Well it has Denuvo… I wasn’t buying that shit
DOOM: The Dark Ages Has Reportedly Sold Less Than 1 Million Copies
Submitted 10 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://80.lv/articles/doom-the-dark-ages-has-reportedly-sold-less-than-1-million-copies/
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secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Hachiman@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s ironic that they attach third-party software to prevent piracy out of fear of losing sales, but in the end, it actually causes them to sell fewer copies. lol
Subverb@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Fewer than. *
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
No less than is correct because they know the exact number they have sold.
If you’ve sold less than 1,000 units then you have sold a number of units that is under 1,000.
If you have sold few of them 1,000 units you have not sold 1,000 units but you’re not sure how many units you have sold just that that number didn’t reach 1,000.
But they do know how many units they sold, otherwise they wouldn’t know if they had sold less than 1,000 so it is “less than”.Subverb@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No, that’s wrong.
The “less than” vs “fewer than” rule isn’t about whether you know the exact number - it’s about countable vs uncountable nouns.
Video game copies are countable, so it’s traditionally “fewer than 1,000 units” regardless of whether you know the precise number sold.
That said, it’s been misused so much that it’s become more flexible, and “less than” with numbers is widely accepted now.
Don’t take my word for it, Google it.
Xatolos@reddthat.com 10 months ago
[deleted]out@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
In the dark ages you can customise the difficulty to a great degree.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 10 months ago
Well they added a mandatory “parry” system to a doom game, what did they expect?
daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The DRM kept me from buying it
samus12345@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Not a big fan of the new Dooms, although I did like 2016. Nothing beats the ol’ Doom II (via source ports).
szczuroarturo@programming.dev 10 months ago
Sooo as far as im concerned i personaly will buy it beacuse it looks fun buuut on discount . Right now its just too expensive. And i can buy claire obscure for 2/3 of the price and thats also on my list sooo guess which one will go first.
But to be fair i am not exatcly the most representative sample i basicaly never buy games for more than 40$ and mostly even cheaper. Previous doom games i bought for something between 10$ and 20$ soooo.
Wahots@pawb.social 10 months ago
DOOM 16 was fantastic, but eternal felt gross. It was a huge step back from 2016, and didn’t feel fun. I’m not bothering with the newer games since they essentially are going off gimmicks.
msbeta1421@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The only real criticism I have of the game is the price. I think it was a great single player experience, but I totally understand people balking at the $70 price tag.
It was fun, but I put it down once the credits rolled. Nothing inherently wrong with that; cramming a ton of completionist and weekly update content would not have made this a better game.
Maybe I’m just old.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, I’d buy a DLC for 2016 right now but I doubt I’ll buy Dark Ages, at least not until it’s on sale.
CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.
Eternal was too hard for me. Love Dark Ages.
Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I’m on the same page as you re: Eternal. The first hour out so was fun, and the graphics are neat, but it stops feeling like a Doom game pretty quickly. It doesn’t even feel like a Quake game, which would at least be tolerable.
Will probably give this one a shot eventually when it’s on discount, but not in a hurry.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.
axby@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.
Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I honestly don’t mind some story in games. Heck, I’ve got hundreds of hours in Skyrim and other RPG’s. Doom to me is run & gun. Doom 2016 had the perfect amount of story for a Doom game.
Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything else quite like it. If there is, I don’t know it. Most other shooters are either COD, SciFi, retro FPS or stuff like Borderlands that leans into comedy.
If this was ‘back in the day’, closest recommendation to it would likely be something like the Quake series. That’s id’s own successor to the original Doom. Sadly also long dead.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I just barely convinced myself to spend €80 on a single game, then noticed Denuvo. Hard pass
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 months ago
Someone is probably explaining the math to some suits how these are still good numbers because they now charge 80 dollars. In a podcast someone said that the 120 whatever dollar version that lets you play 3 days earlier was so dogshit bad that they had to yank out the power cable out of the wall because it crashed so hard. It’s hard to feel bad for these paid beta testers tho
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 months ago
there’s a gorillion reasons why it isnt doing so hot, but i could make a few uneducated guesses. one, gamepass subscriptions, which obfuscate the data and has sent multiple studios to the grave even when they had moderate success. two, the economy is terrible in the US and getting worse by the day, making a $70+ game not an appealing purchase. three, maybe the Boycott Divestment Sanctions protest is having some effect.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What is the BDS link here?
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 10 months ago
BDS put Microsoft on their list of companies to boycott, and Microsoft owns the studios that made DOOM TDA
ryper@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Microsoft owns id’s parent company these days, and Microsoft provides services to the Israeli military.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Four, hardware requirements delaying would be purchasers.
