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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • thawed_caveman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can’t believe i’m saying this, but… I think mosquitos don’t deserve this. There’s basically no life form that deserves our cruelty more than mosquitoes, but this is too cruel.

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  • andshit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    LOL FUCK EM

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  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We genetically engineered mosquitoes to have gender dysmorphia - weird times.

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    • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They are turning the frogs gay mosquitoes trans!

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  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is as sad as watching the Terminator try to kill people with a broken gun. Alexa, play “in the arms of the angels”

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  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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  • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    On the one hand this is creepy as hell

    On the other fuck mosquitoes

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Great. First science was the big the frogs gay. Now it’s turning the mosquitos trans.

      What’s next? Lesbian amoebas? Pansexual algae?

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      • gimsy@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Has science gone too far? No

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  • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d like to see any scientific study that reassures at least a little that this won’t have terrible ramifications for ecosystems and the food chain.

    We know too little, we are shortsighted and we have a bad record of intervening with nature.

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    • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s a pretty ineffective strategy, but I’m just going off this one photo.

      If it’s genetic, and the females can’t get a blood meal, then they won’t lay any eggs to pass on those genetics and just die.

      Then the ones without that gene will lay all their eggs and the next generation will be unchanged and they have to spend all that money again to do whatever they did which had no effect.

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      • general_kitten@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Knowing a bit about crispr my understanding is that crispr is the technology that can be used to circumvent that scenario by making the effects kind of like an genetic time bomb

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  • HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    One day we will be Gods

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  • bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We have suffered for millions of years under mosquitos are they are likely the biggest killer of humans in history. Maybe us evolving big brains and developing genetic engineering is an evolutionary necessity?

    Or as Harbinger said: “We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution. You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it.”

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    • NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is that mass effect?

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      • bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yep :)

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  • nednobbins@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I get the feeling of discomfort but it’s basically the same feeling we get when someone breaks a pencil

    There is no evidence that a mosquito is capable of feeling the kind of despair or horror that a human would feel in a similar situation. It’s unlikely that mosquitos can form emotions at all.

    At the same time, a huge portion of human-animal interactions involve the human controlling the animal in ways that they animal can’t even comprehend. A dog has no idea you’re doing operant conditioning to change their behavior. Pigs have no idea they’re being fed just so they and their children can be eaten.

    The only way to avoid this kind of thing is to turn off your big human brain and go back to ape tier. We might need to go farther down the tier list than that though en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

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  • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We gave a mosquito gender dysphoria?

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    • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We have created tomboy mosquito. Humanity has peaked.

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I get the caution about unintended consequences but damnit of all the crazy planetary issues we’re dealing with right now, I’d rank

    “oops, got rid of West Nile and Malaria as well as annoying little red bumps from wandering too far from big cities”

    As a win, the consequences of which we can probably figure out how to deal with when we come to it.

    I know it doesn’t work that way but I’d trade all the world’s mosquitoes to keep the polar bears or pangolins or something any day.

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    • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Mosquitoes are the bottom of the food chain. There’s reason to be worried about this getting out of hand

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  • Fleur_@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who knew this whole time I was team mossie

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    DIE, DIE, DIE

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  • LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is what vegans want. They want to take your virile bloodsucking proboscus and replace it with a limp dick fruit licker.

    BAN ALL VEGANS

    (Small /s)

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As a Brazilian, I won’t feel sorry for these fuckers.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!

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      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The only good bug is a dead bug.

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a nice idea. But I wonder what the long term ramifications might be. What ripple effects might happen that we can’t see today that end up being problems in the future.

    Human history is littered with such problems.

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Genetically engineer them to grow to the size of Cessna. Ride them to battle

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  • discusseded@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is amazing. Far better than killing them off.

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    • anknown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Shouldn’t you include /s tag here

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      • yrmp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not a biologist, but it actually is better on paper. They can still pierce other animals. Just not humans. They stay part of the food chain for amphibians and birds or what not, we don’t get malaria. Seems like a win-win.

