I actually like the volume knob shifter. The buttons ones I can live without.
You guys have to end it
Submitted 1 year ago by ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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PanArab@lemm.ee 1 year ago
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Joke is that it is an automatic
PanArab@lemm.ee 1 year ago
If an automatic is good enough for the 70 Series Land Cruiser, it is good enough for me.
DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So glad I change gears to walk up hill
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Handbrake start is only if you sucked at driving a manual ;-)
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Depends on how steep the hill is and how precise you need to be with your position. Parallel parking in San Francisco almost requires the handbrake.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
You can use one foot for the gas and brake at the same time. I’ve drove manuals for over 20 years. Including split shift commercial trucks that didn’t have hand brakes.
knobpolisher@feddit.nl 1 year ago
i like automatics for easier to crank the driveshaft
Mr_Mofu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
• Wanted to Start on a Steep Hill? We had a Tool for that: it was Called “Flooring the Gas while letting go off the Clutch”
I miss the Smell of Burned Clutch…
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We’d park my buddies Mustang on a hill wherever we went in case it wouldn’t start. LOL, everyone made fun of him saying it was a Pinto.
thebigslime@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ah the Mustang II. What a historically bad letdown.
sartalon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I was going to say, I always had my e-brake on when I parked my car and so I always started the car with it on.
Does he mean slowly let off the clutch while releasing the e-brake? Does he put on his e-brake if he stops on a hill, in traffic too!
jimmux@programming.dev 1 year ago
If you’re on a steep hill, yes sometimes you need to use the handbrake to get moving. This had to be demonstrated when I got my licence, but to be fair some manual vehicles now have automatic hill start. Still a good technique to learn because it doesn’t always activate.
Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve had to use the ebrake method before for a hill that was wayyyy too steep and a fence gate closed behind me.
You basically just let off the clutch and press on the gas until the car wants to move forward, then you let off the e brake and go without going backwards.
blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 1 year ago
The driving school I went to would fail people that used the "handbrake start" on a hill.
And also fail people that tried to drive backwards by looking back instead of using the mirrors.
0ops@lemm.ee 1 year ago
And also fail people that tried to drive backwards by looking back instead of using the mirrors.
Huh, that’s interesting because I was tought to do the opposite. In practice, I do whichever feels right, usually mirrors but I’ve noticed in pickups I’d rather just look back
devilish666@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But what about semi auto/manual transmission like DCT (dual clutch transmission) or sequential transmission ?
scytale@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I used to drive stick in one of the most dense cities and worst traffic on the planet. My left calf muscle is noticeably larger than my right. Manual is enjoyable and freeing, but at this point I prefer an automatic in urban areas with heavy traffic. The volume knob shifter is still weird though.
grue@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I live in a city famous for it’s bad traffic, but prefer driving a manual anyway (when driving a car, at least – actual first place goes to riding my bicycle).
scytale@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah, but when it takes an hour to drive 4 kms, it gets old pretty quick.
Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
What about those of us who use our triptronic transmission? I manually shift down constantly to take advantage of engine braking to make my brakes last longer. I used to ride a motorcycle so it made sense to me. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manumatic
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
you aren’t supposed to show people what the control panel to the mcflurry machine looks like
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
“How many hydraulic levers you need?”
“All of them”
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Biblically accurate transmission
FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 year ago
US: predominantly automatic transmission, low speed limits
Germany: predominantly manual transmission, higher speed limits and no limits on most of the autobahns (motorways)
US road deaths per capita twice of Germany.
Draw your own conclusions.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Quick Google
In 2024 36% of Germans reported using the car daily.
In 2023 95.3% of Americans older than 16 drive on occasions.
83 million Germans, 63% above 16
340 million Americans, 65% above 16
52 million potential drivers in Germany, 17 million actually drive
221 million potential drivers in America, 210 million drive daily
17 million vs 210 million daily drivers
~12x more drivers, only 2x more death
Per capita isn’t really a way to look at it
Besides automatic cars or lack of a manual transmission is not causing accidents.
Chance of death goes up significantly with speed
No one has ever crashed because they couldn’t go over the speed limit
BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 year ago
83 million Germans, 63% above 16
Not sure why you think this is relevant. Children aren’t allowed to drive in Germany.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Downvoters mad to find out cars are inherently unsafe and need very good infrastructure and to be remotely safe.
Downvoters mad that E~k~= ½mv^2^, and speed, funnily enough, is dangerous.
Downvoters mad that manual transmission isn’t making cars safer.
Car go vroom vroom, but public transport go better
Fax
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
crank0271@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What if we’re too American to draw an appropriate conclusion from that?
Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Probably more related to the god-awful infrastructure design in the US, like stroads and an unfathomable tendency to use stop signs for a lot of things they are just not fit for, like to replace speed bumps, chicanes, and roundabouts.
Also the better comparable statistic should be deaths per distance traveled in cars.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Germany has much stricter requirements to get a driver’s license. That leads to better driving skills on average.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Chicanes are the best part about riding a sport bike! I get to drag knees on public roads!
Eheran@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Here is the list 6.9 vs 4.2 deaths per 1 billion km. 12.8 vs. 3.35 per 100’000 inhabitants.
But you need both for a fuller puncture, not everyone involved/dieing is in a vehicle.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 year ago
Not to mention the DUI rates in the US are astronomical. Over 1/3 of motor fatalities are alcohol related in the US.
Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I would, but I ran out of crayons
griff@lemmings.world 1 year ago
I will continue to steadfastly drive only with my disease transmission
hOrni@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You guys do realize this is supposed to be a parody of boomer bullshit arguments right?
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They don’t, and that’s the way I like 'em!
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah but I love my manual tbh
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Oh good I got here before the lemmy fuck cars brigade showed up
grue@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hi, !fuckcars mod here. I absolutely love my manual transmissions and unironically fully endorse this meme.
Cars ought to be like horses: they should be available for enthusiasts to play with, but it should be wholly unnecessary and kinda ridiculous to use them as routine transportation, especially in cities. Frankly, I would prefer it if all transmissions were manual, as it would help encourage people who see driving as a chore to use other transportation modes instead.
0ops@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah I honestly love driving, but I love walking and biking too. Just because I’m a car enthusiast doesn’t mean that I don’t wish that my city was more walkable or had actual public transport.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
The perfect transmission UI was the Teletouch on the Ford Edsel. And if anyone tries to argue I’ll say “nuh uh,” run away, and cry.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Agreed
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 1 year ago
i miss my stick
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There must be a trans joke in here somewhere.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 1 year ago
don’t eat the crab dip!
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Happens at higher age
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As a classically trained driver I’ve found automatics make people drive worse because they have to think less. And they already barely think.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Stupid is as stupid does. A significant portion of trucking accidents involve the truck driver missing a cue because they were mid gear change.
While it is good to have a person learn to drive stick, it is really hard to get people to learn how to drive if they have zero interest in actually learning how to be a driver, no matter what transmission.
I personally like dual clutch transmissions and daily’ed a car to 175k miles with one, yet I went out of my way to find a manual version of my current car.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I mean, I’ve driven only automatics my whole life, with the odd exception of a friend’s ATV or whatnot, but I know when and how to use an e brake (and/or dual foot the brake pedal and gas pedal) to start a car on an incline, when said car has an automatic transmission…
You’re not gonna uninvent automatic transmissions.
Assuming you’re American (I doubt a non American would name themselves ‘Boomer Humor’), what you could do is mandate people completely retest, written and driving tests, for their liscenses every 5 years, then every 2 years after some age cutoff (60? 65?) then every single year after another age cutoff (70? 75?)… instead of just assuming that because they passed the test once in their life, all their skills and knowledge are perfect and up to date for the rest of their lives.
Most people think they are much better drivers than they actually are, so lets actually reality check them on that.
hOrni@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Only just noticed Your username. For a moment I thought You were serious.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If I was serious I’d say no human is sane enough to drive.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you sing an aria by Mozart or something when you drive? But anyway, in my experience driving manual makes people more distracted because they have to think about gears and the clutch and stuff. Sure, a competent driver will not have any difficulty with that, but there’s an awful lot of them out there that don’t quite fall into that category.
MichaelScotch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You must not know how to drive a manual. When you know how to drive one, you don’t think about it. You just do it. You feel connected to the car and connected to the act of driving. Automatics absolutely allow people to go on autopilot and they focus on anything but driving: stuffing their face with food, browsing lemmy, texting, talking on their phone on speaker while holding it up to their mouth for some fucking reason even though it would be easier and better sound quality to just hold it up to their ear like phones were designed to be used, or you know, just use the fucking hands free phone calling that’s built into every fucking car that was made in the last decade and a half and included in every cheap ass aftermarket stereo system available on the planet
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No I let my exhaust do the singing. It’s like playing a really simple pipe organ.
hOrni@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What the fuck is a “classically trained driver”?
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 year ago
like going to a prestigious school for drivers?
thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mom took him to a big office building parking lot on a Sunday when it was quiet. At least that’s how this classically trained driver learned.
papalonian@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He was taught by the same institute that taught Beethoven to drift.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Didn’t go to one of those lousy postmodern driving schools I think
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Like Robert Wells or Bill Nye.
baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Manual occupies their phone hand. How is someone supposed to heart content so the algorithm gives them more of it!
Using the PRiNDle opens one up for so many activities.
archonet@lemy.lol 1 year ago
using the PRiNDle
mlg@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol that handbrake start is utterly useless if you live anywhere that’s actually hilly all over.
You’ve got to learn the proper clutchwork from the very start or you’ll be taking years on every hill.
Unless you’re starting from a cold start on a hill without ABS, I guess it could a safety precaution.
lunarul@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In my native country that was a requirement for the driving test.
NielsBohron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I live in the Sierra Nevada Mountains and regularly drove my standard transmission in San Francisco (one of the hilliest cities in North America), and used my hand brake all the time to maintain my position while I engaged the transmission. I’m not really sure what you’re on about…
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As a manual driver living in Seattle and driving a large truck, I can say it’s totally unnecessary if you have the right skills. The handbrake start is a handicap unless you’re Dr ving a vehicle with a worn out clutch.
0ops@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah, I’ve heard tons of tricks over the years.
Just be fast. That’s the trick, practice and you’ll get fast at applying just the right amount of clutch in an instant.
mattreb@feddit.it 1 year ago
I’m curious, how do u do it? I mean you need a foot on gas and one clutch to start, how do you keep your car still without handbrake (other than just being quick after moving away from the brake)?