The recent Steam censorship debacle actually sort of opened me up to adult games.

Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Apeman42@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

I’ve never really played any porn games more hardcore than Baldur’s Gate 3 before, but you remember a couple weeks ago when GOG gave away those NSFW games, as a direct response to the whole thing?

Well I claimed the bundle just to boost their numbers (because censorship is bullshit), but recently I needed a low-difficulty gaming distraction, so I checked a few of them out, and… some of them are kind of good?

Like first off you have to be okay with visual novels (usually), but if you’re cool with that, some of them actually have some compelling characters, and occasionally even good gameplay in between all the fucking and whatnot.

Leap of Love is amusing, kind of adorable when it comes to the not-sex stuff, and charming. It is also a game where you (a former frog) can marry and simultaneously bed 3 princesses and their stepmother after deposing of the evil king. My brain is still trying to reconcile this.

Huniepop is one of the best match 3 puzzle games I’ve ever played, with a chill as hell soundtrack. Also a scantily-clad foul-mouthed love fairy wants you to fuck every woman in a 5 mile radius who can fog a mirror.

And Crom help me, when I finished… sigh… Fetish Locator Week 1, I actually cared enough about some of the characters to buy the next one.

The point is, some of these games have more depth and value than I’d been led to believe, and I wouldn’t have known that if the censorship thing hadn’t started that chain of events. So congrats censorship people, and honestly thanks, I guess? Completely the opposite of your intended effect. Task failed successfully.

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Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world ⁨34⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
Your post made me want to check these out. I only ever played one with a friend for kicks and it was a fun, cheap activity to make a drinking game out of.

It’s like how erotica can still be literature, but people dismiss it for the sexual focus. But I’ve read erotic stories that had me hooked, made interesting social commentary, had nuanced characters and were just a fantastic time.

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Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
One other side point that came to mind after the main post.

We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”. But honestly, I realized I played through 3+ games without doing any violence* and had a blast, and that was actually really refreshing.

*^okay,^ ^no^ ^non-consensual^ ^violence.^ ^I^ ^may^ ^have^ ^slapped^ ^Lyssa’s^ ^dick^ ^around,^ ^but^ ^she^ ^requested^ ^it.^

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- Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  We’re so conditioned to think realistic violence in games is fine, but realistic sex in games is “wrong” or “sad”.
  
  Not just in games. In all media. You bring to mind a great quote from George R. R. Martin.
  
  “I can describe an axe entering a human skull in great explicit detail and no one will blink twice at it. I provide a similar description, just as detailed, of a penis entering a vagina, and I get letters about it and people swearing off. To my mind this is kind of frustrating, it’s madness. Ultimately, in the history of [the] world, penises entering vaginas have given a lot of people a lot of pleasure; axes entering skulls, well, not so much.”
  
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  - Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’ve always felt that puritan stigmatization of sex and sexuality have really fucked us up psychologically as a species.
    
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  - daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I remember a quote from a famous porn actor “nacho vidal”.
    
    “I’d rather have my kids playing with “fake plastic penises” around the house rather than playing with fake plastic firearms.”
    
    I’m not comfortable with the idea of kids playing with sexual toys. But it makes me feel something weird that I’m not more weirded out by kids playing to kill with fake guns.
    
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  - TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/
    
    I think onscreen chemistry peaked in Casino Royale. Now it all feels clinical/sterile.
    
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- makyo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Leading up to the release of Cyberpunk 2077 a relatively innocent post about whether players would be able to romance anyone and sleep with them. The absolute mockery and scorn OP received was shameful. It really struck me because it was so clear how we’ve been conditioned to reject sexuality while at the same time being ultra-desensitized to violence.
  
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  - moody@lemmings.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    What I do recall was one guy asking very specific questions about how much we would be able to customize genitals, and whether sex would be fully interactive with visuals of full penetration.
    
    And while none of those things are wrong per se, the general vibe of asking about all of those things was very weird and pervy.
    
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- RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It was wild being raised by my mother who didn’t mind if I saw consensual sex, because I should eventually have sex, but restricted all violence because ideally I’ll never see violence in person.
  
  I have no idea how good this is a philosophy for raising children. Sample size is too small.
  
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- Strider@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Please note that this is mostly an American thing, in European TV and books we have naked people and (not too explicit detail) sex.
  
  Some of us are always wondering about this. Something 18+ might be sex or gore related.
  
