America bombs a country - Great military action
Country attacks back - Insurgent act of terrorism
no way right
Submitted 9 months ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to [deleted]
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CalipherJones@lemmy.world 9 months ago
tatterdemalion@programming.dev 9 months ago
Welp, I guess we didn’t need a terrorist attack to justify war with Iran after all.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
A rorist attack, thank you very much.
Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Operation Northwoods. They were plannning false flags as long as the CIA has existed
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
FYI, Israelis aren’t allowed to leave Israel now, because playing the victim card requires using them as human shields. 9/11 was greatest US empire boost over Americans in history, and DNC firmly backs war and empire enslavement of Americans.
fox2263@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s why right wing social media is going had on making Iran the bad guys and evil.
So even though they don’t want war and are currently complaining about the thought of it, they’ll bend over for it in short time.
The mental gymnastics will be amazing.
Gotta save money. Government needs to cut everything including any social care. But also needs to spend more on deporting babies with cancer.
And you know moving an expeditionary force around the world isn’t cheap either.
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The money goes to the war hawks, not the teenagers that actually end up fighting and dying. That’s why it keeps happening. People in power put a price and bodies and they’re entirely happy with the payout. Doesn’t cost them a drop of sweat, an inkling of blood, a modicum of effort. Just sign here and unleash those kids to the grinder. Sweet sweet money comes from their deaths. How honorable.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Is that why he said he will declare his decision in two weeks, they need time to set it up
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Everything is ‘2 weeks’. It’s the only time frame he gives. Probably read somewhere that the news cycle is only 2 weeks so he thinks everyone will forget by then. (They will.)
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 9 months ago
I’m assuming that it’ll be some property of Trump’s that has recently had its insurance significantly bumped.
Trump gets his excuse and the insurance payout and his rabid supporters get further evidence of his exceptionalism.
ICastFist@programming.dev 9 months ago
Suicide bomber bombs the entrance of one of his golf courses, trump immediately nukes Teehran
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Yes. Not only that, but to pave the way for Trumps third, fourth, eight terms, and a sweeping presidential powers bill to coast through Congress that makes Patriot Act look like the Bill of Rights.
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 9 months ago
i dont really feel he has two full terms in him, but thats probably just wishful thinking on my part
FuckFascism@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Kratos is a terrorist?
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Kratos is Hamas.
Stern@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Arguable for his time under Ares, but the freedom fighter and terrorist line gets blurry when fighting a regime and he’s fought two, Greek and Norse.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Well… yeah.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
Almacca@aussie.zone 9 months ago
If we’re lucky, they’ll blow up Mar-a-lago.
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Imagine if Trump got individually 9/11ed
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
The white house? Woth no designated survivor?
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
Iran, I will let you murder me for the gay if you stop them from doing it.
ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Broke: murder for the money Woke: murder for the gay
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
hell i’m not gay and i’ll let them murder me for the gay as blood payment in the scenario you describe. tbh i’m really not sure how murder politics works.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Proof?
breecher@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
OP has made a prediction. Which amounts to a personal opinion. How on Earth do you expect anyone to show proof of that? That is not how anything works.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Easy, if they are soooo sure of their prediction of a false flag attack, then they could:
Provide in what way it might happen and when and the why with a carefully explained summary
What puts they have as a result of the expected second order effects from the prediction (Ie, balls deep on Raytheon, etc) as they are super sure of betting against the future of certain companies and betting on favor of the future of others
And what trades have they done to benefit themselves financially in the events of the supposed prediction.
And if the prediction didn’t happen (Ie, the false flag attack) then we can surely say the native language of op is not only poppycock, but with a major on makeup bullshit as well
The failed investments would only compound on the shame for op and hopefully teach them a lesson in predictions
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 months ago
just wait a couple weeks
it’s a prediction,
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Need more exact dates dude.
Show your trades, where are your puts?
Put the money where your mouth is
gamer@lemm.ee 9 months ago
My parents’ feeds are already getting flooded with videos about how evil and scary Iran is
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 months ago
manufacturing consent.
if you have no morals, it is a good time to invest in Raytheon
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
robocall@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s always a good time to invest in Raytheon
robocall@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m pretty sure Americans are gobbling up the media narrative of “Iran has nukes and the girls aren’t educated”
pyre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
they’re more educated than americans but let’s allow that get in the way of a good ol’ war on brown people
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Something like 70% of gradates in STEM fields in Iran are women. Their economy can’t absorb the skilled labors because of the sanctions though, but that is their goal: To hinder democracy and a middle class that wouldn’t want to sell out to the west. What the US and Israel is doing is meant to do the opposite of what leftists want for Iran. And war is certainly not going to make any of this better.
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 months ago
They don’t educate the girls. that makes it ethical to nuke the girls.
