utopiah

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  I agree… but beside the point I have access to a dedicated workshop and a tool library www.tournevie.be which challenges this whole setup. It’s relatively unique though, unfortunately, so your example still stands, thanks for sharing.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Yep. That’s exactly why I tend to never discuss “AI” with people who don’t have to actually have a PhD in the domain, or at least a degree in CS. It’s nothing against them specifically, it’s only that they are dangerously repeating what they heard during marketing presentations with no ability to criticize it and, in such cases, it can be quite dangerous.

  TL;DR: people who could benefit from it don’t need it, people who would shouldn’t.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Mostly because the model is incapable

  There, fixed that for you.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s their question too, what the hell did Google makes this the default, as opposed to limiting it to the project directory.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Because “agentic”. IMHO running commands is actually cool, doing it without very limited scope though (as he did say in the video) is definitely idiotic.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Well… at least do that for Windows and MacOS, not for Linux.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Because people who runs this shit precisely don’t know what containers, scope, permissions, etc are. That’s exactly the audience.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  The user can choose whether the AI can run commands on its own or ask first.

  That implies the user understands every single code with every single parameters. That’s impossible even for experience programmers, here is an example :

  rm *filename

  versus

  rm * filename

  where a single character makes the entire difference between deleting all files ending up with filename rather than all files in the current directory and also the file named filename.

  Of course here you will spot it because you’ve been primed for it. In a normal workflow then it’s totally difference.

  Also IMHO more importantly if you watch the video ~7min the clarified the expected the “agent” to stick to the project directory, not to be able to go “out” of it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  It should also be sandboxed with hard restrictions that it cannot bypass

  duh… just using it in a container and that’s it. It won’t blue pill its way out.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  I think that’s the point, the “agent” (whatever that means) is not running in a sandbox.

  I imagine the user assumed permissions are small at first, e.g. single directory of the project, but nothing outside of it. That would IMHO be a reasonable model.

  They might be wrong about it, clearly, but it doesn’t mean they explicitly gave permission.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Google's Agentic AI wipes user's entire HDD without permission in catastrophic failure⁩ ⁨⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Wow… who would have guessed. /s

  Sorry but if in 2025 you believe claims from BigTech you are a gullible moron. I genuinely do not wish data loss on anyone but come on, if you ask for it…

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  The plain n8n app is very capable of doing a ton of stuff.

  Sorry if I’m a bit slow but what does it actually do? I skimmed through “automations” earlier this morning and I mostly found paid-for GenAI related stuff.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks I’ll dig deeper. I guess I do want something like n8n but ideally :

  • no AI
  • self hosted FLOSS services first, if possibly only (can just be filters like F-Droid has)
  • no need for no-code / low-code
• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Do you have a specific use case for two containers that you want to talk to each other?

  Sure, for example once a Jitsi Meet meeting ends (more than 1 person in a room in, everybody gone), save the chat log to CopyParty e.g. WebDAV push to /meetingname_date.txt would be enough to be useful. It’s something we tend to do manually on a regular basis.

  road map of what you are trying to accomplish before hand, and run it by the dev teams.

  Yes no rush and I can code so I would be able to test before suggesting anything.

  As I’m thinking about it, I wonder if your solution might be automation?

  I don’t touch AI but I do think conventions, e.g. not “just” an API but SWAGGER, specific filesystem on mountpoints, etc could facilitate this.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Indeed and for PeerTube for example it has an API, cf docs.joinpeertube.org/api-rest-reference.html which I did use. It also provides SWAGGER so that could facilitate integration with others services also providing APIs. I was starting to think that the meta service could have read only public only token generated for each new service and provide a SWAGGER endpoint to facilitate using the API of more than 1 service.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks, that’s indeed exactly the kind of thing I’m looking for “The authentication glue you need.” but even more generalized than that, e.g. just “the glue you need.” not solely for authentication.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  most of my services are an island to themselves

  same

  and I like it that way.

  … well that’s the part I’m challenging. I was thinking like this but I’m wondering if that could be improved.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Yes I can relate to the process.

  Any further interoperability is luck based.

