The thing they all share is that they are deeply unloved. Trump, musk, bezos, zuck, none of them have healthy loving families. They have noons they can genuinely connect with. And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need. But it never does, so they just keep going not realizing the path they chose doesn’t end anywhere near what they desire. Money will never buy love and peace.
I knew one day I’d have to watch powerful men burn the world down. I just didn’t expect them to be such losers
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GluWu@lemm.ee 20 hours ago
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need.
If that was all it was, then I’d feel sorry for them. No, they’re trying to fulfill that need by being Great Men of History with Mighty Plans, but their Mighty Plans are all terrible, because they’re horrible people.
o1011o@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Yeah, I think it’s a mistake to imagine that these are good people who just need a little love. There are literally hundreds of millions of people who aren’t getting enough love for proper human flourishing and it’s not like that turned them all into fascists. The kind of evil exhibited by these people must be attributed to a fundamental enjoyment of the suffering of others.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
That’s a tired stereotype. Powerful people are unloved because they don’t need to be loved. They are psychopaths, they have all the love they need, they are bored with the world and have nothing more to want.
People around you are unloved because they have problems.
Also money can buy you a cottage surrounded by nice trees near a river, healthy food, more house animals than you could want, a fast PC, jasmine and lilac bushes outside your window.
I think it can go a long way.
My irritation from this stereotype is because it kinda says the opposite of what it says. It feels like sublimated envy, expressed by saying that you don’t envy them. Why talk about their money at all then.
I wouldn’t envy anyone’s money if that’s all the difference between us, unfortunately money buys power and power is used to impose one’s will upon me, and that I very much care about.
But your typical young Trotskyists in the Interwebs write whole articles consisting of Marxist vibes (a strong thing, especially in spring, but not enough) and envy to those having more. LOL, someone having more money is not our problem. Our problem is someone attacking us with it.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 hours ago
While this is a fresh perspective of the trope, there is very significant evidence that becoming rich is a predictor of early death and depression, presumably due to how hard it becomes to connect to people. Normal people need money to eat and live, and handle it like the privilege it is. It is synonymous with survival for most people. It’s no wonder at all to me why the oligarchs has been naturally selected to be psychopaths. All other people die. A select few give it away and devote themselves to reintegrate back to humanity but those are very few and far between.
overload@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
I wouldn’t challenge this view for Musk, Bezos, Trump. But Zuck gives me more of a “reformed (now married) incel that comes from an otherwise normal family environment vibe”. His marriage seems at least typical, likely loving etc.
His product happens to be the most harmful for democracy and I consider him equal for worst of the bunch as a result, but I think it’s explained by corporate/personal greed and being out of touch with reality.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
He wants to be Augustus Caesar. That’s not “normal loving relationship” behavior.
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 hours ago
I read some books by Alice Miller that discussed some childhoods of authoritarian rulers and they were all of unloved. They had not one adult stick up for them, be their advocate or helper, during their childhood years.
Many of us as children have been unwanted or unloved by our caregivers. Most of us had at least one adult: an uncle, grandmother, teacher etc, who truly tried to help at least once.
What the monsters in history had in common is an absence of evidence of even that happening for them. And their revenge as adults was terrible.
theangryseal@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Man, I should have became an authoritarian ruler.
Instead I became isolated and I haven’t had a visitor in over a decade.
Fuck it. Vote for theangryseal!
For real though, maybe if I hadn’t ever used drugs haha. I had a lot of “friends” when I was living in that world. Might have stopped me. :p
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
No amount of money and power will ever scratch their itch
db2@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
not realizing the path they chose doesn’t end anywhere near what they desire
It’ll end where they deserve though. Alone, despised and empty. No amount of money or stupid blue checkmarks will ever change that.
Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
It might end with them realizing the truth, but it’ll be as they’re surrounded by the ashes of our civilizations and bodies.
lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Money will never buy love and peace.
True enough.
But, in the broken psyches of the ones you’ve mentioned, it buys perfectly serviceable alternatives which they can convince themselves actually does make them happy.
They are so broken that broken solutions actually work for them…
🤷♂️ 🤡 🖕
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Looks like autocorrect did ya dirty.
No one >> noons
Lodespawn@aussie.zone 16 hours ago
Don’t try and downplay the affect of connecting with noons on the human psyche. They are an evil scourge and should be eradicated. This is exactly the kind of thing a noon would post.
scarabic@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What’s wrong with Zuck’s family?
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 12 hours ago
I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but everything seems to be going down the tubes quite fast.
Yeah like having to accept all cookies to read the article.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 hours ago
Block third-party scripts, no cookie popup.
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
The saying money can’t unlame you still true.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
I read the first chapter of Careless People last night and I never thought these people were such large dorks, but here we are.
AidsKitty@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Every major politician in the USA has major financial backers with their own agendas that they purchase through superPAC contributions and by funding re-election campaigns. It’s been the ruling oligarchy my whole life and I’m middle aged. Pretending it’s different or worse now is disingenuous.
