Submitted 2 months ago by ApollosArrow@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
I was trying to think of which games created certain mechanics that became popular and copied by future games in the industry.
The most famous one that comes to my mind is Assassin’s Creed, with the tower climbing for map information.
Crush the Castle inspired Angry Birds and several other games with the same catapult mechanic. Loved that flash game way before Angry Birds was put on the App Store.
funny how no one mentioned World of Warcraft for MMOs because it’s too obvious.
There were popular MMOs before WoW, such as Runescape and Everquest. WoW just took a popular genre and rocketed it into the stratusphere.
The question was, “what games popularized certain mechanics.” The question was not, “what games created or introduced certain mechanics.”
Yes, there were other MMOs before WoW, but WoW took MMOs to a completely new level of popularity. I didn’t play ANY MMOs before WoW and wasn’t really interested to, but it was so popular that I jumped on to see what the deal was. Since then I have played ESO, LOTRO, AOC, and one other whose name I forget.
Other MMOs were popular among gaming nerds before WoW, but WoW made MMOs popular to normal people.
I tried UO, AC, EQ1+2 and can say that WoW’s beloved IP, look and feel, and relative lack of clunkiness in the controls and animations were big differentiators for me.
because it’s flat out wrong. WoW aped most of its systems from Everquest, which most of WoW’s development team was actively playing. They made some improvements on the genre, but the bones existed as early as 1997 with Ultima Online.
WoW was like the iPhone of MMOs. Didn’t invent anything, just put it all together in a coherent, accessible, user friendly package.
the question was “popularized” not “invented”.
Arma 2-3 have been responsible for at least 3 major multiplayer genres.
SovietWomble has a video essay that touches this topic.
Ocarina of Time is the mother of modern 3D gaming with Z-targeting.
I’m not 100% sure if factorio was the first, but the devs at Wube certainly perfected the idea and now there’s a whole market for the “factory game” genre.
Even if it’s not the first, I’d say it’s the first that figured out that computers were powerful enough that you can have a gobsmackingly huge factory.
Don’t know if this counts, but Resident Evil 4 killed off the tank controls and single-handedly popularised third person cameras for survival horror games.
Resident Evil 4 still had tank controls, but it moved the camera behind the back. Unlike dual analog third person shooters at the time, it did have one major innovation: it moved the character to the left side of the screen so you could more easily see what’s in front of you.
I think Halo was what popularized the twin stick controls.
Not even just survival horror, RE4 was a landmark title just as a third-person action shooter. It had a huge influence on the generation of third person shooters that came after it.
WASD + mouse aim in FPS. Wolf3d, Doom1 and Blakestone used the arrow keys, spacebar and Ctrl back in the day. The arrows were turn, not strafe too.
I reckon it was some friends of mine in the 90s in Box Hill, Melbourne, Victoria who were the first to use WASD/mouse aim. Share house above a shop at the end of a tram line.
Quake 1 popularized mouselook
Metroid, which spawned more than half of all indie games.
More than half seems bold, otherwise I agree
It sure feels like more than half of them label themselves as some blend of metroidvania, as long as it isnt a cardbattler or a roguelike, its 100% going to label iteslf a metroidvania.
I was hoping an article existed!
Dune II - basically the grandfather of every RTS game or there. Teams, resource collection, tech tree, fog of war, et cetera. Or preussiske it was (not World of) War raft, it’s been too long and memory gets fuzzy.
Dune I and II were in development in parallel. One of them was cancelled (don’t remember which one), but they forgot to tell the company, IIRC.
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Warcraft 1 came after Dune (and Blizzard were big fans, IIRC), either way. It enabled multi-selection (based on spreadsheet programs, IIRC).
Sorry about the surprise prussians. I was never any good at typing on glass, I much prefer an actual keyboard.
Warcraft started an entire genre of games. Blizzard took that concept and created StarCraft, which spawned million dollar tournaments.
You mean RTS games? Warcraft is from ‘94, two years after Dune 2 was released.
I think he means Mobas or Tower Defense games
Yeah, however before Warcraft there was Dune II. But I am not sure which one was more popular at the time and I think Dune II came way before Warcraft.
I think why Dune II is more notable though is that the first Dune game was more of an adventure style came, not a strategy game. Then they changed the game with its successor and introduced the asymmetrical factions that each had a few unique units with differing strategies.
Warcraft took that concept further of course. But even there its rather Warcraft II that really had a big breakthrough.
Souls games. Popularized invasions.
Perfect example that “popularized” is different from “popular”.
And also the concept of your collection of souls being recoverable from your last point of death.
I know the “death bag” mechanic had been done before, but the disappearing cache is a core element of Soulslike gameplay that has been repeated so many times since then. It adds a sense of urgency and FOMO to the recovery of your stuff. If you die again, it’s gone for good.
Rouge rougelike
*rogue Roguelike
Though rougelike certainly sounds like an interesting genre too 😉
I’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone say Pokemon. From a. monster collecting/battle game nothing has really came close.
The Sims for the scrub-the-toilet mechanic.
Dune 2 for it popularized RTS genre. C&c to bring it to the masses
I feel like Call of Duty 4 modernized and standardized the FPS genre on at least consoles. Every call of duty game still looks and feels exactly the same since CoD4 and every other first person shooter copied it’s control scheme because it was so firmly cemented.
What did CoD 4 introduce that Halo 3 hadn’t already done 2 months prior?
Real world weapon customization comes to mind. Other than that I don’t know, I haven’t played Halo 3.