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- Carighan@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  And then you usually get "But the sex isn't realistic!!!"... yeah? Neither is the violence, unless you are frequently the Doomslayer or something?!
  
  Like, how is that even an argument. How can violence in games be preferrable to sex?!
  
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  - SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Part of the actual answer to that question is that, while violence is often loud and public (and sometimes government sanctioned on massive scales), sex is something that is usually done in private, intimate settings without observers.
    
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- SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You know that even fantasy sex is a problem to the puritan mind, even mild representations of sex like activities becomes weird. Well in the Western society that is. I found out that some temples in India are finely decorated with more or less explicit scenes. In certain societies sex is seen as an engine. The issue with violence is that it isn’t just highly but it’s nearly a constant in our western society. Go back to the middle ages, how many people whacked each other in popular imagery. Even recently we have seen more violence than ever. Gore doesn’t do much any longer for many adults, but it’s supposed to elicit a strong evolutionary reflex of disgust and fear. I feel we’ve been overexposed to these things, but not others.
  
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- Kenny2999@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  beating beats beating
  
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Wahots@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I wish there were more games that had NSFW stuff, but not as the main focus. BG3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher, etc all have nudity, but the sex scenes are short, cropped, and half assed because they are embarrassed.

There needs to be quicktime events, better cinematics, and werewolves (BG3, Elder Scrolls, Witcher) during erotic scenes. Bring back A/O games. Many of these shouldn’t be even remotely aimed at anyone below 18 anyways.

Hell, the last genuinely fun game with kink in it was Saints Row 3, and that was for comedic effect.

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- dyc3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  
  quicktime events
  
  Damn I missed the cumshot quick time event. I’m not going to get an s rank for this chapter. Guess I gotta reload…
  
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  - towerful@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Imagine the debuff that blueballs would inflict because you missed the quicktime event
    
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tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Not directly to your point but your overall experience just reminds me: we really lose something when the sexual liberation movement were largely erased. People so often dismiss it because we’re conditioned to dismiss taking sex seriously (outside of a very narrow and specific context) but there’s a lot we lose from that.

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- dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨56⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  Was it erased? We are more comfortable with porn than ever (which I wouldn’t say is okay, but definitely not prudish), and after the jews, the biggest boogie man out there is the gender lobby.
  
  I say we’re in the next phase, and moderators (Visa, Mastercard) need to buckle up for what’s coming.
  
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  - tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    We are more comfortable with porn than ever
    
    Are we? No-Nut November has only recently dipped in the general consciousness and goon is currently tending as a pejorative. I think we’re comfortable with pushing the boundaries and with nodding and winking towards it but outright normalization has a fierce backlash.
    
    But part of what the sex. lib. movement was about was both normalization and healthy interaction with sex, not just sexual content being prevalent. There’s plenty of unhealthy ideas and performances that the mainstream porn industry perpetuates, much of it relying on satisfying a normative and patriarchal outlook; feminist porn, for example, was/is a much more sex. lib. approach to porn (from giving women more active participation in the sex portrayed (rather than just the receptive of it) to also having the performers express their emotions more (even if minimally) and how the sex they were having made them feel).
    
    These goals are much more in line with the emotional experience OP was describing, where it’s not just sexual content but a more healthy engagement with that sexual content as well, such as experiencing emotions and attachment. That’s part of why OP’s descriptions reminded me of it.
    
    Mainstream porn, driven by capitalism (which isn’t to say all of us aren’t in some degree, even indie creators; sadly, that’s just the reality, right now), doesn’t care about these things.
    
    And sex. lib. has a distinct history and activism, much of intertwined with gay liberation and…I think most people don’t know that or, like, the battles that were fought for information about safe sex, etc. I mean, it’s not unique (most people aren’t aware about disability history, for example, or events like the Capital Crawl) but it’s still deeply unfortunate.
    
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PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I never paid attention to adult games until all this controversy happened. The Streisand effect must be doing its thing on people.

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Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If you’re looking for a platformer I’d recommend Flipwitch - Forbidden Sex Hex

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- burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Man, you’re mean. You can’t recommend that without at least a warning of the box of tissues that you’ll need nearby. You’ll be responsible for water stains on desks everywhere.
  
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- ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Flipwitch is a fantastic little Metroidvania that I can’t talk to my “normal” gaming friends about.
  
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ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Modding is a way to add some adult content to some games. For example, Bethesda’s games have a very active modding community.

