Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Tesla Cybertruck’s stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla’s Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck’s stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.
Seriously, having been hit by a fairly rounded Impreza at low speed that still did significant damage, I’m shivering at the thought of what these edges would do to soft tissue and bone in the same conditions.
Yeah cars should definitely not be colliding with people. The results are horrible. Welcome to civilization with cars, where our overall strategy for minimizing the death cars to do pedestrians is based on collision avoidance rather than making car-pedestrian collisions safe.
Making car-pedestrian collisions safe is a ridiculous idea failed to doom from the start. Cars are big and hard, people are small and squishy.
I think the key is to prevent cars and people from coexisting as much as possible.
That is what you get when you slack on pedestrian safety. This a regulations problem, not a Tesla problem.
usa.streetsblog.org/…/while-other-countries-manda…
However, under the federal government’s current safety rating system, known as the New Car Assessment Program (NCAP), almost every vehicle gets a four- or five-star rating. That’s because the system only takes into account the safety of those within cars, not all the people walking, pushing strollers, biking, or taking transit outside them.
Brings back some “carmageddon” nostalgia though.
Yeah, this cybertruck would fit right into the game.
Hmm, that is a game I haven’t played in two decades.
could hurt pedestrians and cyclists
I dare you to convince me that anyone still buying Tesla would not see that as a benefit. That’s going to be the number one selling point of this thing after articles like this make their rounds.
I am a Tesla owner and a cyclist. It’s not a benefit.
Did you buy your Tesla recently, and would you buy one now if you didn’t have one already?
Why the fuck do people hate on the one class of people using the most efficient form of transportation that also provides exercise in a world that can’t stop spewing greenhouse gasses (For electric cars, those greenhouse gasses are being spewed at the power plant instead of from the car itself) and people don’t get enough exercise?
Fucking. Madness. Cyclists should be applauded and not targeted.
You have serious issues and world view problems to even begin to think things like that about people.
This thing is huge, it does 0-60 in under 3 seconds, has sharp angles, and its styling does not seem to target the sensible end of the market… It’s like an industrial strength pedestrian destroyer.
And as a bonus it actually looks like something out of Carmageddon.
I shudder to think what one of those cybertrucks would do if it tried to plow through a crowd of protesters.
It’s actually a pussy-magnet.
Even the pasty-facediest of incels will have no problems getting laid showing up in one of these bad boys.
It’s just how the world works 🤷
“Raises”?
That was a concern the day it was unveiled years ago
Didn’t expect them to act this stupid. They have no damn solution for this mammoth of a tin box, exerting pressures way above what is needed to obliterate any living thing at speed.
The solution is to only sell them in the USA which has no pedestrian safety standards
Yup, that’s vehicles for ya
Yeah but actual production models only became available Dec 1st, and production is still low until sometime next year without any additional delays.
Don’t they have to safety test these things before they sell them?
It looks exactly like a ‘rad car’ that I doodled in my social studies notebook after slamming two bottles of Robitussin.
You should take Tesla to court for stealing your idea
And get the judge to make them pay damages in the form of pallets of Robitussin!
I don’t like Teslas, Musk or the cyber truck but it can’t be any more dangerous than the 4 ft wall of radiator traditional pickups have now. Not saying this isn’t a concern but I am way more concerned about the millions of pedestrian crushing rolling walls already on the road.
I’m pretty sure it actually is significantly more dangerous. The front end of traditional pickups will still crumple and absorb a great deal of force. If the cybertruck is more rigid and the sharp edges have a potential to gash pedestrians on impact, that’s two factors that don’t apply to current pickups.
So are we really contemplating pickup trucks as more safe in a pedestrian collision because they have crumple zones?
When a truck hits a pedestrian and the front of the truck crumples, is that pedestrian okay?
I don’t actually know the ride height but it looks like the cyber truck has a much lower nose when driving on normal roads compared to a lot of trucks, so while it may be very stiff, maybe it’ll just launch you over the hood.
Your wording makes it sound like the existence of even more dangerous trucks somehow excuses this dangerous truck. Both the 4 ft wall and the sharp metal blade edges are dangerous and irresponsible designs.
I’m not excusing it at all, I think it’s one of the worst vehicles ever made, too big, heavy and fast. People are for sure gonna crash these beasts.
What I meant was I’d like to see traditional truck designs that have millions of vehicles on the road be scrutinized before the 10 cyber trucks. You’re way more likely to be hit by a regular truck which has a deadly design than a cyber truck just because of how many more are on the road.
And those are largely banned from the EU as well. The issue is the lack of regulation in the US, it’s killing pedestrians daily.
Tesla seem confident it’ll be safer in part because of that.
I’m wondering if they’ve done some something that can lower the front further if an imminent crash is about to happen with a pedestrian to lower the nose even more.
You think they’d have advertised a feature like that though by now, so maybe not, but I bet they could.
That front trunk just looks like a guillotine
Again, this whole thing smacks of some entitled person (hmmm, who though?) who knows nothing, making design decisions that are stupid and self indulgent.
I call it “The Homer”, just like the episode where Homer designed a car. You know the result…
No I don’t
Who would buy this piece of crap? Like really?
Possibly unpopular opinion but I think the Cybertruck is about as dumb-looking as most any other truck on the market. 4 big doors, more cabin than bed, trucks in general are all goofy looking parking lot crawlers nowadays
Shit on me if you must but I actually like the look and features of the car. However I likely wouldn’t buy a Tesla in general
Tools
A lot of people. Bunch of my coworkers were hyped about the release.
