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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lily (MAGA)

    in Amsterdam

    Can someone tell this bitch to go back to where she came from?

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    • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For those unaware, an expat is an immigrant, but white.

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      • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I always thought expats had to live in little expat communities, keeping themselves aloof from the rest of the population. It’s a level of snobbery beyond even still caring where you’re originally from. That was my understanding from all the little compounds I saw in the global south.

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      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For those unaware, an expat is an immigrant, but white and racist.

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      • ms_lane@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I think Japan also gets ‘Expat’ credentials too.

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      • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        we should call the us ones immigrants though. i think it would bother them a bit.

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not an expat, an immigrant. I hate the term expat.

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      • purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’ve always assumed it depends on what your context is. If your perspective is the country that the immigrant is from, then they would be an expat. If you are in context of the other country they are an immigrant.

        Ie

        “My friend is an expat who went off to The Netherlands.” “My friend is an immigrant that came here from The USA.”

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    • kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We don’t want her back. Throw her into the sea and let nature take its course.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Who the fuck emigrates to Europe as a hardcore American fascist? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

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    • MisterOwl@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spreading the plague, as insects are wont to do.

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        As an American, I would like to apologize profusely for the rank idiocy of my fellow citizens.

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    • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We have plenty of fascists here. It’s not like the US have a monopoly. We don’t quite let them run the show yet, but we’re certainly working on it.

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      • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, but a really big part of the MAGA platform is hating on the "communist" and "woke" "yuropoors". She must really really hate it here.

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      • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The difference is that while we may have several fascists here, unlike in the US the majority are not fascists.

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      • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We have European fascists here. The point here is: why would an American fascist move to Amsterdam?

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    • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They come here to spread their culture, their ideology of violence and intolerance.

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        As an American, please enthusiastically tell any American that tries to do this to fuck all the way off and go back to our own shitty country. I don’t want us fucking up your continent too.

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      • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Europe has its own nest of fascists and they’re gaining popularity.

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    • sparky@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m an American living in the EU, and I’m surprised by that. All the other American immigrants I’ve met so far have been opposed to Trump and Republicans generally. I always figured the conservatives were likely to be buying into AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt propaganda and would thus be uninterested in moving to another country.

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    • RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Europeans invented fascism so she’s just trying to learn from the best.

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    • crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Could be a military member stationed there. A guy I work with is one of those 4chan “libertarians” and had nothing but “horror stories” about living in Germany. Same guy is terrified to venture into the local major metropolitan area or take the light rail system.

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      • notarobot@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d love to hear more

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    • Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s funny, the fascists “won” here, but they are still expatriating themselves to fuck up other people’s countries too.

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe they needed the more affordable healthcare?

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      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We need that, and healthcare that isn’t tied to our jobs, because that significantly entrenches the whole wage slavery thing.

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    • mhague@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Imagine being racist and wanting to enjoy it instead of making it political. In the US it’s culture war shit. In Europe you can go to a football match and throw bananas at the black players and it’s chill. It’s just easier to be casually racist in Europe because racism doesn’t exist there, and if it does, it’s not as bad as America.

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      • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Recently in Spain a football fan got sentenced for racist chants

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        In fairness nobody ever died from a stray banana.

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    • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, fuck off back to your own shit country if you don’t like it

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  • VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn’t your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?

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    • jdf038@mander.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah this confuses me to no end. I thought they made America great last election?

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      • ChillPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because they live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.

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      • pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Trump made it great, but Biden and woke already made it so un-great that the greatness hasn’t all trickled down yet.

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    • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      laughs in Dutch politics

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Expat” is my favourite dog whistle. Because “migrant” is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.

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    • sunbytes@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      There is technically a difference in the definition, but mostly people use it exactly as you’re describing.

      I’ve really had to catch myself when I notice myself using it.

      But honestly it’s so expected that people can get confused when you call yourself an immigrant (and you aren’t doing it to make yourself a martyr somehow).

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    • Serpent@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hate the word for the reasons you’ve said, but I know a lot of black Americans in Portugal that refer to themselves as expats.

      Feels to me that the line is drawn along economic privilege lines rather than simply race.

