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The average age of Disney princesses is 505y.

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  • SunshineJogger@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Alice in wonderland isn’t a princess tho.

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dating for american presidents be like:

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not usually one to care about how a meme is cropped but… goddamn lol

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    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      those random Korean letters at the bottom are absolutely critical to the meme and had to be included

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  • Frostbeard@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why the concept of statistical outlier and standard deviation exists.

    Had I seen something like this in any analysis I would either assume some fault in the measurement (either reading or technical) or error in punching the data. Then ignored the result if it couldn’t be reproduced, but leave it in the raw data/graph/figure and explain the exlution.

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    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Heck, even opting for median age over the mean would work in this case!

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  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m surprised that the Frozen sisters are 21 and 24. I thought they were closer in age, and younger.

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Funny enough that frozen is always shown in school, but they never finished it. They always play like about 45 minutes of class time duing holidays where there is no classwork to do. Already finished school by now and I’mma just google the plot lol

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m surprised that the Frozen sisters are 21 and 24. I thought they were closer in age, and younger.

      I can’t help but notice the earlier entries are tagged as younger when there’s no real notable age gap between, say, Jasmine and Elsa. Jane Porter, from Tarzan, could easily be in her late-20s/early-30s. Aurora and Cinderella could be anywhere from a very mature 16 to a slightly immature 24 (if their birthdays weren’t a pivotal part of their plots, anyway). Mulan is punching way above her weight class at age 16. Esmerelda could pass as early 30s, easily, just on her mannerism and professional talent.

      The only one that really works at this age bracket is Alice.

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      • phx@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not sure Alice would even qualify as a Disney Princess, unless there’s some lineage I’m unaware of. She’s already one of the few without some sort of romantic subplot.

        Mulan… Aristocracy with a royal award maybe, but not really royalty either.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How is Pocahontas only 18 and that bottom left one already 19?

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    • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bottom left is Tiana, from Princess and the Frog. They definitely choose a frame where her head is rounder than normal…

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  • TheKingBombOmbKiller@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I didn’t realize Mulan was a child soldier until now.

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  • heisenbergcrystalmeth@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How old is Stitch?

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    • Oka@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stitch is assigned male

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      • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Still a princess.

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      • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Some people want to fuck the princes answer the question

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  • nonentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Alien Xenomorphs can live for millennia, and they’ve been technically eligible as Disney princesses since March 2019.

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    • fritobugger2017@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Even Max Klinger is technically eligible.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Esmeralda being 18 is throwing me for a loop. Idk why. All the other ones I can get past looks because they’re all meant to be young (and many have ages stated) but I literally never once viewed Esmeralda as a teenager in the movie. Early 20s maybe. Maybe they mentioned it and I forgot.

    Crazy movie though. Frolo is so fucked.

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  • morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    … Esmeralda isn’t a princess tho

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or Belle or Jane.

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      • morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Belle marries nobility

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      OP forgot to capitalize the P.

      To be included in the Disney Princess line, a character must be a protagonist or main supporting character in an animated theatrical film produced by a studio owned by The Walt Disney Company that is the first film in its franchise (thus excluding characters introduced in sequels, direct-to-video films and television series), must be human in her standard form and in general should be a princess by way of either marriage to a prince or through herself descending from a monarch or tribal chief. Exceptionally heroic characters who do not have a royal title can also be included.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Princess

      The list of official princesses kept changing over time, mainly because new characters were added to the list as new movies emerged. Still, three princesses were removed from it in 2005: Tinker Bell, Esmeralda, and Jane Porter. The reasons why they made the list in the first place are not entirely clear since they are neither main characters in their films nor do they have royal heritage.

      […] In Esmeralda’s case, the reason was that the sales of The Hunchback of Notre Dame products were not going as Disney had hoped, and the character was not as popular with the audience.

      movieweb.com/official-disney-princess-rules/

      But as the reply said, Alice is not a Disney Princess nor a princess.

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That would exclude Mulan

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    • Jerb322@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nor Alice…

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep, Alice is the only one on here (as far as I care to investigate) that has never been part of the Disney Princess brand. Jane and Esmeralda both used to be until 2005. See my reply to the comment you’re replying to for more information if you’re curious.

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  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Okay, but Kidagakash skews the average so sharply that she's proof of the need for weigthing.

    Also, are Alice & Jane actually considered princesses? Jane is Lady Greystone and I could accept her for that, but Alice is just a kid. And if direct adaptations count, why not Wendy? Why not Tiger Lily (who counts if Pocahontas does)? Or Dejah Thoris, the titular "Princess of Mars"?

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    • dvlsg@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Needs more Kuzco.

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Damn it, Princess Georg

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  • Naz@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like the 8800 year old :>

    Got that multiple millennia of wisdom while still being 22 physiologically somehow simultaneously

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    • Frostbeard@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not seen the movie but I assume she behaves like a 22 yo as well?

      That’s one of the many things that threwe with LotR Rings of Power was how Galadriel behaved like a teen while being between 3,412 and 5,353 years old.