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  • CptEnder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ok but mosquitoes historically are the #1 killers of humans, by an order of magnitude. This could be argued as a form of evolution. We simply engineered them out as a threat. GG get gud scrub, see you in 3 million years when you have your own AI generated bioengineering.

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    • exasperation@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ok but mosquitoes historically are the #1 killers of humans, by an order of magnitude

      Homo sapien: am I a joke to you?

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Right, but consider:

    Fuck them bugs

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    • prex@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Image

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    • loutr@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hey, most bugs are cool and an important part of their ecosystem.

      Mosquitoes tho ? Yeah, fuck them.

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      • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        as much as i’d love to agree with that-

        mosquitos are pollinators and an important food source for quite a few animals. Our eco system would not be fine if we got rid of them

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    • foiledAgain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ironclad reasoning. Flawless execution. Give this person a doctorate

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That seems mild.

    Could we try to convince the males that they are the ugliest things on earth so they find large animals that can step on them?

    Maybe come up with a liquid that you put in standing water that makes the mosquitoes grow very tiny legs and a very large left wing? You know, so they have to fly to move and they can only fly spinning like crazy.

    I got a better one! Make them neon bright and glow in the dark. Make those fuckers be the center of attention. I’m talking kids with nets and old guys with cameras and microscopes with single mosquito flashes (like 1 mosquitoes per photo). And of course sugar sweet flavor? Everything under the sun trying to find them and eat them as snacks. I kinda like this one the best.

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    • Gloomy@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And this is it. This is how we arrive were we are now.

      Nature? KILL IT! EXTERMINATE IT!

      We’ve spend 2000 years slowly being nature to our wims. It has destroyed the planets ecosystem on a scale only seen by planet wide desasters in the past. We have driven countless species into extinction, and still counting. We take without any regard or resecpt for anything then our own needs.

      That is exactly the mindset the comment I am replying to has to me.

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      • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Neon bright mosquitoes that glow in the dark? Heck yeah! I’ll keep some in a jar for Halloween 🎃😄!

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      • weker01@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes!

        Total mutual destruction is the only way™

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  • P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, have you ever seen a pug? They’re fighting for air their entire life. Or chihuahua’s? Awful personality and bred out of usefulness.

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    • CptEnder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “You see what we do to the things we love??? What the fuck do you think we’re going to do to you?!”

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah they’re my soul animals

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    • cjk@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Chihuahuas can have a not completely closed cranial bone (is this the right word?), which means if you pet them at the wrong place you literally can touch the brain and potentially kill them. My mood would be bad, too, if this was the case for my body.

      Pugs also can have their eyes popping out if you handle them wrong (e.g. gripping them at their neck).

      The head of King Charles Spaniels are to small, meaning their brain does not have enough room. This can lead to brain fluids getting stuck in the head, which increases pressure on the brain, leading to infathomable headaches, hallucinations, motor deficits, etc, pp.

      Breeding some dog breeds should really be prohibited.

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      • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        . This can lead to brain fluids getting stuck in the head, which increases pressure on the brain, leading to infathomable headaches, hallucinations, motor deficits, etc, pp.

        Oh man I can never enjoy their derpy look again, knowing it’s because their brain doesn’t have room.

        Breeding some dog breeds should really be prohibited.

        Strong agree. Although there are also breeders doing “healthy” versions of pugs, German sheperds (their hips are awful for them, but the back “sliding down” to low hips was considered an essential characteristic for the race), French bulldogs, etc.

        For pugs they’re calling it “retro pug” and essentially theyre trying to get to what the breeds was before fancy European dog breeders started valuing aesthetics more than say, the dog being able to breathe.

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    • amzd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or the chickens you eat? They can’t even stand up out of their own feces

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  • Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I am a hippy nature person who tries to be merciful and kind to plants or insects. The sole exception is mosquitoes. Those fuckers want to take my blood and dont settle for one serving if they get the chance. Were in a biological armrace and so far we’ve been loosing. Let’s see how they like being fucked with.

