Did not see this coming when I built my 40TB NAS
Nearly all of Spotify has been scraped and is available via torrents
Submitted 3 weeks ago by commander@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
commander@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Get to acquiring Seagate external HDDs and shucking them for 3.5" drive bays before the data centers get them
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sadly my wallet is on time out
potpotato@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The 20TB drives I was looking at in July are up 40% :/
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m building my first Linux setup and have a NAS planned out. I’m so stoked. I got a raspberry pi kit from my dad as an Xmas gift yesterday.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I also used a raspberry pi (5). People here will advise against it but for me it’s been working fine so far. I can stream 4K on my local network just fine. Read/write speeds aren’t great but good enough for me. I used a Pi hat with 5x SATA ports and I have 5x 8TB HDDs in a custom 3D printed enclosure and I’m using RAID… (Forget the name, brb)
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
At 100 now and it looks like I need to quadruple
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] 2 weeks ago
40TB LOL. Where we’re going, we’re gonna need more space! Back to the Space, Part IV!
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
My soon to be homeserver will have an astonishing 4TB of space. The CPU can handle up to 15TB, but I am lacking drives that are big enough.
If I ever get the money to build a proper NAS I will 100% start going all in on Storage and start doing stupid shit like mirroring Wikipedia. I will probably not start mirroring the entirety of Spotify (which would be kinda sick NGL.), but I kind of have the problem that I Am kind of a data hoarder that likes to store excessive amounts of stuff I will never need. In the future I will also start seeding all the music I have, but I need a VPN with port forwarding for that beforehand (I’m currently kinda broke, so won’t happen that fast)
blitzen@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
As far as I’ve read, the database is largely low bitrate files, and some AI. The value here is metadata and preservation of “rare” music.
hietsu@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Nope, I would not call 160kbps Vorbis low bitrate, it’s roughy the quality level of 192kbps MP3. Only the ”popularity=0” stuff (so stuff with so little listens that Spotify does not keep record of) were re-encoded to 75kbps Opus, which as a modern codec is much better than it sounds like but of course re-encode is not great for already lossless stuff.
For purists there are those Tidal downloader sites available everywhere for free lossless music, even 24-bit hires FLAC.
blitzen@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Opus is what I’m encoding my working library to. I like ripping to flac (and archiving them as such), but the advantages to smaller file sizes for the working library are worth it for me. So far, I’m really liking the format.
I keep the archive on spinning hard drives, but the opus library on ssd (which makes browsing much quicker, and no unnecessary spinning up the hard drives.)
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It’s not lossless but current ogg vorbis at 160kbps is absolutely transparent for the vast majority of people. That’s actually what I chose to keep my own collection, I mean, outside of the lossless albums that I absolutely want to flawlessly preserve.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
How does it compare to 192 and 320 bps mp3?
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Am I losing my mind? All magnet links are metadata, no?
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
They havent released the music files yet
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh my god did you guys just steal my music?! You each owe me $0.003 !!!
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
I got half a quesadilla and a shiny rock
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You must be a very generous person, that’s worth way more than what dude asked for
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
My very long game of avoiding spotify is finally paying off
sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Is this new? Aren’t most tracks already available in torrents?
borokov@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yep, most of tracks were already available on “various” sources, but this time they directly scraped the whole Spotify database.
It’s really nice from them to backup Spotify database on a distributed system, and for free ! This ensure Spotify business won’t be endanger in case of critical hardware failure.
halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So nice of them to help with Spotify’s off-site backup.
JASN_DE@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
It’s new insofar as this is one big scrape. About 300TB iirc.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
300tb is a lot, but its kind of crazy to think this entire company only needs 300tb storage arrays to function. I wonder how they handle things internally. I would imagine at least 1 backup server ready to go in HA. I wonder if they have multiple regions across the country that also serves up the same setup.
navigator@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Not mine, because I’m not famous enough for people to pirate my music lol. It would be flattering for me to be included in this batch of scraped music.
FatVegan@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
I’d steal your music
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
If your Spotify popularity is not 0, you probably are in the scraped archive.
morto@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It would be awesome if we had an app that allowed to stream directly from such torrents, and had a user-made recommendation system to replace the discovery algorithm :D
bizzle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Stremio + Torrentio does this for TV but I haven’t found an equivalent for music. Hoping to be proven wrong 🤞
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Something as easy as stremio but for music. Connect to listenbrainz instead of trakt. Then only serve from the spotify collection because of their extensive metadata. With multi device sign in and syncing like stremio. Then a Kodi add on for the libreelec people.
Everyday0764@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
i need a subscribe button for this
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I wonder how they are splitting it up in different torrents and how many.
They are splitting it up right? 😁
trolololol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Direct stream may be phase 2
Emptiness@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Moved to Tidal. Reviews from some tech-site said “It’s like Spotify 10 years ago.” as if that’s a bad thing.
Loving the FLAC quality and non-enshittification.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
Tidal lost me immediately when it took 3 months for them to recognize my cancelation of my subscription.
Phegan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tidal didn’t work when I had all my privacy settings enabled. It straight up didn’t work on the browser on Linux while blocking trackers. If I can’t run your app with full blocker settings, then I am not going to run your app.
trolololol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I moved to qobus. It’s not owned by untied states capital.