  Unfortunately I can relate to that, hence the question here :D

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks, are you saying there is a mechanism in place, e.g. does YunoHost suggests plugins or integrations for services it manages?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  eh… yes thanks and I do actually have ntfy (I also warmly recommend it) but this was just an example.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Interoperability between self-hosted services⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Well I do have Home Assistant, been running it for years, but HA is solely for … well home assisting (or IoT). HA as integrations but let’s say I want to use HA with … any of my other services, e.g. CopyParty to maybe store logs and makes them available or PeerTube to have videos from my camera, I can look at HA integrations, or CopyParty… issues maybe, or PeerTube npm registry.

  My point being that HA is a good example with integrations but it’s just one example. If I do take this example seriously though, is there a mechanism beside manual search in the list of integration that would list integrations with my services directly?

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Technically speaking hand tracking can be done with just computer vision, no dedicated tracking (like Leap Motion) required even though it’s typical better. So yes, it could be done but there is not promise of it so it’d be a risky bet.

  VR proper content like Half-life: Alyx, here my comment is about producing content, not using the existing Steam catalogue. I love Alyx, I need more. If I get another headsets (I have several) but nothing amazing to put on it, “just” the usual then I’m not as excited.

  I did stream, actually Alyx in 2020 (half a decade ago!) via Alvr …benetou.fr/…/1243659207783649281/ so… that’s definitely feasible, definitely not new. It’s a good principle and if it helps keep the device price low, in fact VERY low, then it’s great. If it’s still relatively expensive then it won’t feel great to buy a device in 2026 with specs comparable to something that was out few years priors even if in practice it might be “good enough” standalone with some specific games. The Steam Deck didn’t really have that problem because there was no real alternatives. Here I’d argue it’s a bit different with Quest, Pico, Lynx but also higher ends like Vision Pro (which you can stream Steam games to, as I did also last year) or the newer Samsung Galaxy XR.

  Regarding updates… yes, in theory, in practice I best most of use don’t have accessories for our Index “Frunk”. AFAICT also most people didn’t upgrade their Deck but rather bought the newer model. They do hint at quite a few upgrades or modules in the video though. Love to see how repairable it will be and no doubt it should be way better than most alternatives!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Cubism, mini golf or any game where you build something in the space, Laser Dance, all the sketching and sketching apps, etc. It’s not for everyone but feels like such a low hanging fruit when all the rest is there.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Me too, they just keep on investing in interrop and I’m all for that.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Right, better be safe than sorry. The important point though IMHO that with Proton and now FEX they have shown that compatibility layers are not that costly or complex :

  • try to make it run
  • nothing works
  • not what doesn’t, try a way
  • one thing work and it’s slow as heck
  • understand why
  • 2 things now work, one of them is fast, the other slow
  • rinse&repeat until it’s good enough to crowd source quality control to others

  So… I don’t want to diminish how amazing that is, technically speaking, but we now all know it’s feasible. Initially it looks like supporting an entire OS architecture was ridiculous (and it was, emulation was just “good enough” for games that were some years old and for much more powerful machine) until somebody tried “just” swapping or fixing the right API (i.e. DirectX) and … that was actually OK.

  Again, it’s a TON of work. A lot of it also comes from Wine. But… now we now why it works and how to do that. Even if Valve were to lock SteamOS, that knowledge wouldn’t be lost on the broader community.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Sadly agree. I’ve been waiting for years, claiming I’d buy whatever they sell… but honestly right now this would feel like a donation more than something I eagerly want, even less need.

  FWIW I’m also NOT the market, I have … I don’t actually know how many but at least 5 XR headsets.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  FWIW been using SteamOS on the SteamDeck for ~3 years now and from gaming to tinkering, no major problems. Never had to tinker hard or re-install. A couple of time it didn’t suspend properly or I had to hold power button of to force a shutdown but that’s about it.

  I doubt Valve would back of from the openness because that’s their one single advantage.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  True, but would one want to have a BigTech labels on their Linux distribution? Wouldn’t that kind of miss the point and bring us back to e.g. ChromeBooks?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I’m a bit too lazy to check for the entire stack I admit but I bet a lot of those actually do. Still to do a quick check Google for examples is on ev.kde.org/supporting-members/