My wife stayed at an Airbnb last week, I tried to convince her to turn the parental controls on and block OAN and Fox.
Social media sites should have 'reverse' Parental Controls; where adult children can block their boomer/senior parents' accounts from viewing conspiracy and radicalizing content.
Submitted 15 hours ago by Snowwomen@discuss.tchncs.de to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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rumba@lemmy.zip 58 minutes ago
viking@infosec.pub 45 minutes ago
What’s OAN? Never heard of that.
Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 16 minutes ago
One America News. They used to be a fringe right-wing conspiracy website. Now they have a “news” broadcast on cable TV and a presidential administration that boosts them. It’s basically your drunk Qanon uncle rambling about lizard people, but with professional production.
nickiwest@lemmy.world 33 minutes ago
Farther right than Fox. Yes, it’s possible.
gamer@lemm.ee 40 minutes ago
Another far-right shit hole
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’m so tired of this rampant paternalism across society. It’s exhausting.
gamer@lemm.ee 38 minutes ago
paternalism
Whenever I see someone complaining about this on the internet, I imagine they’re an angsty teenager mad that their mom doesn’t let them get a face tattoo.
meliaesc@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
How do you propose to counteract the spread of facism through the internet?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
The same we fight it in the physical world. With debate and education and engagement.
Wild that you would express concern with spreading of fascism while advocating for technocracy. You don’t oppose fascism- you just have a preferred flavor of it.
Absaroka@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Any time you hear Republicans argue 18 year olds shouldn’t be able to vote, and they want to increase the age to 21/25, tell them “OK - then anybody over 65 isn’t allowed to vote either.”
MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I would settle for no one can be elected if their age is younger or older than 30 and 60.
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 7 hours ago
There already is a lower limit (must be 35), just need to add the upper
bufalo1973@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Same maximum retirement age for everyone. Politicians included.
jonne@infosec.pub 15 hours ago
If you set up parental controls on your parent’s devices I can guarantee they won’t find a way around it.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
my grandpa with dementia installed OVER 40 solitaire apps because he would go to the app store and install one every time instead of opening the ones he “couldn’t find”
now he has parental controls blocking app downloading
starlinguk@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
They will, usually by accident. Source: my father in law.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
You block Fox News using a Pi-hole?
StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Thats all good for kids since they dont know any better to begin with. Parents will bitch and complain they can no longer watch Fox news to enough people, and ‘the problem’ will get fixed.
cokeslutgarbage@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
My mom mentioned that my dad has been watching some concerning (in her words, “annoying”) YouTube content lately. Last time she said that it was America’s Got Talent, but this time it’s white men arguing with cops. I visited and asked if he would show me. He jokingly said “are you gonna violate my rights?” And I very seriously said “yes. I need to make sure it’s not Jordan Peterson or Joe Rogan or someone even worse”. He got a little bit offended and said “you know me better than that, I’m smarter than that”. But the thing is, you start by watching something innocuous like some idiot sovcit arguing with cops and the algorithm pipeline feeds you nazi shit from there and you don’t even know it.
For context, my parents are the kind of leftists that don’t know what leftists are. My mom calls herself a bleeding heart liberal, and my dad sees the media say things like “radical liberals” and jumps up off the couch screaming “you bet your ass im a radical liberal!” But they’re left of liberal, they just don’t have the language for it.
I’m not worried that my dad is gonna seek out nazi propaganda, im worried it’s gonna find him anyway and I want to throw his phone in a lake.
Maybe shower thoughts wasn’t the right community for me to have my existential crisis. But I wish i could block “sovcit” on my dad’s phone and “trad-anything” on my mom’s phone, not because I think they’re dumb (okay maybe a little) but because this shit is so toxic and intrinsic and scary and my parents are so dumb.
