Tesla Robotaxis Reportedly Crashing at a Rate That's 4x Higher Than Humans
Submitted 15 hours ago by spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world
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roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
itsathursday@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Optical recognition is inferior and this is not surprising.
slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Yeah that’s well known by now. However, safety through additional radar sensors costs money and they can’t have that.
tomalley8342@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Nah, that one’s on Elon just being a stubborn bitch and thinking he knows better than everybody else (as usual). Image
paraphrand@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
just one more AI model, please that’ll do it, just one more, just you wait, have you seen how fast things are improving? Just one more. Common, just one more…
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 13 hours ago
I don’t think it’s necessarily about cost. They were removing sensors both before costs rose and supply became more limited with things like the tariffs.
Too many sensors also causes issues, adding more is not an easy fix. Sensor Fusion is a notoriously difficult part of robotics. It can help with edge cases and verification, but it can also exacerbate issues. Sensors will report different things at some point. Which one gets priority? Is a sensor failing or reporting inaccurate data? How do you determine what is inaccurate if the data is still within normal tolerances?
More on topic though… My question is why is the robotaxi accident rate different from the regular FSD rate? Ostensibly they should be nearly identical.
parzival@lemmy.org 12 hours ago
I’m not too sure it’s about cost, it seems to be about Elon not wanting to admit he was wrong, as he made a big point of lidar being useless
xSikes@feddit.online 2 hours ago
And newsom doesn’t give a shit
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 hours ago
They’ll work perfectly as soon as AI space data center robots go to Mars. I’d say a Robovan will be able to tow a roadster from New York to Hong Kong by… probably July. July or November at the latest.
treesapx@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I really fucking hate how his fans can just listen to him lie like this over and over and it doesn’t affect their opinion of him. I remember falling for it a couple times before I started asking “Is this like the last time you promised dates?”
By that time it was a moot point, however, because that “pedo guy” comment was just around the corner. Now anyone who likes him after that needs to go to therapy to figure out a few things.
I won’t comment on people who support him after the other things.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
ours@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Thanks Obama.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
a crash with a bus while the Tesla vehicle was stopped
Uuh…wouldn’t that be the fault of the bus? I mean, the system is faulty as fuck so there’s really no need to mix in shit like this, it reduces legitimacy of the otherwise very valid criticism.
duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
That depends entirely where the Tesla stopped, and under what conditions.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
Eh, not really though. Generally if your car is stopped, even in the middle of the road, you are not at fault if someone else hits you. You can still get fined for obstruction of traffic, but the incident is entirely the fault of the moving vehicle.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m betting it stopped in the path of it. Either by pulling out in front of it, or sitting on the inside of the truck whilst turning.
73ms@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
Entirely possible, but all incidents are counted as it would probably be difficult to produce reliable stats where you’re leaving out some based on some kind of an assessment of blame.
Because Tesla hides most of the details unlike the competition we can’t really look at a specific one and know.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Use lidar you ketamine saturated motherfucker
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Can’t do that. Then he would have to upgrade all legacy cars. And he is missing the lidar dataset.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
The best time to add lidar would have been years ago, the second best time is right now. I don’t think he would have to update the old cars, it could just be part of the hardware V5 package. He’s obviously comfortable with having customers beta testing production vehicles so he can start creating a lidar set now or he can continue failing to make reliable self-driving cars.
NachBarcelona@piefed.social 7 hours ago
In the first piss poor epigone of Neuromancer, the name “Robotaxi” would’ve been laughed at.
Mulon Esk made the dumbest name happen for the xth time.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
This is a really funny thing to see a few scrolls down from an article about Tesla’s first wheelless vehicle and finally “solving autonomous driving”
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 15 hours ago
Who insures these things?
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 hours ago
Tesla
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Are they even insured like typical insurance?
If Tesla owns it, don’t they just pay out of pocket as needed, they don’t actually have a monthly payment to themselves or anything?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
How often are they just bursting into flames for no reason?
Brgor@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
4x as often as a human I’d expect
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 15 hours ago
I didn’t realise spontaneous human combustion was still so prevalent!
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
EVs are far less likely to catch fire than ICE vehicles—20 times less according to Swedish data—despite high-profile media coverage of EV fire incidents.
db2@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
They’re 4 times as capable ~of~ ~crashing~ as a human driver. How efficient!
NachBarcelona@piefed.social 7 hours ago
Whaaa how do you do subscript (?) text! Aaaaah!
user28282912@piefed.social 13 hours ago
Darwin just getting ever more creative over time.
QuietGenesis@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
😱😱😱😱
HumanDent@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
ilinamorato@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I mean, people are dying. Including the people who didn’t pay for it. So, kind of a bigger deal than that.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Smh they should have paid for the ‘not killed spontaneously’ package. Their fault, really.
motruck@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Are people getto g wttlements who are involved in a crash sounds like a potential payday with obviously risky odds.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 40 minutes ago
Musk = POS Nazi.