating themselves to fuck up other people’s countries too.
jj4211@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Maybe they needed the more affordable healthcare?
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
We need that, and healthcare that isn’t tied to our jobs, because that significantly entrenches the whole wage slavery thing.
mhague@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Imagine being racist and wanting to enjoy it instead of making it political. In the US it’s culture war shit. In Europe you can go to a football match and throw bananas at the black players and it’s chill. It’s just easier to be casually racist in Europe because racism doesn’t exist there, and if it does, it’s not as bad as America.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Recently in Spain a football fan got sentenced for racist chants
Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
In fairness nobody ever died from a stray banana.
Denjin@feddit.uk 15 hours ago
Yeah, fuck off back to your own shit country if you don’t like it
VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 13 hours ago
Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn’t your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?
jdf038@mander.xyz 12 hours ago
Yeah this confuses me to no end. I thought they made America great last election?
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Because they live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.
pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Trump made it great, but Biden and woke already made it so un-great that the greatness hasn’t all trickled down yet.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 10 hours ago
laughs in Dutch politics
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
“Expat” is my favourite dog whistle. Because “migrant” is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.
sunbytes@lemmy.world 21 minutes ago
There is technically a difference in the definition, but mostly people use it exactly as you’re describing.
I’ve really had to catch myself when I notice myself using it.
But honestly it’s so expected that people can get confused when you call yourself an immigrant (and you aren’t doing it to make yourself a martyr somehow).
Serpent@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
I hate the word for the reasons you’ve said, but I know a lot of black Americans in Portugal that refer to themselves as expats.
Feels to me that the line is drawn along economic privilege lines rather than simply race.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
There’s also this level of like, still identifying as being primarily of the country they’re from, like a rejection of assimilation into the place they’ve moved to. I’m not saying that’s inherently good or bad, but, it’s an interesting dynamic, and an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Wherever white people get mad at black people you hear the word “thug” thrown out a lot and i always wonder if they’re just using that word to substitute another one they’re not allowed to use publicly
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I’m not sure yall get the joke. It’s funny cause 13- 17 year old angsty males in the us have unlimited access to military grade weapons. These bitch ass losers, I mean kids, then take these arms, designed to take out isis and sudam and murder a bunch of 5 year olds with them. Do you get it now?? It’s hilarious ! 😂 and 🤩 ♥️
Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
No, no, no. These weapons pale in comparison to basic infantry in the modern military. Not only are they way overkill for anything a law abiding citizen should ever need for recreation, they would also be useless in the case of a 2nd Amendment related coup of the corrupt government.
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 minutes ago
Are you saying an AR-15 can’t take out an attack helicopter at 2000m??
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
This was a troll account. It was a Dutch guy pretending to be MAGA to point out how arrogant Europeans are. He succeed thoroughly
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
As a Canadian, I would very much like some sort of barrier between my country and the United States. We’ve got our own brand of crazy up here and have absolutely no need to import any junk from the USA.
klemptor@startrek.website 15 hours ago
Build a wall, make the USA pay for it
(Kidding, mostly.)
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 13 hours ago
As an American, I hope Canada gets some sort of barrier between it and the United States.
I would gladly go with my family and volunteer to help build it. If my family "accidentally" ends up on the Canadian side, I'd much rather stay though and help offset the crazy you have there....
nexguy@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I mean if you are there putting the last bricks in and you are standing on the north side you really don’t have much of a choice.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Gotta say, thats a pretty good burn.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
Because we don’t have regular mass shootings in schools because we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world…or the USA in 1792.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
It’s not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels
Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
It’s a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and “freedom”
iridebikes@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora’s box.
godfish@lemy.lol 14 hours ago
In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show
Erm, wut?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
metal detectors and xray scanning of backpacks made me feel like I was going to prison lol
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 8 hours ago
Honestly I believe it’s to train the younger generation to accept a police state and continuous surveillance.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 12 hours ago
I can’t imagine going to school like that bro.
Like is it scary and you always wonder if some lunatic is going to come and shoot it up or no?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
I mean, I also worry about getting beat up by bullies… 🤷♂️ (its whatever, at least dying form gunshot wound is a cooler way to die than getting kicked in the face, luckily for me, neither happened (although the bullying definitely did happen, just not as violent as I imagine it could be))
Knightfox@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
A lot of this is overblown really. A few things:
- The vast majority of school kids in the US will never deal with an active shooter situation.
- 43% of school shooters in the US are themselves active students
- Only 20% of school shooting perpetrators had no affiliation to the school, meaning that ~37% of shooters were former students, teachers, or parents.
- From 1999 - 2023 there were a total of 131 school shootings, but in 2024 alone there were a reported 332 school shootings.
- These are some terrible numbers, but statistically it’s a rare thing. There are approximately 130,000 K-12 schools in the US and ~75 million students per year. If we assume all schools have the same chance of having a school shooting (they don’t) they would have a 0.2% chance that your school will have a shooting that year or 4% chance that in your k-12 years that you would be at a school shooting.
When people talk about school security in the US they often don’t consider how litigious and risk adverse the US is. You don’t lock doors, build fences, and hire security guards to protect from such a small risk chance, if they actually cared there would be a greater emphasis on mental health. No, they do these things to minimize risk, lower insurance rates, and ward off lawsuits.
The defense writes itself,
“Hey, you can’t sue us for your child’s trauma, we did everything we reasonably could to ensure that a shooter couldn’t get into the school. We built a fence, we locked the doors, we made the kids wear clear plastic book bags, we used a metal detector, we hired a guard, we expelled kids who made threats, and we called the police on people who aren’t allowed to be here. If a kid then sneaks a 3D printed plastic gun on site and traumatizes the students it’s not the school systems fault.”