Take care of yourself and your loved ones xx
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
I was interested in Diablo IV when it was released which, after a few videos, led YouTube to recommend Asmondgold. I watched one or two of his videos and the next thing I know my feed is full of maga and manosphere trash. Most of it had innocuous titles and thumbnails but a few minutes in I was being bombarded with lies, bad faith arguments, logical fallacies. Don’t even get me started with where funny Garand Thumb videos will lead. All I could think of was how Al Queda and ISIS recruited people with videos posted online.
Gigasser@lemmy.world 34 minutes ago
Leftists really do need to do more gaming content.Thats all I’ll say.
teft@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Same thing happened with me and Shadiversity. I like medieval stuff and fantasy so i thought he’d be interesting.
Noooope. Just another fash scumbag.
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Imo Asmongold is good to mid, until he starts getting political, then it plummets into awful. Also yeah I think the garand thumb to far right pipeline is very real, the guy is actually quite extreme iirc
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Must be nice to have parents that haven’t turned out to be complete sociopaths.
MangoCats@feddit.it 9 hours ago
Simpler still: disenfranchise senile boomers. Of course you don’t target boomers specifically, any old person with very little time left to live and severe disconnect from reality shouldn’t be allowed to vote on what affects the rest of the world long after they are dead.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
severe disconnect from reality
Something about that doesn’t sit right with me. Seeing how far the definition of an “illegal alien” is being stretched for deportation, I have a feeling people with autism, ADHD, depression, etc, would all be added to the list of people who are “disconnected from reality”
Not to mention some people are dumb enough to argue being trans is a mental illness aswell. (dysphoria is, being trans is not)
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
They did specifically say senile in conviction with a severe disconnect from reality.
Bryllyg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
I feel the need to offer a correction. Dysphoria is a diagnosis, and is not considered to be a mental illness.
MangoCats@feddit.it 4 hours ago
inform people about what’s going on around them
I have lived all my life around retirees, people 50+ years old. I can tell you from that experience, you can inform them all you want, they’re not likely to change their opinions about anything.
TheColonel@reddthat.com 4 hours ago
I can’t speak for everyone but I raised my mom right and kept her away from that trash.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
I recently thanked my dad for not going all crazy. He fixes up old cars and takes pictures of birds.
gamer@lemm.ee 36 minutes ago
I’m jealous. Mine watches far-right extremist content on tiktok and youtube. What’s an affordable hobby that wouldn’t make an insecure man-child feel emasculated?
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
How about we just don’t censor anything?
gamer@lemm.ee 27 minutes ago
People who say this are usually consuming misinformation and propaganda and don’t know it. Anyone outside of those echo chambers can clearly see how it’s dangerous and harmful to democracy.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
And so nothing changes and probably continues to get worse.
Also, this is an attempt to block malicious influence, outright lies, and distorted reality. You’re free to access actual reality anytime.
CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I constantly refer to my parents and in-laws as children. Why because they behave exactly like my 11 year old. They have no critical reasoning skills, no emotional intelligence, are easily offended, and can not be reliability left on their own without screwing something up.
At some point around retirement age, humans seem to cognitively revert back to children and those of us in middle adulthood are left to parent our actual children and our childish parents.
BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Unfortunately I think that’s just our parents and not all old people. My parents are the same way, but it seems to me more that maturing is a choice and active process that requires effort, and many people are unwilling to put in the work and vigilance required and it leads to the above
I don’t think they’re children, I think they’re selfish lazy assholes, but the result that they need to be treated like children is the same
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
At some point around retirement age, humans seem to cognitively revert back to children
I haven’t seen that happen to everyone I know around that age. Many still have their wits about them and see the current state of affairs as a clown show. Some are even out here on the streets protesting.
lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 6 hours ago
At some point around retirement age, humans seem to cognitively revert back to children
I know someone who works in a elderly care home, she says roughly the same: “Ouderen verkindsen” (elderly turn into children)
Your cognitive abilities really do seem to diminish after a certain point, no matter where. It’s annoying they think they’re adults and demand respect…
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
My great grandmother (meemaw) had severe dementia, and one time in a moment of clarity she said I believe that you’re a child twice, at the beginning and the end.
