Vim doesn’t care if it’s running in Linux or Windows or macOS
da penguin!!!
What’s even the appeal of Linux?
Submitted 1 day ago by moseschrute@lemmy.ml to [deleted]
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bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Number one, I get to tell people that I use Arch. I could anyway, but this way I’m not lying.
Number two, it’s not Micro$oft or Crapple.
Number three, living in my mother’s basement isn’t as cost effective as I was hoping it’d be so free helps immensely.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
If I did daily drive Linux I would probably use arch or Nixos so I could flee
Broadfern@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
GladiusB@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh, now this is a shitpost.
FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 5 hours ago
Wanted to reply until I saw its a shitpost… You nearly had me :D
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
But I also do spend 8 hours a work day coding in Vim not on Linux. Just to clarify, I’m also not using Windows (gross).
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
- Lighter
- Better on weaker hardware
- More options how you set up your system: Desktop Environments/Window Managers.
- Free and Open Source (so no paying out the arse for Windows).
- More Software options.
- Better Security.
- No monitoring by your OS provider.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Seriously, do people pay for windows? I’ve transitioned one copy I got on my laptop a dozen years ago through a few separate pc builds. And duplicated another key, which was quite easy
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
do people pay for windows?
Yes. When you buy your computer, the cost of Windows is added onto the computer’s cost. Just for context, a Dell XPS 13 Laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled is £1,149.01, with Windows it’s £1,199.00. When you get the chance to have Linux preinstalled or even just have no OS pre installed, you find it’s cheaper than having Windows Preinstalled.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Makes dumb people feel smart.
Gives people who lack agency in life something they use to look down on others, despite no one caring.
For a tiny majority that have them. It is a useful red flag for your loved ones, that the slide of mental illness continues.
They secretly desire to be seen as hackers by others; reality is they are hacks.
They lack the ability to enjoy self deprecating humor.
The inky blackness of terminal screens to sates their inner emo.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
LOL me writing this, using neovim and a split keyboard to make me feel smart. There is definitly some truth to this. But I never look down upon people for not using the technology I choose. People on here can be really annoying. It’s like the virtue signaling Linux.
kadup@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Makes dumb people feel smart
The entirety of bioinformatics runs on Linux. I doubt you’d be able to clear an entry level exam to join a bioinformatics program.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
They are all downvoting my shit comment to a shitpost, so they’re all proving it correct.
Most people who use Linux don’t tie their personality to it. I’ve long suspected that Lemmy has few of those.
60d@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Thought about downvoting, then realized it is top-tier.
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 14 hours ago
Well, you actually own it for one, given Linux is an open platform, you’re generally not at some corporation’s will unlike with closed platforms like Windows or even macOS, you’re also not arbitrarily locked out of running it on hardware made before a certain date unlike with Win11; as long as the kernel supports it, it should run on your hardware, where Windows arbitrarily locks out anything older than Zen+ or Kaby Lake without a modded install medium starting with Win11, and it generally uses less resources than Windows nowadays although that varies based on configuration.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 hours ago
No spyware, much better performance and wear on your hardware. Actual control over your devices. The downside is, linux is complicated and a pain to learn how to use or maintain. Windows is easy to use but so is a vtech laptop which is essentiallly the trade off. It used to be that windows was easy to use and open as a platform, but microsoft is doing everything in its power to ruin windows. The modern developers also really suck and the modern codebase is buggy as hell. The OS kills your harddisks and ssds, even before the new broekn update because they are constantly scanning your files to send signitures to palantir or whatever. They are removing basic functionality and a few years from now I imagine you wont even be allowed to close or open apps, like with Android. It will just be full of ads and spyware and you will have to pay a subscription to use it or something. People have been jumping ship because at this point continuing to use windows is just going to make your life painful in the future.
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
linux is complicated
windows is easy
Speak for yourself there mate lol
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 hours ago
Linux is objectivly hard to use. Sure if you use it everyday for years and years and memorize all the commands and stuff, you can probably figure out most stuff without searching, but as someone who has only been using Linux for a few years, and is a mere amature C++ programmer, installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process, that requires a snack and a nap afterwards, with a maybe 50% success rate. Just adding a script to autorun at boot was something that took me a few hours and probably dozens of lines of shell. Im moving to debian soon though, which should maybe help since i dont have to deal with containers and and overlay filesystem and all that nonsense. Linux really needs to lean into UI development, simplicity, and intutitve design. I still struggle to find files in linux without links. KDE has come a long way in recent years. I can now do things like scale my screen size without hours of research. Linux will never become mainstream unless the typical user can do nearly everything without ever touching the shell. That has always been the thing that has held Linux back besides game compatability. Now that valve is finally creating a more normie friendly version of linux with game compatability and a sort of complete UI. It might actually overtake windows. Its still a massive pain in the ass compared to windows, double click an exe or msi to install your software. If i need to find a file on Windows, indont even need a search function. I can just find it in less then a minute. Linux definitly has some big flaws and bad design decisions.
fodor@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
I find Linux far easier to use than anything else because most decent distros come with all the software I want, or it is trivial to install, and it’s all free.
Most of that software is available for Apple or Windows, but it’s a PITA to install. Giant waste of time. And money, of course. And of you install Windows, you gotta manually disable all the shit advertising.
All of that without needing the command line, even.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
MacOS software is extremely easy to install. Drag package icon from mounted drive (with auto popup) to Applications.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
What you’re used to is easy, what you don’t know is hard. People are creatures of habit and don’t like change.
Nothing new here.
Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Vim does care, but it doesn’t want to hurt your feelings.
Vi also cares, but not about feelings.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
What does tmux think?
Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Tmux is feelings and empathy rolled into the terminal multiplexer we never knew we needed.
scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Multiplexing
moleverine@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
What finally pushed me over the edge was when I was trying to fix something in Windows and it said I couldn’t access that part of the OS. Bitch, you work for me, not the other way around. I’ve flopped back and forth between Linux and Windows for decades and just decided that anything I couldn’t do in Linux I just wouldn’t do. So far, I haven’t really encountered anything. With how much of my average computing is done in a browser these days, Firefox doesn’t really care which OS it’s running on.
kerm@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It depends on the user. If you’ll install GNU/Linux distribution as a nooby, choose some easy distribution - most probably it will install a lot of bloatware, and possibly could be unstable… But if you’ll go into details and learn the basic you could install some better distro, which you will install manually, and you will install all you need, no bloat. If you will, here are the perks:
- Stability (it also depends on your hardware… NVIDIA for example is pretty bad, but Intel or AMD is great. Must be better stability than on Windows, if you’ll not fk up)
- Performance (since you installed everything by yourself, and you will have no bloat, telemetry and etc. you will run the OS with great performance)
- Security (vulns on big distros are getting fixed fastly, and there are less vulns than on Windows, also less viruses you could get on a desktop)
- Customizability (you could change anything you want, desktop environment, sometimes init system, pretty much anything but it depends on a distro and your skills)
Me, as a… I would say half a professional GNU/Linux user, would recommend Void Linux for half-experienced or experienced user, because I like the runit init system and the stability, even though it’s rolling model.
But for a newbie… I don’t know. All of them I tried - they had problems. So it’s better to either endure, either start from a not-so-hard distro like Void Linux.
TootSweet@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I’m glad I noticed what community this was posted in before I responded.
CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Gaming. I know Steam has done a lot for Linux gaming but most game developers focus on Windows.
Not all games run on Linux and some require extra steps. Some wont run on Linux, period. Driver supports and new features are always windows first.
Some people use other store fronts, other than Steam. It is a pain to run them on Linux. there are several launchers on Linux but they don’t work for all games and support is not consistent.
For gaming, it is still windows, not Linux or Mac OS.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Vim is kinda like a game. Except instead of a, s, w, d its h, j, k, l
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 22 hours ago
It's free and runs stuff good.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Linux does not care if the user is still in the vim age or has already progressed to good editors.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 20 hours ago
Exactly, like neovim for example.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
Ok I lied. I don’t actually use vim, I use neovim. But I don’t daily drive Linux or windows, and vim does kinda unify my local editing vs ssh experience. So only 50% a shitpost.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
…like?
Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Nearly everything that edits text. Maybe with the lone exception of edlin or sed.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Nerds back in the 90s read a bunch of headlines about Microsoft being evil and made hating Microsoft their personality. These nerds now use Linux but also use shit like Google and Twitter that has fucked up society worse than Microsoft ever could.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I genuinely cannot imagine having my head this far up my own ass.
fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
If I had that severe a lack of imagination I’d keep it to myself.
altphoto@lemmy.today 1 day ago
After this last windows 10 update, now windows hangs on cryptographic service. There’s no fix for this shit and no hope to fixing my computer… My HDD…but I restart boot my default OS Linux on its own SSD from Grub. If I want to go suffer I reboot into the piece of shit windows system. So that’s the appeal of Linux.
yaroto98@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Everyone ends up going back to windows for the better user experience anyway. Which is why Linux is an acronym for Linux Is Not UX (user experience).
Twakyr@feddit.org 22 hours ago
Yes, windows is definitely the king of user experience, with no other os I had the privilege of being able to max out my ram in idle while having Microsoft and google spy on my every move… the ui is another thing, who doesn’t love to have an inconsistent ui, you have to pay for to customise it :3
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I know I’m a weirdo, but I prefer the terminal, that’s why I made the switch to Linux from windows 17 years ago.
thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
It’s free. What is vim?
Supervisor194@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
An Emacs clone.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
A bad emacs clone
ddplf@szmer.info 21 hours ago
it’s like visual studio bro
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
I honestly don’t know. Every OS has its goods & bads. But generally I think it just comes down to whatever’s available. Personally, I use:
Windows on my work laptop (because that’s what they gave me),
MacOS on my personal laptop (because I like it),
Ubuntu on my home automation / media server (because it was free).AA5B@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Similar here but in reverse
- macOSX on my work laptop
- windows n my home laptop
- raspbian and Ubuntu on my home servers
- but realistically most of my non-work activity is on iOS
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
- macOS on my work laptop. As an app developer this is my only option
- macOS on my personal laptop. As an app developer this is my only option
- raspbian on my home server
- daily drive iOS
- I dabble in Android on the side, but mostly just to test my apps
But I pretty much just need Tmux, Neovim, and a browser for 80% of my work and I’m happy. 10% of that is running an XCode build and the other 10% is macOS and iOS working really nicely together.
Tedesche@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
It’s supposedly easier to breath with your nose angled that high up in the air.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
Yes, but the air is also thinner up here
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Extra work
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
That when I eventually get sound working again I can feel good about fixing something. One month now without sound and having to use Windows. Will probably have to reinstall because I’ve tried everything that could find on the internet to fix it without success.
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
But with Linux, you can init=/bin/vim
Why settle for running vim on your os when vim can just be your os?
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 49 minutes ago
✨EXACTLY✨