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      • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s also this level of like, still identifying as being primarily of the country they’re from, like a rejection of assimilation into the place they’ve moved to. I’m not saying that’s inherently good or bad, but, it’s an interesting dynamic, and an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

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    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wherever white people get mad at black people you hear the word “thug” thrown out a lot and i always wonder if they’re just using that word to substitute another one they’re not allowed to use publicly

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  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not sure yall get the joke. It’s funny cause 13- 17 year old angsty males in the us have unlimited access to military grade weapons. These bitch ass losers, I mean kids, then take these arms, designed to take out isis and sudam and murder a bunch of 5 year olds with them. Do you get it now?? It’s hilarious ! 😂 and 🤩 ♥️

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    • Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, no, no. These weapons pale in comparison to basic infantry in the modern military. Not only are they way overkill for anything a law abiding citizen should ever need for recreation, they would also be useless in the case of a 2nd Amendment related coup of the corrupt government.

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      • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Are you saying an AR-15 can’t take out an attack helicopter at 2000m??

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  • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This was a troll account. It was a Dutch guy pretending to be MAGA to point out how arrogant Europeans are. He succeed thoroughly

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  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As a Canadian, I would very much like some sort of barrier between my country and the United States. We’ve got our own brand of crazy up here and have absolutely no need to import any junk from the USA.

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    • klemptor@startrek.website ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Build a wall, make the USA pay for it

      (Kidding, mostly.)

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    • curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As an American, I hope Canada gets some sort of barrier between it and the United States.

      I would gladly go with my family and volunteer to help build it. If my family "accidentally" ends up on the Canadian side, I'd much rather stay though and help offset the crazy you have there....

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      • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean if you are there putting the last bricks in and you are standing on the north side you really don’t have much of a choice.

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  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gotta say, thats a pretty good burn.

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because we don’t have regular mass shootings in schools because we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world…or the USA in 1792.

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.

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      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels

        Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.

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      • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and “freedom”

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      • iridebikes@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora’s box.

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      • godfish@lemy.lol ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show

      Erm, wut?

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    metal detectors and xray scanning of backpacks made me feel like I was going to prison lol

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    • doingthestuff@lemy.lol ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Honestly I believe it’s to train the younger generation to accept a police state and continuous surveillance.

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can’t imagine going to school like that bro.

      Like is it scary and you always wonder if some lunatic is going to come and shoot it up or no?

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      • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean, I also worry about getting beat up by bullies… 🤷‍♂️ (its whatever, at least dying form gunshot wound is a cooler way to die than getting kicked in the face, luckily for me, neither happened (although the bullying definitely did happen, just not as violent as I imagine it could be))

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      • Knightfox@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A lot of this is overblown really. A few things:

        1. The vast majority of school kids in the US will never deal with an active shooter situation.
        2. 43% of school shooters in the US are themselves active students
        3. Only 20% of school shooting perpetrators had no affiliation to the school, meaning that ~37% of shooters were former students, teachers, or parents.
        4. From 1999 - 2023 there were a total of 131 school shootings, but in 2024 alone there were a reported 332 school shootings.
        5. These are some terrible numbers, but statistically it’s a rare thing. There are approximately 130,000 K-12 schools in the US and ~75 million students per year. If we assume all schools have the same chance of having a school shooting (they don’t) they would have a 0.2% chance that your school will have a shooting that year or 4% chance that in your k-12 years that you would be at a school shooting.

        When people talk about school security in the US they often don’t consider how litigious and risk adverse the US is. You don’t lock doors, build fences, and hire security guards to protect from such a small risk chance, if they actually cared there would be a greater emphasis on mental health. No, they do these things to minimize risk, lower insurance rates, and ward off lawsuits.

        The defense writes itself,

        “Hey, you can’t sue us for your child’s trauma, we did everything we reasonably could to ensure that a shooter couldn’t get into the school. We built a fence, we locked the doors, we made the kids wear clear plastic book bags, we used a metal detector, we hired a guard, we expelled kids who made threats, and we called the police on people who aren’t allowed to be here. If a kid then sneaks a 3D printed plastic gun on site and traumatizes the students it’s not the school systems fault.”