She lived to 96. Luckily my grandparents that I loved, her daughter (mamaw) and her daughter’s husband (papaw), died relatively much sooner once dementia set it. Unfortunately my grandpa lived with it for about ten years but it was only a couple years for my grandma. In great grandma’s case, she was falling in dementia around the time I was born.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
At some point around retirement age, humans seem to cognitively revert back to children and those of us in middle adulthood are left to parent our actual children and our childish parents.
Is this true, or is this just (mostly) boomers?
mogranja@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
True. I also wanted a senior mode on Apple family groups.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
That’s what router settings do. Sorry, X is not reachable from here.
davetapley@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I love this in general, unfortunately for me my dad is a retired network engineer 😫
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
As long as you hold the passwords…
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
He still shouldn’t be able to circumvent a solid password. Sure, if the cell has signal, the home wifi settings won’t matter, but…
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
I just keep their Facebook accounts logged in on my phone. Every few months, I will go onto their profiles and unlike pages like “Wear your poppy with pride” and deradicalize their algorithm. Poppies for British boomers on Facebook are like Elsa and Spiderman on YouTube for babies.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
How are poppies radical on Facebook?
Fluke@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
Because the wearing of poppies has become synonymous with the now deduct BNP and the rest of the British right wing for a lot of us.
You can thank Stephen Yaxley-Lennon for that.
mogranja@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Very good idea there. I’m starting to have to keep track of my parents passwords (because they don’t) and removing spam/disinformation from their Facebook/email/YouTube regularly might resolve many issues.
Like someone mentioned, shoveling the shit. Can’t stopped it from getting there, but I can remove it.
boreengreen@lemm.ee 12 hours ago
Facebook slowly pushing more shit and you shoveling the shit away. Nicely done!
emax_gomax@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Lol, this is literally a south park episode.
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
no, WE THE PEOPLE should have global networks that simply remove that kind of brain rot and delete the people that perpetuate it.
MangoCats@feddit.it 9 hours ago
The first step in trustable networks is securely validated identity.
On the internet nobody knows if you’re a dog, a Russian Troll, or a corporate shill.
trolololol@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You can be all three at the same time!
Jokes apart, how would you prevent trolls and shills from trolling and shilling?
We already have a problem where real accounts get stolen because they have a history so it’s harder to be flagged as bots. And one person can open multiple accounts in multiple networks. Hell, Facebook forces people to have phone numbers and there’s still so many bots and shills there.
I don’t want this to sound like a straw man, I think there’s so many ways for bots to happen that it’s like playing wack a mole.
Katana314@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
This is the one thing I hoped for out of crypto/blockchain.
You, commenter, don’t need to know that I’m “Brian Brianson, a citizen living at 123 Abenue Avenue”. But, it’s good to know that the person commenting is a real person who has been seen and verified by someone, as a simple true/false flag. If there were good ways of verifying basic conditions of people you interact with online, without exposing personal details, then it could curb botnet opinionation as well as be useful for a lot of things.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 hours ago
Maybe I’m crazy, but I don’t think we should kill large amounts of people just because they follow a different political ideology than us. 🙄 We have to be better than these extremists to truly show them a better way…
y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
… I think he meant delete accounts, not delete actual people, but I could be wrong lol
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
just because they follow a different political ideology than us
Good thing the actual reason is the being Nazi thing, not just having a different opinion then!
Fuck Nazis and anyone who thinks they don’t deserve a slow and agonizing death
Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
XXX. incorrect. this is the kind of thinking that has allowed our civilization to fester. we tolerate the people who actively bring suffering into the world. we resist progress to appease an ignorant faction of the population. we sacrifice our collective future on an altar of liberty, all the while deluding ourselves into thinking that allowing this continued suffering is somehow ‘taking the high road’. BULLSHIT. taking the high road is nipping our problems in the bud.
the damage we would do now to eradicate the illogical mental contagion that is religion pales in comparison to the gains of untold future generations living in a near utopia (which is completely possible when you remove idiots from control and let informed science guide humanity).