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- Gloomy@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  Ai, loverslab comes to mind. Used that to kink the hell out of Sims back in the day.
  
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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve always been open to adult only games, but for the vast majority there are only two basic types:

Visual Novels - Everything about these is fine. They vary from basically just a graphic novel to a full on RPG.

Nude Puzzles - Various cheap-ass puzzles with nude images as the prize.

I want, like, a real game but with full adult only content. These exist, but are hard to find. And a lot of those I’ve found aren’t finished, never will be finished, and/or just suck. It doesn’t even have to be the focus. Just imagine if when you got a hooker in GTA or some other game where brothels might exist, you got to see more than a fade to black/car bouncing around.
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- tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  You may have come across it already but Hardcoded may be in the realm you’re thinking? store.steampowered.com/app/2693710/HARDCODED/
  
  It’s still in development but they’ve done a ton of work on it too, already, be pretty flashed out game and its development hasn’t slowed any over the years.
  
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- CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The biggest issue with adult content in games is that it limits your market to adults that want that content. Which is already small to begin with. And you often can’t advertise the same way, which limits your audience further. You only find out about them through word of mouth or through places like Lemmy.
  
  From the standpoint of the developer, your ROI is likely to be very small. I think that’s why VN are the most popular form of adult games, since they are easier to make than full games.
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Its inherently a gamble. Yes, it limits you to that audience (which is increasingly villified by christofacists and the influencers who “don’t want people to think they are gooners”). But it also makes you the king OF that audience.
    
    Subspace is a great example. It had an incredibly vague and over ambitious crowdfunding campaign and it did gangbusters. Because people are hungry for a horny game that is actually a game. That said, it feels like other devs realized that was a thing and the patreon-style sites are now the main focus and discoverability went to zero.
    
    Which is why I think the next big step is a blogsite that actually covers these without feeling like you are just reading a guy’s wank diary (… which we kind of are but it is nice to not think about that). Its the same problem onlyfans et al have. The biggies keep getting bigger but there is almost zero way to find out about the newbies.
    
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- Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  A good H-game with more that 4 hours of content, good porn, and good gameplay are rare finds. Not to mention the pain in the ass of finding the decensor patches or using a non-Steam, non-English site to buy it.
  
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- Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  That seems like a fair assessment of the current state of things, but I do want to stress how good Huniepop is as a puzzle game alone. One sparkling jewel in a sea of erotic sliding puzzle and jigsaw crap.
  
  If you removed everything outside the actual gem matching gameplay and soundtrack, I would still play it.
  
  And yeah, I started poking around and saw some of the more ambitious open world projects like you’re talking about, and they all looked like abandoned early access. But if they have the technical ability, why not show my character licking some Asari ladyparts in Mass Effect 5? Adults play a shitload of video games too. Make it an optional DLC if you have to.
  
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- Landless2029@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Last game I played that fit this bill was 7 Sins
  
  This was back in the 2000s and I was super into The Sims. I still think the gameplay holds up well.
  
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- Carighan@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yeah the exceptions are rare, and then many like HuniePop 1 and 2 or Subverse lean intentionally into overdone slapstick.
  
  (That being said HuniePop I can't recommend enough, easily the best match-3 out there completely ignoring the porn parts)
  
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ninth_plane@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The more people play and buy porn games, the better porn games will get, same as any other genre.

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Kovukono@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
If you’re open to a platformer, the only explicitly adult game I’ve tried is FlipWitch. The gimmick is that you can change your sex, with certain obstacles only able to be passed through by a specific sex. You also have clothing that can only be worn by each sex, and certain NPCs won’t interact unless you’re wearing certain items. It’s a solid metroidvania, and while it’s not going to blow you away, I still enjoyed my time with it.

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- Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The music is really good too!
  
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TheFermentalist@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
WoohooOoooOooOoOo…. Barbara Streisand

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Goretantath@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Welcome to the club! Theres tons of Japanese eroge that became anime like Fate. Just because theres sexy time, don’t mean the story aint a banger either!

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- Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Oh right, I have actually heard that about Fate. I never played any of the games, but I caught a lot of Unlimited Blade Works when my wife was watching it, and it seemed pretty solid.
  
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- burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I’ve still got the original visual novels sitting on my backup drive, somewhere. I played through the major first storyline, but hadn’t gotten around to UBW and… oh boy, heaven’s something? Definitely was a great read, even after starting with the anime.
  