        The US is crazy litigious, especially if a government entity is involved and someone might get a pay day. In my area a high school girl and some similarly aged boys ran away from school while at recess to a forest a mile or two off site. The girl then said she was sexually assaulted by the two boys, called her mom and was picked up and taken to the hospital directly (never came back to the school). The school had reported the girl missing, but only found out about the sexual assault after the mother filed a police report and the police reached out. The school cooperated with the police and reached out to the girl and her mother asking if she was ok or there was anything they could do, but the mother refused to answer their (the schools) phone calls or cooperate with the police. A year later the mother sued the school, the school system, the municipal government, and the police each for several million dollars for allowing her daughter to run away from school and for not protecting her from sexual assault in an offsite location. This lawsuit went on for over a year before the judge dismissed the case.

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    • mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the most security I ever had was the gates being locked between opening and closing times. This was during primary school. Britain sucks but at least it’s not America.

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  • cathfish@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And we don’t have people walking around with guns (yet).

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    • sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Europe has gangs and guns and whatnot. But people have more to lose I think. Something like that. Better education maybe?

      Could be way better here as well

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      • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hardened criminals have access to firearms but they tend to be expensive and difficult enough to get a hold of that you don’t waste them on holding up a 7-11.

        But angry children and adults who just want to hurt people generally don’t.

        It is why gun control works. It isn’t about getting rid of ALL guns. It is about reducing their number so that people don’t realize a year later that five of their ar-15s are missing

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      • altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        More chill, probably.

        Unchecked capitalism of this degree is a stressful world to live in and it drives people insane. Fear and hate not only breeds mass shooters, it makes your random Joe shoot PoCs, delivery guys or really everyone stepping on their lawn. And it’s not racism or some other kind of hatred alone. It’s a general fear that EVERYTHING entering your comfort zone is there to fuck you over. And in the US they aren’t totally wrong, because many things we find normal in Europe, like affordable healthcare, insurance, education, etc - are traps constructed to drink you empty, not to say about how many real scams flourish there. They are in a fight or flight mode like 24/7, so it’s no wonder they shoot on sight and cheer to bigotry.

        Meme/anecdote: many european listeners of Cool Zone Media podcasts were confused, while visiting US of how many advertisements to buy gold deposits were in automatic ads while there, and how agressive they were. In a sense, gold investments is a panic button you press when you gamble on everything else going down. And this particular scam, the popularity of crypto, and the power of rabid christian sects kinda says a lot about how secure regular folks feel.

        I’ve never been to the US, so it’s all built on assumptions and hearsay.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Most British schools have bars to keep the kids in.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nasty little fuckers.

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    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s an exarregation, right?

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  • pseudo@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I remember the exact day they closed up the college with fences and the look on the face on the children who started to feel like prisoners. I also remember the day they started to locked all doors but one to inconvenience potential invaders in high school forcing surveillance on who’s coming and who going on grown teens.

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  • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Have you heard of “induced demand” courtesy of the FuckCars community?

    Well, the same applies to violence.

    If you have police on campus people subconsciously expect violence. It’s a self-fullfilling prophecy. The more security theatre you add, the more actual security you’ll need.

    Normalizing shootings by giving them such media attention also doesn’t help, if the prospective shooter craves it. Neither does the fact that it occupies a large part of the US public consciousness.

    Some kids do it because others have already, and because school shootings are such a hot media topic.

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  • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Narrator: The problem wasn’t the kids it was the US.

    Clarification: venues getting shot up is a specifically elevated problem in the US (exacerbated by availability of guns, but that’s not really the root of the problem). The thing is, the root of the problem (right-wing-leaning low-information constituents – lumpenproletariat in left-wing speak – suffering from precarity sometimes turn to violence) is being visited on European nations where two-party systems have taken root, and neoliberalism has set in. It’s the old King Log vs. King Heron problem. We’re seeing violence and counterviolence in the EU, just with less frequency and fewer guns, but it will catch up to them.

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  • tauonite@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Shots fired

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  • MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The truth hurts.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    • RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the US military only attacks school when there students aren’t mainly white

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    • elvith@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Did they fall off?

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  • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They call themself an expat that’s all I needed to hear

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  • Deflated0ne@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To be fair. We deserve all the smoke.

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  • JargonWagon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Again? When did everyone stop?

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why is this a picture of grass?

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  • alzjim@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If I must

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  • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How big is the ocean between Europe and Russia?

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    my favorite time!

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