Waldelfe@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I love Qobus. I heard they also pay the artists more fairly. It’s just unfortunate that some big artists are still missing.
sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
And there’s some great quality CLI applications that let you rip source quality FLACs!
anythingdull@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
I tried Tidal but they have a glitch on their app where downloaded songs get stuck and playlists stop downloading. They’ve had a bug open about it for at least three years last I checked. It may sound niche, but I’m often traveling and use offline music regularly
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Anna’s the GOAT
planish@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sounds more like the pirate queen.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
I wish I could think anything positive about this, but I can't imagine anyone who actually cares about music needs or wants this. Instead it'll almost certainly be used as an illegal and unethical dataset to further train bullshit AI to make slop songs. As easy as it is for people to claim "preservation", I do have to question the motives of stuff like this...
Fuck AI. Support your favorite human artists.
Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, it seems like the perfect avenue to replicate Stremio / Kodi but for music
paper_moon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I guess it’s easier packaged in a torrent rather than individual downloads, but I do question why anyone would need this if all they were doing was training AI, as everything is already available on YouTube for free. You don’t need to hack a company to get the audio. Now if you’re a human trying to actually listen to the songs, obviously the Spotify torrent will sound much better, assuming the hack captured the higher quality audio streams from Spotify.
Grimy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a good thing if you are smart enough to understand that AI isn’t going away. Universal bought udio, the “legal” variant of the dataset will be used to train models, only they will be closed source, censored and come with a ToS that gives all the rights from the generated music to the record companies from the get go.
At least this gives open source a chance.
llama@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Same it seems useless to me. The real value is knowing how songs relate to each other in terms of being played before/after other songs, and that’s only available via internal datasets that they could never scrape anyway.
Telorand@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Unless…?
paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, the people who are racing to download it all want to use it for profit. AI companies, companies that run databases, etc.
Cloudstash@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
[deleted]Telorand@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
Everybody starts somewhere. Few come out the gate being Depeche Mode. That doesn’t mean it’s not worth the struggle to get better.
verdi@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Now do Netflix, Prime, Paramount, HBO, Disney, Hulu and Apple and we’re golden.
hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Already done. It’s called Torrent Streaming and lets you stream-on-demand anything that exists as a torrent without having to torrent anything yourself.
A client that can stream these Spotify torrents with an interface that works like Spotify (low bar, I know) will be awesome, but also including a database to match songs to artists so users can send money directly to the artists they listen to will make it revolutionary.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A stremio for music would be amazing
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
When copyright dies so rich conglomerates can make money by monetizing out toys and collectibles and theme parks from smaller creators content without paying a dime back to them? Copyright is beneficial. Copyright is good. It needs reform, yes, but don’t mistake that with the concept being bad.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
You should NOT actively do something, for money. You should EXPECT it.
Otherwise you’ll eventually try to maximize profits and get rid of everything that made whatever you did good in the first place.SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’d just reduce copyright periods. Right now they are ridiculously long. No one should hold rights from 1930s works.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Wow this is so revolutionary.
Never in the history of the internet has music been available for free.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Not this easily with accurate tags and art it hasn’t.
RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s nothing compared to my old Napster collection
Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Well, at least the datahoarders can preserve some things when it all goes to shit…
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Let’s put it all on a Funkwhale server.
SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Datahoarders are going to go WILD over this
Zarajevo@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I buy music on Bandcamp to support artists and then stream music via my own Plex server
Alexhudosnik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I know, I read about this news, but nowhere did I find this torrent file that they are talking about, do you know where they sent it to what site, and if this is just for the sake of information, do I condemn piracy?🧐
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How many full seeds are there? I mean how many could there be? Who has 300 Tb to throw at this?
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Blog post about the backup
Eryn6844@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
not sure why you want that much music most of it garbage. i would like some of the podcasts that people dont post anywhere else though. all hail the data hoaders.
MattW03@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
99% of the “original” Spotify’s contents are crap or AI bloat. The rest was already on torrent before.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have 3gb of space to share. Are there 150 other people like me that want to do some distributed hosting? What technology can handle this?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Wasn’t all of this shit already available as torrents?
ad_on_is@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Fuck… Now that RAM prices are skyrocketing, we gonna see hoarders buy hundreds of TB of storage, leading to price hikes
Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🎊🎊🎉🎉🎊
souperk@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Has anyone tried to self host this? Of course, hosting 300tb isn’t practical, so any solution would need to download the metadata and songs on demand.
termaxima@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
But are the files high quality, or is it the same low bitrate garbage they send to their users ?
fennesz12@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
I think it’s quite important from the perspective of media preservation. We basically have a way to preserve music from a time where it was mostly Human-Made.
sbbq@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Was there really much content on it that wasn’t already available in a torrent somewhere already?
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
That’s disgusting. Where would you find such torrents?
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
annas-archive.li/torrents/spotify
errer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The album art torrent is a goldmine. Such a pain in the ass sometimes to find high quality album covers.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
The fact that annas archive exists despite how fucked up everything is right now gives me hope. Every time I start to feel cynical about the future I remind myself that there’s people out there working to preserve the art and culture of our modern era with all the most powerful corporations and governments working against them, and they’re succeeding.
Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
None of these are audio torrents.
That’s not released yet.
Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Shit me, 200gb in metadata, 2.2TB in cover art before we even touch a piece of music! Wild
BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People are saying it’s 300TB but this link isn’t 300GB why?
yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
what a beautiful, simple and well designed website
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] 2 weeks ago
I would never bookmark such a site! [clicks bookmark button]
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“address not found”
speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Download and seed seed seed
randomuser38529@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
cue Padme ‘And avoid it?’ — ‘To avoid it, right?!’