Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Europe gives Elon Musk 24 hours to respond about Israel-Hamas war misinformation and violence on X::Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, warns Elon Musk about disinformation on X related to the Israel-Hamas conflict.
I am so sick of seeing his face everywhere. I’m blocking everyone.
He’s basically the new Trump, in that for five years you could not escape Trump’s fucking face on every website you visited. Perhaps Musk isn’t quite that level, but he’s not far off. He’s in the news an insane amount, and it’s basically as annoying as Trump, only is not quite as ugly or stupid.
Elon is Desantis. Like him or not, Trump makes great TV. Its like the best thriller ever created. Elon is fine when other people talk about him. But when he’s on TV, he’s boring just like Ron. He’s got no personality.
These people gotta worship someone because they lack any sort of self identity of their own.l and critical thinking skills.
They need a leader to tell them what to do.
I still see Trumps face everywhere, though primarily on left wing media. Oddly enough, I see it there more than I do on right wing media. (Gotta see what both sides are saying, the truth is in the middle somewhere)
I miss Apollo where yoy could block any keyword which prevented me from seeing commwnts or posts that contained specific text…
Boost does that. You can filter out a whole instance if you want.
What app or webui are you using? Most of them have keyword filters now.
Arctic has separate filters for the post body and post title, which is really nice.
Avelon has keyword filtering and also supports instance blocking.
Both have been great!
Mlem allows for filters
i believe the is a chrome/firefox extension where you can block news about certain people. I dont remember how it’s called.
Is he … is Musk growing an evil goatee?
I have to assume this is part of a PR strategy wherein he claims to have been replaced by his evil twin from the mirror universe.
It’s a little late for that.
He’s trying desperately to prove he’s hit puberty.
He has kids, so I can only assume this is to prove he’s a teenager at heart.
The hair restoration treatment is now out of control and he’s slowly turning into the wolfman.
Looks like his pubic hair is likely just migrating for the winter
Tenorman: Alright alright, I’ll trade you my pubes back for the money.
Musk: You will? Oh, cool!
Tenorman: How much did I charge? Oh, yeah, $10.
Tenorman: You got change for a 20?
Musk: Oh, uh…
Musk: I only got six dollars and 12 cents.
Tenorman: Oh, well, that’s okay.
Tenorman: Here, just give me the six dollars and then I’ll give you the 20.
Musk: Okay.
Tenorman: Now, give me the pubes and I’ll give you back two dollars.
Musk: Right.
Tenorman: Now, give me the 12 cents And I’ll give you the rest of your change back.
Musk: Cool.
Tenorman: And then give me the 20 and I’ll give you the pubes.
Musk: Sweet!
Musk: Uh- Ah, Godammit!
I think he’s trying to inspire more tony stark comparisons now that everyone makes fun of him.
Oh, cool, so when does he sacrifice himself for the good of mankind?
Gotta round out the super villain motif…
Frittering away precious scalp strips to cover a artificial speed bump of a chin.
Musk is about to learn why getting rid of the content moderation department wasn’t very cost-saving to the operation of his platform.
Musk is about to learn
Aren’t you an optimist.
Hah, I think you have a VERY valid point. Musk truly, and I mean TRULY DOESNT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS.
I’m sure he’ll learn…the wrong lesson
“Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, said in a letter addressed to Musk on Tuesday that his office has “indications” that groups are spreading misinformation and “violent and terrorist” content on X, and urged the billionaire to respond within a 24-hour period.”
Sounds like it’s just a strongly worded letter.
A bit below that it says that they’re also threatening fines of 6% of annual revenue.
Are they gonna give Twitter more money then? /s
Hadn’t read the actual letter. It would be interesting to know what the specific request they have is.
Ah so that’s why he’s tanking it
You have to have revenue in order to be fined 6% of it.
I sometimes feel like the only person that remembers that DSA went into effect in August.
Doesn’t that only come into effect at the beginning of 2024?
He doesn’t have time for that, after all he’s the busiest man on the planet and earns his billions every day.
Which is why his Diablo 4 Druid is level 100. Lol.
If your going to bash him, don’t do it for him playing computer games.
…there are plenty of proper reasons!