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HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Literally, for the plot. Glad you where abel to expand your horizons and hope you enjoy more games for the plot

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AnotherSmutAccount@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
When you got attached to the characters in Fetish Locator you should definitely not play Leap of Faith. It’s going to crush you emotionally.

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- Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Thanks for the warning. I’d started playing because I needed a distraction from some hard IRL stuff, so that’s good to know. It was nice that when I fired up Being a DIK from the same bundle, they straight out ask you at the beginning if you’re going through shit right now, and gently suggest the game may be rough for you if you are.
  
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  - ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Adult games give emotional support these days. Not all, but many understand and respect the player to a degree not normally found in games. And because all the right wing puritans aren’t playing those games, no one is complaining about other hot button topics like gender, equality, etc.
    
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  - AnotherSmutAccount@lemmynsfw.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    LoF does the same mid game right before it hits the hardest with even offering to skip the scene entirely. However all characters are really likable, have some really good development and it is an overall (bitter)sweet story with lots of happy endings
    
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  - Philokins@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    when I fired up Being a DIK from the same bundle, they straight out ask you at the beginning if you’re going through shit right now, and gently suggest the game may be rough for you if you are.
    
    Considering the dev’s previous game, Acting Lessons, that warning is worth taking seriously. That game has a fantastic story, but it has some rough shit go down. Although I will say that by the end of season 1 of Being a ΔΙΚ I don’t think there had been much “rough if you’re going through some shit” stuff. I haven’t played season 2 yet.
    
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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Streisand effect.

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leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
congratulations on starting your journey with adult games!

i’ve found my way to it via visual novels. my initial thought were like they’re almost the same as any “teenage-romance book” but with more interaction so what could go wrong, right?

totally agree with you that there’s a lot of stigma going on around sexuality that makes people miss out on good games.

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Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I despise visual novels.

They lack the good writing of a proper novel.

They lack the art work a comic can provide.

They aren’t games, but are for some reason sold as one.

They a sub-par mix of things other mediums do significantly better.

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- jeff@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  There are novels that don’t measure up to the writing of visual novels.
  
  There are comics that don’t measure up to the art of visual novels.
  
  There are video games that are less engaging than visual novels.
  
  Broad generalizations like this are so useless. It’s okay that you play one or two visual novels and they weren’t for you. I don’t particularly like visual novels either, but to discredit an entire genre because of it is just ignorant. I’ve played some visual novels that were excellent and pushed the boundaries of video games. See Slay the Princess and Doki Doki Literature Club. I’m playing Date Everything right now, it’s not exactly innovative, but I’m having fun with it.
  
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  - Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    That’s a load of crap. Visual novels are such an incredibly low bar on literally every front, if you made a comic or a novel that’s worse than a VN you’d have been actually trying to out-shit VNs.
    
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cccrontab@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I too claimed the games to support the cause. I randomly chose Treasure of Nadia to start and found myself really enjoying the game and story. I just finished it last week and went on to buy the developers other titles (⁀ᗢ⁀).

I’ll have to give the other titles a try soon!

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marduk@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
y.yarn.co/36cf02d5-8922-4467-9c12-49d4c87d0cbf_te…

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Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah nah there is no gameplay there its pure coomer shit. Match 3 puzzle game, thats not a genre the only games that use that has their core gameplay are designed to be scams.

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- Apeman42@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s certainly what the majority of the genre became with the advent of mobile gaming, as with so many other simple puzzle games. But the original Bejeweled and Puzzle Quest were both excellent and huge hits, and were complete games before the microtransaction garbage that came later.
  
  It’s a nice genre for relaxing and turning off your brain, similar to a Tetris or a Bust-A-Move. I know there have to be titty and microtransaction filled variants of both of those, does it invalidate them as puzzle game genres?
  
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  - CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I played peggle on wow flight paths for hundreds of hours. Sad and fantastic lol.
    
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  - SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I remember seeing a large bejeweled cabinet in a service station back in 2009. Or around that age. What a beast.
    
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  - Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah coomer games are similar to mobile games. Theyre puzzle games that are designed to be extremely easy to make players feel good. They are technically still puzzle games just bad ones.
    
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- Feyd@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  only games I like count as games!
  
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- burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Maybe the match 3 stuff, but there are a lot of ‘adult’ games that are beyond that. Go play The Last Sovereign and tell me it isn’t better than all the final fantasies, I dare you.
  
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