The original block post is rather frank and to the point. Wish the engineering leadership I worked with communicated this well.
Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
Submitted 1 day ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/02/zig_quits_github_microsoft_ai_obsession/
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treadful@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
In the end, we opted for a simple strategy, sidestepping GitHub’s aggressive vendor lock-in: leave the existing issues open and unmigrated, but start counting issues at 30000 on Codeberg so that all issue numbers remain unambiguous. Let us please consider the GitHub issues that remain open as metaphorically “copy-on-write”.
Do you know anything about the referenced vendor lock-in?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Basically all the stuff that is build by GitHub and not part of git. Like the pull request discussion boards that is not stored in the git repository
treadful@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
It’s just that all your shit and users are there, like issue tracking in this case.
Deestan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The fucking lunacy of the AI bros he lists as examples…
edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 day ago
GitHub, more like QuitHub, amirite?
azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I wish Microsoft keeps up with its AI obsession and push as much as possible. At some point they’ll realize the reputation damage, but the longer it will take the better. Just stop the negative publicity
Zink@programming.dev 11 hours ago
Alright fine, I can tolerate the little ✨AI ✨ sparkles in my M365 webpages a while longer if it means more kaboom at the end.
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The publicity will have little impact; only the AI bubble popping will make them change course. But the damage is already done - they’ve pivoted their company to AI, forced it into all there products and force their employees to use it. Once the bubble pops that’s going to take time to undo and fix.
AI of course will still be a thing, but at the moment they’re wasting billions on it as everyone wants to be to AI as Google is to search.
Klear@quokk.au 1 day ago
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
For great justice
hayvan@feddit.nl 22 hours ago
What you say!
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Take off every Zig!
wewbull@feddit.uk 21 hours ago
All your codebase belong to us!
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
If you’re into emulation, it’s a legitimately good sidescrolling shmup, and if I remember right, the music was great as well.
It’s just that absymal translation that launched it into meme status.
Jinarched@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
I can hear the song so clearly by just watching this picture.
wuffah@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Move ZIG for great justice!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
Make your time
projectsquared@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Greetings, fellow internet pioneer! Don’t forget to take us up the bomb!
frongt@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
*set up us
Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Codeberg doesn’t need billions of users… Just the right ones.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
…take off every zig
Nomecks@lemmy.ca 18 hours ago
We know what you doing
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Somebody set us up the bomb!
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Make your time.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
…The same Zig that left LLVM, to make their own compiler from scratch?
This is good. But also, this is sort of in character for Zig.
devolution@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Xbox. Lol. Microsoft has the Mierda touch.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Keep joining Codeberg!
termaxima@slrpnk.net 12 hours ago
Go go gadget-o Codeberg !
vogi@piefed.social 21 hours ago
Love Codeberg. Just wish there would also be HackerHill, BytePeak and SoftwareSummit with federation!
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
I love that Codeberg exists, but there’s one thing I kinda dislike.
I’d like to use the same forge for my private projects (hey, a couple of them may make money one day! I gotta eat too) as I do for open source stuff, but Codeberg is explicitly open source only.
It’s a minor thing, really. Which I could get past by using another Forgejo instance, like Codefloe. But these smaller instances, how long will they be around?
moonshadow@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
I see this as a feature not bug, and tbh kinda resent those who hoard information and try to extract wealth from it. Extremely rude to the giants whose shoulders your work is built on. I’m the person who’s going to crack and redistribute your shit as soon as you publish it, nice to meet you :)
biofaust@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
I am a wanna-be coding data analyst who has decided to start directly in Codeberg, more because of anti-US than anti-AI sentiment.
I have 2 questions for everyone more experienced than me and in general more knowledgeable of the market dynamics:
- How far is Forgejo/Codeberg from feature parity with Github?
- I don’t see any public SaaS/tools connecting to Codeberg as they are with Github. Is this by design or is it due to lack of reception? And, in your opinion, what would be a kind of service/connector that would really change things if made available for Codeberg?
killabeezio@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
I highly doubt there will ever be parity. There will also be some differences where there can be improvements made over GitHub. Right now you only hear about individuals moving over or open source software. This is mainly because they don’t need the enterprise features that GitHub has. I am not sure if you self hosted forgejo if you would get those as well. It’s meant to be free. This is the biggest thing that would be missing. For individuals, I don’t think you’ll notice many differences.