When someone claims they are so work-focused that they sleep in the office and expect others to follow suit, finding out that they have a high level character in a game that’s only a few months old is worth bashing them over.
It’s not that Elon plays games, it’s that he pretends he’s too busy to do so and expects his employees to be too busy to do so.
That’s not the point. The point is that oligarchs always go on about how hard they work, which makes them somehow deserve all the wealth they’ve swindled us out of. But if you work so hard, you won’t have time to sink endless hours into a game.
Bashing him for his choice of game is fair play.
He’s still playing that shitty game?
I enjoy Diablo IV and I think that’s okay. It’s a wonderful dopamine generator and a good podcast companion.
Why do you know what level he has in some game? Why are people so obsessed with Elon in general? Ignore that clown.
He’s one of the wealthiest people in the world
Little note: he doesn’t earn billions every day
oh, so sorry
Go EU, Go!
Failure to comply with the European regulations around illegal content could result in fines worth 6% of a company’s annual revenue.
I guess joke’s on the EU…
Because they aren’t making much money? Considering this isn’t based on profit but revenue, that’s a pretty significant fine
$2bn in 2022 for non-US. www.businessofapps.com/data/twitter-statistics/
Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X, is $1.2bn, then 6% is $72m. This would likely be a daily fine of about $197K per day USD, minus shifty billionaire revenue reporting.
It’s 6% of world-wide turnover, not EU revenue. The neat part about turnover is that you can’t play shenanigans with accounting. It’s very unlikely to be the full 6% though and they will want to keep some headroom for escalation and even more egregious cases.
But yes this is absolutely “drive a company bankrupt” kind of territory and that’s precisely the intention. Either Twitter shapes up, leaves the EU market, or gets fined into non-existence.
I’m having real hard time trying to understand what kind of “misinformation and violence” is spreading on twitter, that isn’t on other social media platforms such as right here. I wonder what even counts as “misinformation” at this point, as you can make quite outrageous but factual claims about both sides (Israeli government and hamas)
This is the most confusing conflict I’ve ever paid any significant attention to, and it feels like the more I learn, the less I understand.
I would argue a major difference between misinformation on some place like Lemmy and misinformation on Twitter, is that Musk as owner of Twitter is amplifying this misinformation. Elon Musk frequently replies to people spreading misinfo and shouts out their accounts.
What if it was some other celebrity with similarly large following doing that on some other platform?
I don’t quite buy that explanation. Basically the same thing is happening elsewhere too but instead of it being done by a single individual it’s done by many. The end result is just the same.
I’ve been on several social median sites and ironically it seems reddit and X both have a lot of information.
Reddit had several western articles about Hamas beheading 40 babies. The upvotes and comments are extremely biased and genocidey.
The beheading 40 babies claim has be debunked but there’s still no talk about it on reddit, they’ve just chewed that shit up and run with it.
X has a lot of not farms and Indians so its very muddy trying to distinguish what type of information you’re getting.
They are both terrible, but the thing is that Isreal has a positive connection to Western governments and the Palestinians don’t. So if Hamas kills civilians it’s jihad and terror and when Israel does it, it gets handwaved or even supported.
Our media is not unbiased, no matter how much they tell you and are trying to uphold the illusion of factual correctness. We simply live on the other side of the narrative and if that is challenged, it’s called “misinformation”. Anyone thinking there is a right and a wrong side here is either a moron or has a personal stake like family or friends in the region.
The conflict in that area will never end without secularism and the chance of that happening is zero.
This comment is a good example of why your “Misinformation” policing is fascist authoritarianism.
Your debunked “misinformation” was just debunked again as the images of the dead babies have hit the internet. But according to you, the original claims should have been censored as misinformation.
I tried to trace the origins of the conflict yesterday, and I got to the Russian revolution with still no concrete answer. I figured out the reason for the Balfour Declaration and the reason why there was a Zionist movement for a Jewish state, but I have yet to figure out what factors caused the events leading to that.
We’re talking stuff like footage for other wars, cgi, even stuff from video games
Any updates on the situation? The 24h period must be done by now.
I have the same question. I hope the reply is published.
