The game is basically less Doom & more WH40K-ish.
DOOM: The Dark Ages Has Reportedly Sold Less Than 1 Million Copies
Submitted 10 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://80.lv/articles/doom-the-dark-ages-has-reportedly-sold-less-than-1-million-copies/
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MITM0@lemmy.world 10 months ago
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 10 months ago
For me anyway, my loss of interest in the DOOM franchise started when they started dehumanizing the Doom Marine and started stacking fantastic/medieval elements to the main protagonist and his arsenal.
I like my DOOM games when it is a battle of sci-fi military forces against demonic forces. Human technology versus brutish monsters. But now with Dark Ages Bethesda turned the franchise into a more violent and edgy Skyrim.
catloaf@lemm.ee 10 months ago
When was the doomguy humanized?
mirisgaiss@lemmy.world 10 months ago
from the gameplay I’ve watched so far it’s just been turned into a completely different game now. eternal was barely hanging on to the ethos of it, and now theres throwing blades and maces and shit? that’s not doom anymore.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 months ago
Honestly I’d have been down for Doomguy turning into a literal demigod of demon murdering but I’d want his look to reflect it. Right now he’s in this weird position where he’s basically magic but they didn’t want to get rid of his look.
Aganim@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Seeing how they screwed over Mick Gordon, the composer for the previous two installments, I’ll vote with my wallet and skip this one. My backlog is big enough as it is anyway.
MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Same
Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Doom Eternal is a beautiful album that includes a lovely mini-game.
Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Doom Eternal? The game with a soundtrack that was made up of butchered parts of Gordon’s work, welded together by a novice, at the command of an egotistical dickhead who slandered Gordon after the fact?
medium.com/…/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-ete…
Eternals original OST was very poor compared to Doom 2016. Big reason I never bothered with the game.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 10 months ago
- It’s $80
- It’s on Gamespass, where I assume a lot of doom fans who might have otherwise purchased are likely to be.
- It’s shouldered up against Expedition 33 and Oblivion Remake, both over $20 cheaper and highly acclaimed.
- It’s $80
utopiah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
up against Expedition 33
I mean… I don’t play Doom due to DRM but also to be fair Expedition 33 is “just” 40ish hours whereas Doom is (check notes) less than 20hrs to complete? WTH. Nope.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
20 and 40 hours both sound pretty terrible for such expensive games. Got far more out of games like Factorio and for a lot less.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Also… I think you missed this one… It’s $80.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Gonna wait for a code and a sale in a year
MITM0@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh & denuvo
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Denuvo is the only reason I’m waiting. I’m on Linux, and I’m not risking that Proton change license issue. And also I hate the performance hit that Denuvo causes.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Mostly this. I’m not paying for something that comes with malware. Not for $80, $20, or $1. Nobody should pay for malware.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 10 months ago
It’s $70
pennomi@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Depends on your location in the world. Which shows just how arbitrary the price actually is.
wcSyndrome@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Where is it $80?
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 10 months ago
Steam, the cheapest I see it as is 79,99€ where I am, which is actually US$90. I just assumed the US store did a straight conversion to dollars, but you’re getting a discount too, it seems.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not in Australia, it’s $120 here.
Todd, Marty, Phil and Satya can suck an egg together.
overload@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
Also, it reviewed well but with some annoying caveats.
nfreak@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Let’s see
- The game itself takes away a lot of pieces of the formula that made 2016 and Eternal so good
- $80 price tag
- BDS boycott
I’m shocked that it’s not selling, absolutely shocked.
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
And also, for some of us:
- Boycott due to Mick Gordon’s treatment.
nfreak@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
TRUE, I knew I was forgetting something else
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 10 months ago
It’s $70 though?
nfreak@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Was thinking of BL4. Still pretty egregious though
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
[deleted]Saleh@feddit.org 10 months ago
BDS is a global movement calling for boycotts, divestment and ultimately sanctions of Israel and companies complicit in Israels illegal occupation and other crimes against the Palestinian people.
Microsoft provides AI tools to the Israeli army -IDF- which are used to automatically designate people as targets for bombing. Among other things a particular heinous AI is infamously named “Where’s Daddy”, where bombings are timed so that the target is killed upon arriving home, so their entire family is also murdered.
www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
apnews.com/…/microsoft-israel-military-gaza-hamas…Activision Blizzard, Bethesda, iD-Software, Zenimax, Mojang (Minecraft) and others are all owned by Microsoft.
CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Google says BDS stands for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (against Isreal.)
nfreak@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Microsoft (and by extension id and Bethesda) are a priority target for the BDS boycotts against Israel
nawa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not sure about hardcore Doom fans but the game looks uninteresting to me specifically. It’s like a polar opposite from Doom 2016 judging by all the videos I’ve seen. Don’t really care about the higher price, I’d get it if I liked it but it really doesn’t click for me.
trslim@pawb.social 10 months ago
Ive really not cared about the direction the story has been taking, and im not a huge fan of the newer atmosphere. 2016 felt like it still had horror elements, the demons felt dangerous and doomguy, while incredibly strong, still felt like vulnerable, especially with the custom death scenes. Now he has like this god aura around him, which is cool i guess, but him battling for survival will always be cooler to me than him being like a living god. Also the zero third person cutscenes will always be superior to me, even though i understand why others may not like it.