For your second question. It doesn’t matter. What matters is git. There are 2 main ways to access this. SSH and http. All you really need is git. There are other tools out there like gitlab. Gitlab is pretty decent too, but the workflow is a bit different. You can even self host with gitlab too. You may not see many direct integrations to gitlab either, but people have been working with it for years now. There is also bitbucket. I think forgejo has a better chance at succeeding though if it continues to do what it’s doing. Just tailor to the free and open source community. Really the only thing people need to do is create an account and set up some ssh keys. Beyond creating an account, there is no difference in how you clone a repo from GitHub and codeberg. Just copy the URL and do git clone.
TL;DR GitHub and codeberg have different missions. It will be a similar experience and features for individuals or open source projects are close to the same on both platforms. You probably won’t notice much of a difference.
NullCypher@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Right now you only hear about individuals moving over or open source software.
Codeberg limits the type of license that can hosted to open source licenses so open source is really the only option at the moment.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
forgejo
How is this generally pronounced? I feel like “for-GAY-hoe” would be the only workable pronunciation.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I’ve been enjoying zig.
It feels like when I go to write C, but without a bunch of code churn/copy paste on getting just the right memory management interface.
It’s not perfect, and the API churn makes it really annoying to find decent documentation. But it’s fun.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
You might like Odin.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
I think the next language I’ll learn will be rust, but Odin has been recommended to me a couple times now.
I do want to try that one out
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I feel that
vogi@piefed.social 21 hours ago
Im eyeing Zig for a long time also as the core developers behind it seem to be really cool and drama free. Which, i know, is no argument for an programming language but cool non the less. Just hope the language itself is also cool to work with.
demizerone@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ugggh I’ve been wanting to migrate for months. RIP GitHub.
axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Don’t see why this even needs to be news.
Zig is just mid anyway as a programming language, partly because its just a new masturbatory Lang for C people and partly because of Andrew’s poor, shepherding of the project.
I don’t think Andrew is notable enough to bother having a full article about the things he does.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 day ago
You sound like you know what you’re talking about. I would love to try the programming language you created. Can you share it?
axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 hours ago
Feel free to try out Rust then.
Not everyone needs to invent a language when one can contribute to an existing one.
theherk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Careful. You might burn yourself on that take.
azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
I wish Microsoft keeps up with its AI obsession and push as much as possible. At some point they’ll realize the reputation damage, but the longer it will take the better. Just stop the negative publicity
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Microsoft has gone all-in on AI to the detriment of basically every other aspect of their business. They are in deep deep shit when the bubble finally pops.
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 1 day ago
And I am so ready for the bubble to burst.
15% of the total United States GDP is a single company. I struggle to comprehend the scale of that, but one thing is for certain; it’s going to bite us in the ass eventually.
kinsnik@lemmy.world 1 day ago
no, it is not. you struggle to comprehend it because it is not true. it is comparing different things. one is a valuation, the other is the value of goods and services over a year. the comparision would be with yearly revenue of a company
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Stock valuation of a company is not calculated int the GDP. Only domestic revenue is. There is no company that makes trillions in revenue.
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
15% of American GDP is approximately $4.57 trillion.
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
It’s not one company, but the top 5 companies make up 40% of South Korea’s economy, with the top 30 76.9% of their GDP. It’s scary to imagine the power they wield.
PrinceOfSloth@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
dont worry govt bailouts with public money with will come in. Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.
rhubarb@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not socialism, it’s welfare.
jali67@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Completely gave up on the console wars thing too for AI. Such ridiculous leadership by Sadya
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Azure might keep them afloat but everything else will likely crumble and they’ll have to downsize to mostly just being a cloud provider.
Dojan@pawb.social 23 hours ago
Gods I wish for this.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 23 hours ago
Don’t worry, they have like 250 ERPs too. And they’re way more expensive than, say, Odoo, though I guess not as expensive as SAP.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
Sorta like AWS and Amazon (but that Microsoft may crumble?)
Rooty@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fingers crossed 🤞
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Microsoft’s business model has always been getting businesses who are even stupider than them to give them tons of money. Nothing is ever going to change that calculus.
clot27@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
like any other tech giant