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      • CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well yeah, rings of power is corporate fanfiction, it’s not the galadriel JRRT wrote

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  • omniman@piefed.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i want to crack 5th one

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  • Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow, I better stop jerking it to Jasmine. 🤷

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Probably legal where she’s from. 🤢

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      • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, Ahgrabah is crazy

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    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pocahontas is also younger than labeled. IIRC she was like 17 when she was forced into marrying a tobacco farmer. She died only a few years later.

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      • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        the chart is referring to Disney characters not “real” people

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    • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, that one was the one that surprised me. I would have guessed she was supposed to be late 20s.

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      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        she’s mature for her age

        1000001906

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  • mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    nope, it’s 17.5. and also 16.

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  • miraclerandy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image This still is killing me. Why is this so funny? All the others look like good images of the characters!

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      😐

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    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is just how people with Scottish blood look when you take photos of them, my source is my family photo album.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        so what you’re saying is that if i raid a scottish blood bank i’ll look funny on the security cameras when leaving the building?

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      • Rusty@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And if you take a picture with a flash, they get a sunburn.

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      • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Frazzled and caught slightly unprepared?

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    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Image

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  • v_krishna@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    IRL Pocahontas was like 11 or 12.

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    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Her actual age is unknown, due to nobody knowing what year she was born. But estimates put her at around 17 when she was taken hostage and forcibly married to a tobacco farmer.

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  • BingBong@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Who is left third row from bottom and right second row from bottom?

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    • moakley@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Esmeralda from Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Jane from Tarzan.

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    • FloatingAlong@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Esmeralda from Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Jane from Tarzan, I think.

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  • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Rya is missing.

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  • BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Jane is considered a disney princess ?

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who here forgot Disney even made Tarzan? ✋

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      • BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Even knowing that Disney made Tarzan, Jane doesn’t “feel” like a Disney princess.

        You know who feels like a Disney princess but isn’t ? Anastasia !

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  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Alice is only a princess in Kingdom Hearts lore.

    Merida is technically Pixar. She’s like a step-Princess.

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    • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      By the time that Brave was made, Pixar was a wholly owned subsidiary of Disney. That’s a distinction without a difference.

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      • Xatolos@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        By this logic then Sally from the Nightmare Before Christmas should also be a Disney princess since Touchstone Pictures was wholly owned by Disney.

        All hail Disney Princess Sally!

        Image

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    • Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Alice is only a princess in Kingdom Hearts lore.

      Meanwhile Ariel just chills in her world in KH1. Really wonder why they made that choice.

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      • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        She would die if she’s being kept like the other princess.

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      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I guess Maleficent didn’t want to fill one of the princess of heart containers with saltwater.

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      • RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        they didn’t want to model a mermaid wheelchair for her to go around on the other land-based worlds

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Which reminds me, where’s Leia?

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      • lime@feddit.nu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        or the Alien?

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  • socsa@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A perfect example of why median exists

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    • Ethanol@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Percentile gang, let’s go! 😎 \

      The median, or 50th percentile, here would be 17 or 18, meaning 50% of the princesses are aged 17 or lower, and 50% are aged 18 or higher.

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    • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nah, it’s the perfect example of why the median is a pathetic excuse of a statistical tool that is only used by those that wish to opress minorities

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      • neatchee@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What the fuck are you talking about?

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    • WillFord27@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Easy mistake, her name is Merida. Not sure what she’s a perfect example of though?

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  • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is Alice 10 in Disney? In Lewis Carroll’s original work she is 8.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They aged her up so it would be less creepy

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      • j4k3@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What is creepy about it? The entire story is really about Alice discovering rules and how she likes them so much. That is very much the world of an 8 year old. Not to mention all of the fanciful characters and tropes that were dreamed up.

        There are many academic critiques and studies of the work. It is also central to Open AI’s QKV layers model alignment training. The story is the primary catalyst for creative randomness in terms of internal model thinking in both LLMs and embedding models used in image diffusion. For instance, all of the mechanisms that Alice used to become bigger and smaller are present in diffusion AI models with the caveat that no real person place or thing is present in the prompt. One does not need to bring up the detailed context of the story if one prompts the element with good specificity. A far easier method to play with is to prompt the queen of hearts or Alice as a character in an image using just a foundational base model. It should be quite clear how these images are a bit different in many ways. Those differences are not random and they are persistent across all models. Literary nonsense is the actual randomness that shows up in background objects and clothing in images. Prompting against the abstraction of genre is far more effective than attempting to describe your own details in the prompt with specificity.

        In literature in general, Carroll’s work is the holotype for a genre. Analysing the work speaks to the human experience on many levels. The work has long been appreciated by all ages. So I am a bit baffled about what you find creepy about age in any context such as this. Like what kind of assumptions do you possibly feel grounded in here?

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      • bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m gonna need a source for that 'cause, like, they weren’t really concerned about creepiness back in the 60s from what I can tell.

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  • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mulan was too cool.

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    • potoo22@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Mulan has the highest kill count… I think

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      • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The avalanche definitely ups her count some.

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  • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wasnt Snow White in a magical sleep for like a hundred or so years?

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    • DacoTaco@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Youre thinking of sleeping beauty, not snow white

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  • bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wtf movie is the 8800 from? That and the top right are the only characters I don’t recognize.

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