MangoCats@feddit.it 4 minutes ago
Your statement reminds me of entrepreneurship: you’ve got a dream, a vision, a goal to improve people’s lives. What you don’t got is enough money to get your dream into the hands of people it will help. So, you go in search of people with money who honestly don’t give a damn about your dream, they just want to know how it’s going to get them more money, which they already have in abundance but somehow feel the need to continue to grow their hoard. They want to see business plans, with exit strategies. They want to maximize ROI, minimize (monetary) risk, minimize time to market - and those are the criteria your pitch will be evaluated on relative to all the others they receive all the time.
Politicians aren’t selling a business plan, they’re selling a legislative agenda. They don’t have to show ROI, they have to show low-cost electability.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It is worse now, at least the legal money side.
Citizens United removed the limits on the international money as well as the domestic money.
Why is the countey tearing itself apart? Because the foreign money has interest in weakening, stealing, amd profiteering from the USA.
Conversely, the domestic money wants to keep the domestic part from falling completely apart; at least until the real estate, votes, and grant money for the revitalization project are all lined up.
Cocopanda@futurology.today 12 hours ago
I will be happy if Zuck is Luigi’d before my death. Also Musk and Bozo.
elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I hipe you aren’t from the US because that’s surely gonna put you on a NSA list
Cocopanda@futurology.today 41 minutes ago
I have listened to MAGA pray for liberals deaths. I’m just saying it would be funny if they got luigi’d before my own death. I’m not calling for someone to do it. Unlike MAGA.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Fuck the NSA
FragrantGarden@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
NSA take note, we can Luigi you too. Sit back and let the oppressors perish and it will stop with them.
HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 2 hours ago
Trump is scaling back the NSA and CIA isn’t he?
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
I wouldn’t worry about the list. We are all on it by now anyway.
Lanske@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Zuck can piss off
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 15 hours ago
Imagine if, when Facebook rolled out, people were just like “no thanks, I’m good” and it never took off.
vga@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
That’s exactly what happens when a Facebook competitor (possibly an ethical one) rolls out. Which is part of the problem.
Telorand@reddthat.com 12 hours ago
Friendica exists, and it’s part of the Fediverse. It’s not going anywhere.
GladiusB@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I wanted to. I liked Myspace. It has character. Some of it was cringe. But you could at least customize it. Facebook seemed so bland. But I had an ex GF that insisted on it and I didn’t think it was worth breaking up over. I shouldn’t have been such a pushover.
AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I stayed on Myspace long past when the majority jumped ship. It eventually lost what made it special when the boy band guy bought it to twist it into something more music focused. But I still preferred it to the sterile, uniformity of Facebook.
asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 14 hours ago
You would break up over switching online platforms?
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I remember LiveJournal as something good. I wouldn’t use it, but felt a bit like Telegram today, except without Telegram, which is a good thing.
chramies00@europe.pub 11 hours ago
It was, until the events of the mid-2010s when most of the science fiction fandom community quit it and went over to Facebook, presumably because that was more convenient (i.e. on it already) than going to e.g. Dreamwidth (a LJ-alike that is still going). It operated in a very similar way to FB but somehow much more focussed maybe because it never got the ‘businesses having pages on there’ bit. Those of my friends who were on both, often used FB more as an events calendar than all-around social media.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I just started reading this book about Facebook and I am amazed how little they cared about how much power they had, and how oblivious they were of it.
These are companies that rule the world, but don’t know what they want with it, other than for it to generate profit
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 21 hours ago
If I had as much power as them I’d at least make dogs that can speak esperanto.
hansolo@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
Because it’s so much better when they’re charismatic assholes?
jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 22 hours ago
I think it’s much sadder (more sad? saddest) that people fall for such absurd douche bags. If they would at least be sexy and seem smart you could understand how people could be fooled but this is just too hard to watch.
frickineh@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Yeah like, they have negative charisma, so it’s extra baffling. I cannot imagine a world in which I’d support Donald Trump, but definitely not in this one where he routinely shits his own diaper. If he was only disgusting mentally but was a good speaker or handsome or whatever, it would make at least a little more sense
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
So like, if instead of musk and zuckerburg, it were a 1990s George Clooney? The smug bastard…
theneverfox@pawb.social 18 hours ago
Propoganda fucking works, simple as that
Billionaires just buy good press and publicists to manage their image, it’s so effective they believe it themselves
BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
People will kiss anyone’s ass for enough money.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
A charismatic tyrant at least provides SOME excuse. People aren’t necessarily monsters, they are just gullible.
When you have someone as decrepit and incompetent as trump who ALSO has a visible diaper bulge at his hips and who can’t speak a coherent sentence? There is no argument other than people truly choosing hate above all else.
sbv@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Yeah, I don’t get this. If it was George Clooney or some other charismatic/likeable person, they’d still be fucking us over.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Yeah but at least they’d have style. Their popularity would at least make sense. It would feel a little less horrifyingly alienating.
truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 21 hours ago
The sad thing is that the bar is so low. If it was a once in a century charismatic leader you could say “I get how people fell for this!”. But the fact it’s Trump and Musk just exposes how utterly flawed human society is, and how easy it is to slide backwards.
TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 21 hours ago
I don’t know about Clooney. His wife is one of the good eggs in this world and I’d think she would kick him in the grapes if he was a shithead loser like these fucks.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Agreed. Tom Brady being the football goat doesn’t make him being MAGA any more palatable.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
The smug bastard…
Draces@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It would make more sense.
cuban_Pete@lemy.lol 5 hours ago
scutiger@lemmy.world 29 minutes ago
This movie hasn’t aged well, for anyone who hasn’t seen it.
MangoCats@feddit.it 10 minutes ago
It was cringe when it released - it’s dated cringe now…
Tournesol@feddit.fr 20 hours ago
I have been prepared for evil, for greed, for cruelty, for injustice – but I did not anticipate that the people in power would also be such huge losers.
This. This is what I feel like
tibi@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
What’s worse is that half the population actually voted for these losers. After the losers published a document describing exactly what they are going to do. We are surrounded by idiots.
boaratio@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
He’s such a fucking dork.
SaladKing@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
No one seems to have read Machiavelli’s stuff these days. It explains so much. Also, just history in general will tell you all about today’s happenings.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The Prince was a warning of what could happen. The Drumpf is the result of ignoring the warnings.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
If they were posh people with “breeding” that wouldn’t make being the direct or indirect victim of their destruction any better, unless you’re an upper middle class Briton who has bern btought up with 19th century notions of “born to rule elites” such as most columnists for The Guardian.
I get it that people here derive a little enjoyment out of taking the piss of the character flaws of these wankers, but were they are coming from is not were this columnist is coming from.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos-- you can tell they are insecure. They became rich and powerful and now want to stomp on people.
capuccino@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
It’s like the meme of the nerd.
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
Who did Zuck stomp on?
Deceptichum@quokk.au 18 hours ago
The world? Dudes done more harm than any of the other two.
BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
He’s been implicated in the recent genocide in Myanmar. Facebook cultivated the spread of the racist lies, allowed it to proliferate, spread in the region and then shorted companies operating there. If you know there’s going to be ethnic cleansing in the region, causing outrage and destabilisation, business takes a hit and the options pay off massively. All it takes was the deaths of thousands, but hey Mark has the capital to burn on his AR pet project that nobody wants.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Zuckerburg and Facebook enable lies to spread because that’s how he makes money.
thefartographer@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
Huh, it’s almost like people who try to destroy the world are weird and shitty. I’m mostly surprised that anyone else is surprised.
InverseParallax@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Seriously, it’s like nobody else ever had to deal with a pathological narcissist or someone with BPD before in their lives.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
People expect the villains to be cool, because that’s how they’re portrayed in movies.
Skavau@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
It is indeed pathetic how Musk, Zuckerberg and even Trump don’t actually have any friends.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 14 hours ago
zuckerberg is prefer android friends.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 22 hours ago
Why wouldn’t you? Only losers seek power, and only losers could and would fuck up this badly.
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Living your life to impress other men by hating women is one of the most embarrassing things I can imagine. Looking up to any of these men for how to live your life is even sadder.
I’ve worked hard to keep these kinds of men out of my personal life, to keep them away from me, out of my goddamn sight. Now they are in my face daily, not only influencing the world for the worse but making me nauseous at how uncool and pathetic they are, on top of their other sins. It’s too much, I can’t take it, there needs to be a change.
It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.
Sounds to me like they crave attention more than anything, poor insecure past-neglected angsty man-agers they are. Depopulating their various platforms and reducing their viewership would be nice. Sucks that anyone at all would feel inclined to lend them their ears and eyes when there are far better alternatives out there.
Docker@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Great to find a like minded tribe. How about getting decentralised ?
resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 18 hours ago
Can’t they wear suits at least?
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 13 hours ago
Why was Altman missing in the story? The next ruler of the world…
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Come on, who wouldn’t want this?
selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 18 hours ago
Stupid and ugly af too…
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 16 hours ago
They all have nice shaped heads.
Zorque@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I mean, it’s kind of a prerequisite.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
It’s true that we’ve gone from “oh good now it’s cool to be a nerd!” and rapidly progressed to “oh god the really bitter ones are using their success for revenge.”
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
In general, nerds have a history of being treated badly, bullied even, by the people you are talking about.
They arent around people because people harm them more than help them.
Katana314@lemmy.world 20 minutes ago
I remember the game Bully extended this take. The main character has no beef with the nerds, and helps them, but they still extend their victim complex to him and antagonize him.
Basically, it’s a problem with using the generalized word “people” in statements like that.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
I think that’s a rather simplistic explanation tbh. There is literally a bro culture now about basically grafting capitalism onto self care that really fosters this shit too.