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    • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also ticks.

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      • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I would take 100 mosquito bites over one tick. One of the only creatures in nature to scare the hell out of me. And I own snakes.

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  • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why not just eradicate them? Genuine question. I don’t think they serve any purpose in nature and are just pissing off every living being.

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    • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well, they actually do have their ecological roles and it is always a hard decision if one should interfere on such a large scale with biological systems. We might think that we understand it, but it could be totally wrong. Really hard to predict. Mosquitoes are an important food source for other animals and are also pollinators.

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    • fanbois@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Eradication is really hard. If you just kill mosquitoes in a certain area, what’s gonna stop them from coming back? You’re just not gonna get all of them.

      This way you introduce a mutation that can actually propagate through the gene pool, disabling the undesired trait for future generations. It’s also highly selective, so that you don’t accidentally get rid of other species or poison an area with pesticides.

      Also living beings have no “purpose”. They fill an evolutionary niche and shape the ecological system around them to a degree.

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    • amzd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They need blood to procreate so the method in the post does exactly what you are asking for

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    • kerrigan778@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They absolutely serve purpose in nature, they are a significant food source for bats and many other insects and males are pollinators.

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    • Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bats eat mosquitoes so we be killing off bats food supply. So just get bats and solve your mosquitoe problem.

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    • Kellamity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Putting aside questions of ecosystems etc, I think the main reason is that we just can’t - ironic since we seem to be extint-ing all the other animals

      In South America they tried in the 50s and 60s, and more kept cropping up. They breed so quickly, if you miss an area they can just rebound. Then more can come in on ships and stuff

      So you couldn’t really localise it, it would have to be a huge global undertaking. And it would likely require widespread use of pesticides that are at best tricksy and at worst illegal, not to mention environmentally shitty

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      • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Also significant politics within the field preventing integrated approaches to control. It’s possible we could target specific species of mosquito that are vectors for deadly disease, with the intent of eradicating the disease by suppressing the vector. It would be the greatest collective undertaking of human kind. We’d have to shelf things like international borders and profits.

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      • ricecake@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Most modern plans for eradication involve creating a virus that handles it, rather than a pesticide.
        Have the virus introduce a gene that takes a few generations of breeding in the impacted population before it starts to debilitate or sterilize the mosquitoes. That way your virus can start to kill the population even as it spreads to areas that were missed.

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    • medgremlin@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Many species of mosquitos are reliant on blood for reproduction. The females utilize a “blood meal” for the nutrients for laying eggs to be fertilized. Additionally, it is the female mosquito bite that transmits diseases like malaria.

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  • letsgo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah but those little bastards started it. People call what’s happening in Gaza a genocide but that’s nothing compared with the mozzie kill count.

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  • Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Horrible and unethical idea: We modify the mosquito to strongly prefer the blood of some specific animal species. Said species will then be raised in captivity only for it to be sacrificed to the mosquitos. This way they get to procreate and spread the modified gene to new generations, and keep them alive for the ecosystem to feed on.

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  • normalexit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I find the compromise acceptable. Please roll out the mosquito killing technology asap.

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    • glitch1985@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Harbor freight sells an electric flyswatter. The time is now!

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  • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I actually love seeing mosquitoes struggle to survive. I don’t care if they’re incapable of morality, they’re evil and I hate them.

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    • racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hate them too but they are just trying to eat and breed, just like us. So kill them with mercy.

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      • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Maybe to that entire comment

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      • dumbass@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If they weren’t one of the biggest apreaders of viruses you’d be right, but, that’s my god damn blood, I made it, it’s mine to keep, inside of me preferably.

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      • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes to that entire comment.

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      • BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah they’re not like wasps, hornets, and yellow jackets, who know nothing but hate and malice in their yellow and black striped hearts.

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      • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No to that entire comment.

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