Westoid warmongering logic
like in gaza where “they are mean to gays” so it is OK to genocide all the gays in there
echodot@feddit.uk 9 months ago
I don’t know why they’re trying to push this narrative that Iran having nuclear weapons is somehow more bad for Western society than, for example, North Korea having nuclear weapons.
They’re acting as if no hostile power has ever had nuclear weapons before.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Simple. Let’s let them just have their nukes, on the condition that their program be run entirely by female nuclear scientists!
chebur54@lemmy.world 9 months ago
How about fuck the state and false flags organized by the state?
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 9 months ago
In previous such cases they advertised the scenarios via news & movies/TV shows.
Anything on the radar now?
Trains/railroad attack?
Air traffic control attack?
Congress attack so they can just disband it?
Attack on protesters?WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
The easiest attack to false-flag would be an automated drone attack against a stateside US military base. Remember that Ukraine Spiderweb drone attack from a few weeks back?
Ukraine built shipping containers with attack drones and retractable roofs. They contracted hapless Russian freight operators to deliver these shipping containers close to Russian air force bases. Then they remotely activated them, retracted the roofs, and had the drones take off to attack Russian airplanes just a few miles away.
This kind of attack would be trivially easy to false-flag. At least with a false flag in-person terrorist attack, there are people involved. You can dig into the backgrounds of the actual attackers and maybe uncover links to intelligence agencies.
But an automated drone attack? Just drop off a shipping container near a military base at night. Have the drones fly out in the middle of the day and attack some noncritical base or military infrastructure. Maybe have them blow up some planes that were set for decommissioning soon anyway. Maybe kill a few expendable soldiers in the process. Then fake and release some shipping manifest to tie the attack to Iran.
It’s a fantastic false flag attack method. It would be nearly impossible to prove as a fake. And it’s the kind of attack that military planners are already shouting the alarm over, as we’ve seen just this month how effective such an attack can be. Hell, the CIA could probably even be able to get a hold of some Iranian drones for the project. Russia has used a fair number of those in Ukraine, and I’m sure a good number have been downed or captured reasonably intact. The CIA likely already has actual Iranian drones. They could simply use some of those in a false flag attack.
bampop@lemmy.world 9 months ago
An attack on the military would make a lot of sense. Trump needs to manufacture consent within the military before he can reliably use them to eliminate protests. So this ticks all the boxes. Can’t be small scale though. You need a significant death toll, you need people to be horrified. Even something spectacular wouldn’t significantly reduce the US’s military capacity, and you can bet it’s a sacrifice Trump is willing to make. Especially after the disappointing birthday parade.
echodot@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Except it’s the Trump administration we’re talking about here. So they’d fuck it up in some way.
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The US invented this new technology called aircraft hangers
rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What do you need to live? Water.
What are the great lakes full of? Water.
Lake Superior thinks it’s above the rest, a clear target for an attack on the nation’s water supply… By blowing up Lake Superior!
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 9 months ago
So a sharknado attack?
Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
3 sonic the hedgehog movies in 5 years. We should fear the Erinaceidae
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Oh shit. We’re gonna get some sort of fast spiky mammal based attack.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
My current bet is on a widespread organized mass assassination attempt on multiple lawmakers. Hit them all at the same time, so their security can’t see the pattern and put them under protection before they’re killed. Off a bunch of democrats, then use the ensuing chaos to seize control and “postpone” the midterms.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I would say specifically Jewish lawmakers, both Democrat and Republican. That would fit their narrative well.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Congress attack so they can just disband it?
They already tried that one.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Twice this week, yeah.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
They will have so much Pizza at the Pentagon !
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Iranian pizza is actually amazing.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 months ago
But the gay bar nearby will be empty!
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 9 months ago
Pfft that was pretty much guaranteed when Trump took office. But because of his ego it’s gonna have to be bigger than 9/11
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I think he’d do it if a brown person set his shoes on fire tbh
tourist@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m declaring war on Iran because the Ayatollah fucked up my McChicken ☝️ and we don’t like that 👐 they say sir how do you fuck up a McChicken and I tell them it’s too much sauce and you can’t do that
someguy3@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Fox news is going to start caring about repression in Iran.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
“Seymour, the Reichstag is on fire!”
someguy3@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No mother that’s just the iron dome.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Well Seymour I must say you are an odd fellow, but you steam a good Islam.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Why does Trump need an actual terrorist attack. He can just show up on TV, flash an AI generated face-melting re-edit of a scene from the TV show 24, announce “We are under attack and must respond immediately”, and fire up the bombers.
At this point, I bet you that you could show Trump a deep fried still-image meme and convince him that we need to strike back.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Trump starting a war to distract from his criminality and failed presidency and boost his ratings is 100% on my bingo card. Multiple times.
distantsounds@lemmy.world 9 months ago
See 2023-10-07
Outwit1294@lemmy.today 9 months ago
I still believe 9/11 was an inside job to shift public sentiment and justify a war.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Inside job gives them too much credit, imo.