Siresly@lemm.ee 10 months ago
So much I don’t know here. Like what an 80.lv is, what their source Alinea Analytics is or what either of their credibility is, why a second source (Ampere) arrived at a PS5 number that deviated from Alinea’s by over 100%, why this didn’t make 80.lv question the veracity of the claim they opted to put in their headline, what sales even mean in the context of Game Pass, why I would care about the potential profitability of a game I don’t care about, why I clicked this post, am writing this comment, or why Microsoft opts to be complicit in Israel’s genocide.
simple@lemm.ee 10 months ago
They’re a market research agency, and are well-known and credible enough. See: 80.lv/contact-us
I care about industry news. Hence the post.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 months ago
There’s a video on YouTube called “Doom The Dark Ages Story Explained” but it’s a Doom game.
chunes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I watched a few levels of it. This game has already been made. It’s called Painkiller and I beat it 20 years ago.
dvlsg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
No fps gun has ever been as satisfying as that stake launcher.
Here’s hoping the painkiller remaster/remake doesn’t suck.
JTskulk@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m avoiding it because it just doesn’t look that fun. I played the last 2 new dooms and they were good, for console shooters. More PC gamers should have higher standards than this. I don’t want a dumb story about medieval times, collecting dolls, linear maps, cyberdragon mounts, running from arena to arena and then starting repetitive wave fights. Just make a good shooter please!
DacoTaco@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You basically summed up why i didnt find the reboot and its dlc any good haha
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Did a new DOOM game get released?
utopiah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well “new” is arguable.
Agent641@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yes it runs on Microsoft excel
TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 10 months ago
AAA gaming is dead. Indies have been carrying gaming for years now.
trslim@pawb.social 10 months ago
Forcing raytracing is a great way to close off a bunch of customers.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Yep, that and it looks like the base Doom formula has been watered down a lot from the gameplay I’ve seen.
The release of new games sometimes makes me play older titles, going through Doom 2 with some tasty mods atm.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not just because some people don’t have it either, but for anything with RTX2000/3000 and RDNA2, Forced RT is just forced low framerate.
I hope making everyone dynamically draw the lights and shadows in realtime for a linear game was worth the 15c it saved on Microsoft’s electricity bill for not pre-baking overnight.
Kurious84@eviltoast.org 10 months ago
I tell ya I se 70 bucks for a game when everything is small and you get no value for your dollar and everything costs more. No thanks.
theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
In this economy? I’m sure its worth it but $70 is $70.
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah no shit. My battlenet launcher wanted $100 for it.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 months ago
On GamePass though, isn’t it? Only people actually buying would be on PS5 and the neversub gang.
HereIAm@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Or Linux 😄 I really liked Game Pass though. Played some great games in there I would either have completely missed or have had to wait years for them to be discounted.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It’s also the game they’re giving away with purchases of the 50 series Nvidia cards.
demizerone@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I would have bought it of it didn’t have denovo. I’ll wait til its stripped out.
Sunshine@piefed.social 10 months ago
The raytracing requirement is fine but having to deal with denuvo is a bridge too far.
echodot@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Why does it need anti cheat? It’s a single player game.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Denuvo’s DRM instead of anti-cheat.
Though I also was wondering the same thing. Took me a minute to remember lmao.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Game is 70$ on Steam US and has a very positive review. That is still too much money unless this is a game you were really looking forward to.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Bethesda ought to just let the Doom IP go and give it to someone who actually cares.
I will never give a single red cent to Bethesda ever again and I sure as hell ain’t doing it for this. Whatever this is has no business claiming to be a Doom game. They probably would have had slightly better luck if they slapped the veneer of some other IP over it rather than Doom.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oooh, so edgy and tough. Do you have a fan club already, or can I be the one to start it?
squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You obviously haven’t played it. The game is great and 100% worthy of the Doom name.
WhiteBurrito@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I mean, it ain’t bad, it’s fun(I’m on mission 13-14), it’s still a Doom game. But it’s definitely the weakest of the last 3 games.
The Atlan is a cool concept but it’s just slow combat, the dragon sections are okay I guess but not groundbreaking… The overall combat itself is fun, but it’s somehow less visceral than the other two games, glory kills are basically gone and you just do a melee attack most of the time… I honestly enjoyed Eternal much more, it’s combat made you use the mechanics in a better way
anakin78z@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Anyone know what the budget was? At 800k sold, that’s roughly $56M, minus merchant fees, plus whatever they get for 2.2M players on Game Pass.
Definitely not bad, though I expect it’ll take a while for them to recoup their budget.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Put the entire game on the disk/ 2 disks and I will buy.
Feyd@programming.dev 10 months ago
I didn’t even look at it enough to know if I’d buy it otherwise when I saw it has denuvo. Always online DRM is a hard pass for me. I haven’t played the last 3 games Atlus released either and I’ve been playing almost every one since the ps2 era.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Bro I played almost everything they released on consoles and just didn’t even cross my mind to play it on PC cause , like you, been playing since PS2 and the only time I pick one up is if I see it on sale at a brick and mortar store or the marketplace. Shame about this intrusion of denuvo into such great franchises, that would honestly benefit from some privacy considering the SMT current niche audience.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
£70 ($95) for the base game and £100 ($135) for the full game. Bethesda go fuck yourself.