Goretantath@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Would have been the perfect doom game if they didnt make it so every bout of combat ended in a whimper. Even the mech fights dont end gloriously.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 10 months ago
BDS?
yesman@lemmy.world 10 months ago
meant to mislead potential players into thinking the game is successful when, in fact, it’s severely underperforming behind the scenes.
Why would a player in a single-player game give a tiny shit about how popular it is? It’s the investor class that cares about that; stop treating their interests as a natural good.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It’s a bad game
Aux@feddit.uk 10 months ago
“Investor class”, lol wtf is this new lunacy?
Murvel@lemm.ee 10 months ago
This is Lemmy; everything is politics and it’s really fun and mentally healthy
AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That term is decades old, it’s fine if you haven’t heard it before but maybe consider that possibility before replying like that and looking like an asshole.
Feyd@programming.dev 10 months ago
It’s old lunacy. Believe it or not we live in a class based society where the vast majority of the people that actually provide value to society have their labor stolen by leeches that make money by having money and that is what that person means by the investor class.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly how they want it to be. If they were interested in selling games they wouldn’t put them day one on gamepass.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 months ago
We went through this song and dance with Indiana Jones and Avowed, too. If this was a strategy that lost them money, they’d stop doing it. It turns out they’re just fine with having tens of millions of subscribers that like the idea of getting access to games like these for, in plenty of cases, cheaper.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
They can also probably do some accounting hijinks to write off these “losses” while still profiting on it for a long long time. Although this is purely speculative on my part as I’m not an accountant.
caut_R@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
caut_R@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Games cost more to produce but there’s more customers than ever
pm_me_anime_thighs@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
And its certainly not the developers who are getting all that extra money.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Amen.
Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Expedition 33 kinda takes all my time.
solsangraal@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
good. i won’t buy it until it’s $10. and not even then if they haven’t removed denuvo at that point
tiny_hedgehog@lemm.ee 10 months ago
*fewer than
lennyuncle@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Game is mid imo
xangadix@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m one of the biggest fans of the DOOM franchise, I’ve played all the versions since the original one in 1993. But I don’t care if I play it now or in half a year. Or a year for that matter. Never really understood why having it first matters to anyone. I’ll be here when the prices drop.
I was stupid enough to buy SpaceMarine when it came out, at full price (mostly because I loved Boltgun so much) and that was a great lesson in waiting around a bit before actually buying a game. It would have been a fun game for 15 or even 20 euro, but it’s not worth 70 euro. I Should have bought helldivers, anyway 😓
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 months ago
I regretted buying HellDivers. I honestly think that it becoming as popular as it did is a damning indictment of the state of coop shooters.
xangadix@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I still haven’t bought it, played it at a friend for a while, and had a lot of fun 🤷
bizzle@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I bought Space Marine 2 at launch, decided it needed more time. So I got Helldivers 2 which I immediately got addicted to and I love it.
xangadix@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Did you find it got better after the updates, I still think space marine is kind of meh, my son has fun with it though, which is nice
hushable@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m on the same boat, I got 2016 around Eternal release date for like €10 and loved it. Then I bought Eternal just last year for a similar deal and I haven’t finished the DLC yet. I am more than happy to wait for DA to go on sale.
zecg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The reverse-Midas of Microsoft, whatever they buy turns to shit.
simple@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It has nothing to do with quality, most people played it on game pass rather than buying it.
zecg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
How nice for Microsoft, I’m sure it’s a big success.
Emil_Zatopek1982@lemmy.world 10 months ago
That price was doomed.
fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
It’s 300 riyals [here], what did they expect? I’ll wait for it be cracked. I’m patient.
Kirp123@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I hope this shows companies that selling their games at 80 Euro is not the way to go.
TommySoda@lemmy.world 10 months ago
As much as I love the Doom games I’m not really a fan of the $70 price tag. The Doom games are great games but it’s not like they are in my top 5 favorite games or anything like that. I’ll wait for a sale.
Damarus@feddit.org 10 months ago
It’s also 80€ in Europe. Everyone I talked to is waiting for the price to drop, including me.
jackod@lemmy.nz 10 months ago
$130 NZD, I don’t want to guess what $80 USD games are going to “convert” too 😮💨
arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It’s £70 in the uk, that’s $95 while in the us it costs $70, which is £50. Xbox did the same thing with the new call of duty, their regional pricing is so braindead.
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Marty Stratton and his denuvo riddled pos game can kindly get fukt after what he did to Mick Gordon, the composer of the banger soundtrack for Doom 2016.
medium.com/…/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-ete…
kurcatovium@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Holy fucking shit! I live under the rock in the middle of nowhere so I’ve heard only some brief parts of “something wrong with DOOM Eternal music” but nothing factual. Now I gave the time to read the whole article and I’m speechless. 'Cause this is bad, really, really, REALLY bad. I feel sorry for people that have to work and live under such assholes like Marty obviously is…
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Yea, I read that a few weeks ago and it convinced to not touch Doom TDA. I mean, maybe pirate it, but certainly not buy it.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 10 months ago
Wow. I already wasn’t going to buy any more Bethesda slop, but now I’m not going to buy it twice.