Fact is they already knew about Bin Laden and simply decided “you know, what if we just turned around for a second and, well, if something were to happen…?”
And to do that? A tiny budget cut here, a little policy shift there, and… kaboom!
Not so much that they planned anything themselves regarding the attack, they just lowered their guard enough to let it happen.
Outwit1294@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Or this is what they let people think
Meron35@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The CIA produced many briefs for Bush warning about Bin Laden in 2001 before the actual attacks. Bush did not take any of these seriously, as summarised by one of his now infamous response “All right. You’ve covered your ass.”
Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US - Wikipedia - …wikipedia.org/…/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_i…
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Meh, I don’t think there’s a need for conspiracy for 9/11 to be a legitimate terrorist attack. It gives too much credit to Bush and his ilk and down plays the political blowback of the US’s interventional history in the Middle East.
The term “never let a good crisis go to waste” has been around for a while.
kingofras@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Your assumptions preventing from giving this serious consideration:
- Bush or Americans were behind 9/11
- there has been any blowback for any of the staged military conflicts since WWII?
I’ll put the TLDR here: 911 was a brazen cascade foreign intelligence agency assault on the United States. The president and the cabinet were made aware of the impending attack. The attack A three stage attack comprising of wtc pentagon and the capitol. The demand was to start wars and at least outlined by Netanyahu in previous months and years in front of the UN security council. First Afghanistan, then Iraq then Syria than Lebanon and Iran. After each attack occurred to stop the other planes or let them reach their destination.
Most likely the US was also told that these were Arabs doing this, And that this foreign intelligence agency could stop them at any moment if they agreed to their terms.
Every year since 911, With every action on every front and the Middle East, including the genocide and the US backed insurgency of Syria, one can see this plan come to fruition.
Consider:
- US has been a nuclear superpower since 1944.
- The USA did not just win WWII, And performed a military annexation of mainland Europe. This meant that the most free thinking and democratic part of the world will always think twice before criticising their ‘ally’
- If you’re a massive country but not US aligned, how do you military strategise against that? China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, not to mention the some off the other allies would all have made various attempts and some successful to infiltrate the country they can’t attack without risking the end of the world. You think they sat still for half a century? The US is an active culture ending threat if you’re not aligned with them.
- middle eastern policy has been dictated by a zionist death cult for decades if not centuries. They are very well funded, highly intelligent and organised and have their own spooks that can make any assassination look like an accident.
- for the longest time, the most common used method of an oppressor or aggressor is to either attack itself and pin the blame on the soon to be enemy, or to annoy the enemy enough and pester and poke them until they October 7 you (still make sure all border guards are down so they can do it unhindered)
- a bunch of barely trained pilots fly 4 airliners directly to their destination, perfectly synchronised all within the same couple of hours in the most heavily guarded airspaces in the world and with the most sophisticated airliners…
- the military just happens to be doing anti hijacking drills at the exact time of events
- 3 massive steel structure buildings collaping at near freefall speed (1, 2 and 7)
- the impact ring of the pentagon being enforced just months prior to the
missileplane hitting it. - no cctv footage of the plane hitting pentagon released till this day, bar a couple of video frames from one angle
- Sec Def announcement the day before that 2 trillion dollars of the military budget went missing
- the massive amount of quick actions that followed in the fog of war in the hours and days later, how and why wtc7 was brought down, why the steel was shipped to China without investigation
Your take is fine if you only briefly glance at it. Spend any more than 30 minutes on it and you’ll understand why we live in a clickbait, fast news distraction meme culture.
Understanding 9/11 is how I understand US foreign policy ever since. We’re living in Animal Farm, and the world has let the world’s bully do what it did out of gratitude for WWII and because you keep your worst enemy closer than your friends.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Just as a random btw:
wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_(TV_series)In the pilot episode, which aired March 4, 2001 (exactly six months and one week prior to the September 11 attacks[5]), rogue members of the U.S. government remotely hijack an airliner flying to Boston, planning to crash it into the World Trade Center, and let anti-American terrorist groups take credit, to gain support for a profitable new war following the Cold War. The heroes ultimately override the controls, foiling the plot.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Dude, can you imagine? They bring down the world trade center…again?
Katana314@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s really sad - back on 9/11, I thought “That’s horrible! What kind of evil country could hate us so much they’d want to attack our civilians!?”
Now, if another 9/11 happens, I may just shrug and think “…Yeah…we’re America. We deserve it.”
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 9 months ago
9/11 is a fraction of a fraction of the horror the U.S has unleashed on other countries.
America is a den of self righteous fuckwits.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
We only have like three more.
Gork@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Whatever happened to, “If I were President, the war would never have happened”
Or is that just a talking point he made up.
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
your meme is smudged, maybe wait a bit for it to dry before grabbing it from the meme printer
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
I was here
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I seriously doubt that will happen. The current administration has shown zero indication that they give two fucks about what the people want.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
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