Fellow narcissists.
I think the main market was supposed to be like a utility vehicle. It’s got some nice specs for actual work purposes for an electric vehicle, while saving money on making a pretty body.
I don’t know why some people like the look and want it for recreational use.
I hope this monstrosity will never be approved in Europe. Imagine the impact passengers of a Twingo or any other small city cat will experience in the unfortunate case of a head collision
Safety concerns…who would have thought? This cannot be an actual recent concern. Everybody could see the safety issues from the day it was unveiled…
Good thing safety regulation is the reason why we hopefully will not see this monstrosity on EU roads.
It’s not a recent concern, it’s been talked about since the initial reveal
Here we go again, trying to shame a narcissist out of doing the thing he was doing to get you to react by shaming him.
If you ever felt like your truck didn’t look and drive enough like a prep counter, Elon Musk has got your back.
But, like a prep counter, the blood washes off easily
Pretty easy to solve. Just pay those experts to stfu. Shouldn’t be a problem for musk
How long till these things are all sitting in random scrappers in the Mojave?
Meme car is real.
Don’t have to pay pain and suffering to the dead
Rasied this being an issue on the Marces Brown video, the finishing on those panels is pretty backyard with exposed edges of pretty sharp steel. I also think the steel is going to look like shit after a couple of years when the coatings fade off. A lot of design choices for people who are scared of driving, which usually makes them really bad for use in a public space.
Marces Brown
Marques Brownlee
People are going to be pissed when they find out cyclists lose in collisions against any vehicle, not just prototype electric trucks.
Good argument for separate infrastructure.
The angular design of Tesla’s Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck’s stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.
If anyone actually cared about this they’d be going after Ford and Chevy, not a vehicle that isn’t even available to the public yet.
Raises concerns just now? There’s a reason why civilian cars don’t look like military atvs - because they are not military atvs
This is never going to be available in Europe. Sad because I like it. Can’t afford it in 100yrs but would like to see others drive it.
I don’t jump the hype and hate it just because “Elon made that”. It is a cool shape, different than other cars. Doug DeMuro would have his hands full with all the quircks&features.
“The big problem there is if they really make the skin of the vehicle very stiff by using thick stainless steel, then when people hit their heads on it, it’s going to cause more damage to them,”
Why are they hitting their heads on it? Is that really the worst possible outcome, multiple people intentionally bonking their heads on it and getting more hurt?
I don’t buy this story. I think it’s a plant.
who the fuck cares
So it’s an EV Delorian.
Cars made of metal do more damage when running down pedestrians than cars made of nerf do. Is the solution to make all cars out of nerf, or to stop running down pedestrians?
No shizsle. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand the inherent problem of this flaw in the car design.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Gonna be real fun to see the crash test rating.
Without crumple zones, all of the kinetic energy goes into the occupants.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
OTOH it weighs almost 7000lbs (~3100kg) so it’s going to plow through most of everything with its sheer mass.
Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 months ago
You’d be surprised how much a concrete pillar holding up an overpass can actually take. They don’t break like in the movies, they are specifically designed to take big truck impacts and not fail. Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes.
ikidd@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Go hit a 10"+ tree in a pickup and see how fast you stop. You can wander over and pick the engine up when it flies out the hood. The tree will loose some bark.
ramble81@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I thought a car had to have that before it went on sale?
Cornpop@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Believe it or not I’m the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance in the USA. There is no specific government body that has a standardized test that they have to pass to be made legal. The manufacture gets to make that decision themselves, then if there is an issue that the government finds later they can be pulled from the road.
Chreutz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I know it’s fun to bash Tesla every now and then for their ridiculous things.
But do you really think, after making 4 vehicles with top of the line safety, that they will just say ‘eh, fuck it’ with the cybertruck?
It’s an aluminum casting base construction, just like the Model Y, so why would there be no crumble zones?
PatFussy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Because they wanted it to be bullet proof.
hperrin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There are crumple zones, they’re just not as big as those in competing trucks. But yeah, the safety comparison is probably negligible, what really makes me think it’s a bad truck is the design of the bed. It’s got slanted walls. That really limits what you can haul and how you can get it into the bed.
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That actually would be on brand for Musk.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Were talking about Elon here. Yes, I do think so. In addition, don’t give too much credit, the other vehicles would always be inherently safer because they’re electric.
DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Here you go:
youtu.be/SQjoDV6vDaI
Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s… computer generated. BeamNG maybe?
Felix_Bardner@pawb.social 11 months ago
Looked convincing at first, but it felt too clean- Then at 7 seconds in, you can watch a white panel clip straight through the door and windshield lol
Gargantu8@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thanks for sharing! How do I know if this is good or bad haha
Kiosade@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Wow looks unsafe as fuck!!
helenslunch@feddit.nl 11 months ago
What makes you think it doesn’t have crumple zones?
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.
It’s 4x as thick as current sheet metal used in other vehicles, and twice as thick as the steel bumpers used in old cars that didn’t have crumple zones.
That combined with the fact that they have stated that all of the strength and rigidity for the truck comes from the exoskeleton, that would preclude being able to crumple.
They have not made safety a priority in anything on this monstrosity. The windows are are all laminated and shatterproof, meaning you can’t break them to escape if there’s a fire or you end up underwater and the body is bulletproof meaning that it can’t be torn open with the jaws of life if you need to be extracted.
It’s a giant metal coffin.
casmael@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yeah have you seen the footage it’s as stiff as the rod up musks butt hole