Gonzako@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
The squad has taken care of the hacker
boreengreen@lemm.ee 9 hours ago
I think it would be better to make social media unprofitable with heavy regularion on data collection, trading and sharing.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Totally agree. Especially since in my country, young people are swallowing far-right propaganda at a higher rate than boomers. Canada’s Tater Tots are trying to elect a MAGA candidate right now. Age is not the problem - the well of information has been poisoned.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Adults controlling other adults isn’t “reverse” tho.
Bgugi@lemmy.world 30 minutes ago
The “reverse” here is in the context: “parental controls” is conventionally allows parents to restrict offspring.
toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
south park did it.
Zahille7@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
And they all started playing Minecraft unironically.
Love that episode.
Aneb@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I feel like we are glossing over the fact that I doesn’t matter that fact if someone is young or old, we can all have good ideas! But the fact of the matter is we need teem limits in congress and SUPREME COURT. We have a problem with stale ideas.
gamer@lemm.ee 31 minutes ago
I feel like we are glossing over the fact that I doesn’t matter that fact if someone is young or old,
Actually if you’re talking about congress and the supreme court, I think age limits would make a lot of sense. After all, the people in these positions are deciding how the rest of us get to live. If they don’t represent the generations they’re governing over, it’s inherently unfair. I think anybody who isn’t of working age shouldn’t be allowed to govern, as that’s always the most important demographic for the country.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I would whole-heartedly support this.
ameancow@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
China, now the leading global super-power, took drastic measures decades ago to make sure their population wasn’t getting indoctrinated by outside influences.
They also used this power to cover up genocides and such, but I feel like a healthier balance could be maintained if we could just get our population to understand that their unfettered access to literally anything is like opening up a wound to the world’s bacteria.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
China didn’t do that cause they care about their citizens. They did it so only they can control what propoganda their citizens consume, teaching children critical thinking and emotional regulation early in their life is a better approach than trying to turn the external world into some safe garden
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
I guess you don’t think much of your parents then if you feel like you’re a better judge of that.
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 10 hours ago
The opposite of parental controls would be blocking content made for kids
DarkMetatron@feddit.org 12 hours ago
Yeah, stripping adult people from some of their basic rights sound like a perfectly fine idea.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
So, you mean like childish control?
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Lol. What controls?
reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
It’s the right idea, but too narrow of a demographic. It’s not the old people that seem to be the problem. At least not only them. It’s the uneducated or intellect impaired that should be reined in. The ones that are just smart enough to use Facebook, but would struggle to understand the concept of the Dunning–Kruger effect
The amount of younger people that are sucked in hook, line, sinker, rod, boat, trailer and truck is staggering.
It’s like they decided that reality didn’t work for them, so let’s just ignore it in favour of “insert discriminatory slogan or catchphrase here”.
It’s bonkers.
Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 6 minutes ago
That demographic is a whole other problem that requires a whole other solution. Conservatives have spent a decade building the online right-wing pipeline with podcast bro’s and streamers aiming their content at young teenage boys. Now all those kids are of voting age, and a big chunk of them have spent half their lives being raised on manosphere bullshit that taught them that they are owed the world on a silver platter.
I will hand it to conservatives; they are frighteningly good at organizing and staying on message in ways that the Left can only dream of. If we could get half as organized as them, they’d never win another election.
viking@infosec.pub 43 minutes ago
Yeah, there’s a reason the orange overlord is targeting universities now. He knows that election wins come from the uneducated and poor. They either truly don’t know, or don’t care enough since they have no investments worth mentioning.
nickiwest@lemmy.world 32 minutes ago
You give him too much credit. He doesn’t know any of this. But the right-wing think tanks that have been waiting for this moment do, and he’s easily manipulated into following their agenda.