The US is crazy litigious, especially if a government entity is involved and someone might get a pay day. In my area a high school girl and some similarly aged boys ran away from school while at recess to a forest a mile or two off site. The girl then said she was sexually assaulted by the two boys, called her mom and was picked up and taken to the hospital directly (never came back to the school). The school had reported the girl missing, but only found out about the sexual assault after the mother filed a police report and the police reached out. The school cooperated with the police and reached out to the girl and her mother asking if she was ok or there was anything they could do, but the mother refused to answer their (the schools) phone calls or cooperate with the police. A year later the mother sued the school, the school system, the municipal government, and the police each for several million dollars for allowing her daughter to run away from school and for not protecting her from sexual assault in an offsite location. This lawsuit went on for over a year before the judge dismissed the case.
mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
I think the most security I ever had was the gates being locked between opening and closing times. This was during primary school. Britain sucks but at least it’s not America.
cathfish@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
And we don’t have people walking around with guns (yet).
sexy_peach@feddit.org 17 hours ago
Europe has gangs and guns and whatnot. But people have more to lose I think. Something like that. Better education maybe?
Could be way better here as well
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
Hardened criminals have access to firearms but they tend to be expensive and difficult enough to get a hold of that you don’t waste them on holding up a 7-11.
But angry children and adults who just want to hurt people generally don’t.
It is why gun control works. It isn’t about getting rid of ALL guns. It is about reducing their number so that people don’t realize a year later that five of their ar-15s are missing
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
More chill, probably.
Unchecked capitalism of this degree is a stressful world to live in and it drives people insane. Fear and hate not only breeds mass shooters, it makes your random Joe shoot PoCs, delivery guys or really everyone stepping on their lawn. And it’s not racism or some other kind of hatred alone. It’s a general fear that EVERYTHING entering your comfort zone is there to fuck you over. And in the US they aren’t totally wrong, because many things we find normal in Europe, like affordable healthcare, insurance, education, etc - are traps constructed to drink you empty, not to say about how many real scams flourish there. They are in a fight or flight mode like 24/7, so it’s no wonder they shoot on sight and cheer to bigotry.
Meme/anecdote: many european listeners of Cool Zone Media podcasts were confused, while visiting US of how many advertisements to buy gold deposits were in automatic ads while there, and how agressive they were. In a sense, gold investments is a panic button you press when you gamble on everything else going down. And this particular scam, the popularity of crypto, and the power of rabid christian sects kinda says a lot about how secure regular folks feel.
I’ve never been to the US, so it’s all built on assumptions and hearsay.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
Most British schools have bars to keep the kids in.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Nasty little fuckers.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
That’s an exarregation, right?
pseudo@jlai.lu 10 hours ago
I remember the exact day they closed up the college with fences and the look on the face on the children who started to feel like prisoners. I also remember the day they started to locked all doors but one to inconvenience potential invaders in high school forcing surveillance on who’s coming and who going on grown teens.
Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Have you heard of “induced demand” courtesy of the FuckCars community?
Well, the same applies to violence.
If you have police on campus people subconsciously expect violence. It’s a self-fullfilling prophecy. The more security theatre you add, the more actual security you’ll need.
Normalizing shootings by giving them such media attention also doesn’t help, if the prospective shooter craves it. Neither does the fact that it occupies a large part of the US public consciousness.
Some kids do it because others have already, and because school shootings are such a hot media topic.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
Narrator: The problem wasn’t the kids it was the US.
Clarification: venues getting shot up is a specifically elevated problem in the US (exacerbated by availability of guns, but that’s not really the root of the problem). The thing is, the root of the problem (right-wing-leaning low-information constituents – lumpenproletariat in left-wing speak – suffering from precarity sometimes turn to violence) is being visited on European nations where two-party systems have taken root, and neoliberalism has set in. It’s the old King Log vs. King Heron problem. We’re seeing violence and counterviolence in the EU, just with less frequency and fewer guns, but it will catch up to them.
tauonite@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Shots fired
MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
The truth hurts.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 14 hours ago
I think the US military only attacks school when there students aren’t mainly white
elvith@feddit.org 13 hours ago
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
They call themself an expat that’s all I needed to hear
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
To be fair. We deserve all the smoke.
JargonWagon@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Again? When did everyone stop?
robocall@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Why is this a picture of grass?
alzjim@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
If I must
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
How big is the ocean between Europe and Russia?
umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
my favorite time!
TheBat@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Can someone tell this bitch to go back to where she came from?
hOrni@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
For those unaware, an expat is an immigrant, but white.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 17 hours ago
I always thought expats had to live in little expat communities, keeping themselves aloof from the rest of the population. It’s a level of snobbery beyond even still caring where you’re originally from. That was my understanding from all the little compounds I saw in the global south.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
ms_lane@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I think Japan also gets ‘Expat’ credentials too.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
we should call the us ones immigrants though. i think it would bother them a bit.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
Not an expat, an immigrant. I hate the term expat.
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 14 hours ago
I’ve always assumed it depends on what your context is. If your perspective is the country that the immigrant is from, then they would be an expat. If you are in context of the other country they are an immigrant.
Ie
“My friend is an expat who went off to The Netherlands.” “My friend is an immigrant that came here from The USA.”
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
We don’t want her back. Throw her into the sea and let nature take its course.