I hope they have the PR for when he misses the deadline already written up so they can just hit “Publish” when he fails to respond.
The saudis might give him money to mitigate fines. I’m sure that’s not beyond him to continue with a misinformation campaign if the price is right.
Well, more money for the EU and less for the Saudis wouldn’t be a bad outcome either.
Nevermind fining Twitter. Elon will see it as a badge of honour and Trumpspin.
What the EU needs to do is block access to the website outright across its member states.
Ah yes! Censor the internet! That’s the solution!
Twitter is not the internet, its now a misinformation site that financially rewards that misinformation. The slow death of twitter prompted the birth of threads, bluesky and mastodon to name 3. One goes, three rise. And nobody is being censored - thats the point. What this would be is the consequence of their misuse of free speech.
Europe gives Elon Musk 24 hours to respond
So kinda like… a Final Countdown?
He’ll fuck this up. I look forward to reading the EU’s chastising later today.
Let’s go Lonnie (you stupid piece of shit), Let’s go!
As much as I hate disinformation on the internet and witnessed what it can do to people. I am very cautious when governments place themselves as the arbiters of truth. we should fight for the freedom of speech even when it is contrary to our beliefs. disinformation should be fraught against with facts and transparency.
Good luck with that doesn’t seem to be working.
I agree with you, but I’m curious to know your thoughts: What do you do when the 2-3% of people who are willing to take that fight head-on aren’t nearly enough to combat the endless bots and astroturfers across social media? I don’t count myself amongst those 2-3% by the way, I’m on Lemmy and not Reddit in part to avoid some of that. Engaging is far too much effort and I have my own problems to worry about.
Yes. Exactly. How refreshing to hear.
The government has a process called the courts where they decide on what was the “truth” of the matter. Hell, they’ll even restrict your speech during a trial, jurors included. The trick here is you give power to the people to decide, arguably this is playing out in our school systems as well over books.
Elon is okay with it since it suits him.
I’m glad that someone is fighting misinformation. What scares me, is if the right wing in the US starts trying to do the same thing. Can you imagine them cracking down on Facebook, X, etc for misinformation like the EU is doing? It would only be Biden conspiracies and pro Trump propaganda allowed. Good thing we aren’t giving our government that power.
I like his new ‘defiant teenager’ style 😆
Who gave eurocrats or techbros the right to censor the internet and decide what is “disinformation”?
Ok, it’s been 24 hours, anyone have an update?
Or else what, exactly? Until someone actually holds his feet.to the fire, the idiocy will continue.
I hate this word disinformation so much. We cannot censor any information on the internet even if it’s a total bulshit. I’m on Lemmy cause there is no censorship and everyone should think about that nowadays. Anything you post online can have legal consequences and that’s complete bulshit squared. #freespeach
Look, idgaf about musk or anything he does but why is it on him to fix misinformation on x? Why is it the job of the platform owner? Id really like it if someone explained this to me.
The way I see it, content on these platforms is user generated, misinformed or not, propaganda of one side or the other… If someone decides to put up a plain old text document and let everyone modify it, should the owner of said document really be liable for what others put on it? What if the document has no owner and is hosted in a peer to peer fashion? Who do we give 24 hours to fix it then?
You gimuyd are on some wikd shit im history
24 hours for Elon Musk to replace the truth he’s said with a lie but which Europe would like to hear.
viking@infosec.pub 1 year ago
Time to ban Twitter and call it a day.
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] 1 year ago
I deleted my Twitter at the beginning of this year. Never used it much, just followed a lot of metal bands on it. I don’t regret it for a single second. Everyday since, it’s just been one giant non-stop shit show. It’s sad to see so many still use it, but for my own good conscience, I can’t support that platform in any way. I avoid it like the plague.
viking@infosec.pub 1 year ago
I’ve only used it like 5 times to contact airlines. Their social media team seems better staffed and more helpful than the hotline. Tried using it in the early days, but the 160 char limit was a total turnoff for me. Felt like back in the 90’s with a 160 char limit imposed on text messages, and everybody using cryptic abbreviations. That almost triggered some high school PTSD. And when they changed that I was already too far immersed in other channels to get my updates to really bother trying again.