Dark Souls popularized the stamina meter and the “dropping all your money on death and having to go pick it back up” mechanic. Not to mention spawning a subgenre of similar games like Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen
The first Dark Souls was 2011. Diablo was released in 1997. World of Warcraft was 2004 and while you didn’t quite drop all your stuff and money you die you did have to run back to your corpse to keep from having all your stuff degrade and cost a bunch of money. The first Sonic was 1991 and getting hit makes you drop all your “money” and have to pick it back up.
It isn’t a question of who did it first, it’s a question of who made it popular. Look at how many games have a death run since DS came out. Hollow Knight, Nioh, Blasphemous, etc. It’s also not the same mechanic as losing your items on death.
Mechanic wise the first was Demons Souls in 2009. But your point still stands.
They did spawn a sub genre, but the stamina meter being popularized is nonsense.
I had a stamina meter in Morrowind in 2002 and in daggerfall in 1996.
Those mechanics were lifted/copied straight from Monster Hunter, mind you :)
The PS2 and PSP Monster Hunter games are basically dark souls but you gotta kill giant bosses to transform their scales into better armor and weapons.
Dark Souls is literally just Legend of Zelda for adults, which had a stamina system at about the same time Kings Field did. It’s honestly hilarious to me that it became known as the father of the genre, but the immediate copycats were also aiming for a similar tone to FromSoftware so I guess it’s fair.
Why hasn’t anybody named Worl of Warcraft? They definitely made a shift in the mmorpg scene…
Or Tomb Raider for the first big budget movie adaptation.
But WoW didn’t really do anything new, just bigger, better, with a lot more funding. Everquest and Ultima Online did everything first, they just didn’t have that Blizzard money.
Sure, credit where credit is due, but profits and reached audience are also very valid benchmarks eventhough they are evil capitalist terms. History is full of inventions that didn’t take off until some big corporation took interest in it.
This might be a little on the side of the main topic but there was always something cool about Crash Bandicoot 100 Apples > 1 Life, and you could grind more to make some levels more forgiving, like semi-adjustable difficulty level based on your previous approach… And later on — warp zones, you get to choose from a few options so the progression has variation.
Another thing that comes to mind, not sure if a first game to do it, THPS for unlocking movies and later cheat codes, modes and characters for finishing the career. Plus the whole gap marathon for Private Carrera.
100 Apples > 1 Life, and you could grind more to make some levels more forgiving, like semi-adjustable difficulty level based on your previous approach… And later on — warp zones, you get to choose from a few options so the progression has variation.
100 coins = 1UP and warp zones? And… you think they’re from Crash Bandicoot?
Well, when I was writing that, after midnight I will add, I had this feeling that Mario was doing this thing earlier but for me Mario stands as an icon for the first level design overall as a golden standard for introduction to mechanics and really efficient use of memory for data, and one of the first uses of dynamic music… So you are totally right, Mario brought a lot of things, I’ve just played Crash much more.
Im pretty sure the actual, physical Trading card games like MtG and Pokemon gave us all these games with card mechanics in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Culdcept (1997), Baiten Kaitos (2003), Kingdom Hearts - Chain of Memories (2004). Then the card games weren’t as popular for a bit, then the digital ones died out.
And then Blizzard released Hearthstone in 2014. I haven’t played the other ones to know for sure, but I believe Yu-Gi-Oh Master duels crafting system can directly trace it’s roots to it. Trade cards for dust of a specific rarity, dust from 3 can form a new card, Shiny cards give enough dust on their own for any card, etc. .
I really thought hearthstone came out much easier than 2014.
I think it had like a year long beta where people were playing before full release. I know I was personally playing in 2013.
I wonder what the source of the RTS conventions was. Ctrl num for making groups. Double press to centre on group. X for scattering units. A to stop them. Pretty sure these predate C&C but the only one before that I can think of is dune.
Dune was the second RTS ever though
Maybe because that one didn’t come from videogames. Selection sets or groups have been a thing on UI for a long time, ever since vertex editor on CAD software.
How about the flowing hair on Lara Croft in Tomb Raider 2 and later?
From my understanding, they wanted to have that working for TR1 but missed the deadline, so Lara got a atatic hair bun in TR1.
Gothic had NPC pathfinding and behavior routines before Bethesda did it with Morrowind (and Gothic did it better).
Minecraft singlehandedly created a genre called “Survival”.
I think most of the games around 2005’s Indie Game Boom created lots of brilliant mechanics that’s been copied still.
Single-handedly? Nah. It pulled a lot of existing ideas together though, and it’s certainly responsible for the popularity. Another Minecraft influence is early-access.
Another one that comes to mind (that someone can correct me on). Was Uncharted the game that made the “no health bar, but redder screen as you are close to dying” popular?
Nah, CoD2 switched to health regen and dumped the health bar before them. It was partially to adapt to the console gameplay pioneered by, IIRC, Bungee with Halo.
Area 88 did something like that back in the SNES days.
BigLgame@lemy.lol 2 months ago
People always forget that resident evil 4(? There is a million of them) made third person shooters mainstream.
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What are you smoking? That’s like a 2005 game.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_shooter
Hell, Max Payne was definitely more popular, and it came out in 2001.
BigLgame@lemy.lol 2 months ago
Well you are right but I’m talking about the style and feel that one of those earlier pivot resident evils created. It plays the same as gears of war and all other cover shooters that followed. Sure third person existed but everything today plays in a way that series established.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
not 3rd person shooters, but over the shoulder camera.
BigLgame@lemy.lol 2 months ago
Yeah that’s a better way to put it, everything that followed took that same path