Oh please tell me this is true!
Octopodes only live a couple years, and thank god. They would be the menace seen in sailors’ imaginations if they just kept growing and learning.
Submitted 4 months ago by LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to science_memes@mander.xyz
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mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Bysmuth@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Did no one notice the giant puddle of water between the tanks?
Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Jesus fuck that’s a big octopus!
Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 months ago
oh! there’s your keys. how’d you get them all wedged up in there, George?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 months ago
This is true. Many aquariums with octopuses have to do something similar.
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
I, for one, welcome our eight appendage overlords
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 4 months ago
They’re smart as individuals, but they don’t have generational knowledge so we’re safe. If they figure out how to reproduce without dying right away, we’re in trouble.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Last time I went to the aquarium there was a specialist on reef ecology talking about all the different species of animals on display and a woman in the group behind me loudly exclaimed “Wait, fish are animals?” so I’m going out on a limb and stating that I believe there’s a considerable amount of overlap between the smartest of their species and the dumbest of ours when it comes to intelligence.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I went to school with a girl who swore the Bible was written in English, not translated… 🙄
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Dumb humans survive and are taken care of, dumb octopi dont survive. Most animals dont have the luxury of keeping every mutation and variation viable for survival.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Makes me think of Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky. 😀
fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
We’re going on an adventure
jabjoe@feddit.uk 4 months ago
I’ll never hear, or read, that phase the same again!
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
I love that series so damn much
badelf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Octopus for President!! (more brains)
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
They literally couldn’t be worse than what we’ve got
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 4 months ago
You don’t know for certain. You might end up electing the one octopus who’s even more fascist than what we have now.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If it was possible to start fire under water octopi would have tribal civilizations already.
thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Did you know that the correct pluralization is octopuses or octopoda, not octopi? This is because the -pus ending in octopus to es from the Greek word for foot, not prom latin.
Iunnrais@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The correct GREEK plural, which would be used because the root of octopus is Greek, could be octopodes. However, in ENGLISH, people have started intuiting that words ending in “~us” pluralize to ~i, akin to cacti. So this isn’t about being a Latin rule, it’s actually an emergent English rule.
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Octopussen.
Bysmuth@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
After a little research it seems that “octopi” and “octopuses” have been so widely used and for so long, that dictionaries include all of them as correct. An article from merriam webster even pragmatically suggests referring to them as “octopodes” is less likely to be understood so stick with “octopi” or “octopuses”. Also, it seems “octopodes” is the more widely accepted “correct” plural and “octopoda” refers to the genus.
But it’s an interesting topic, i wish to subscribe to octopus etymology facts(or any interesting reads)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 months ago
the correct pluralization is octopedophiles
ADTJ@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Did you know that octopi has long been included in many dictionaries also?
Language is only half etymology and half vibes
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The simpler explanation seems to be that the guard was eating the fish, and blamed the octopus when people noticed.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 4 months ago
www.youtube.com/shorts/c98qnyLLTPg
Apologies for the ear bleeding voice over. But it is a cool video showing an octopus opening a jar.
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Well that makes more sense. Damn guard!
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 4 months ago
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 4 months ago
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
T. Ocellus is too cute
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
There are many documented Octopus escape/returns. But some of these details could be new/exaggerated.
Saryn@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ah, so an octopus is overqualified for the position of US President. Good to know.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 months ago
My turd from this morning is overqualified. You set the lowest bar known to men.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The only actual requirement is to be 35, which…
ew.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Few octopi live to the age of 35.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
An octopus can squeeze through a hole about the size of its eyeball and transform its body shape almost without limits.
crazy!
Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
In the size of his eyeball isn’t correct at all, the limit is the size of his beak, the only solid part of an Octopus, but I think that he don’t like to squetch his eyeball if it isn’t needed.
Hupf@feddit.org 4 months ago
vonxylofon@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Welcome, fellow octopodes enthusiast.
Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 4 months ago
Octopodeez nuts
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
octopi = 25.1327412287183
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Approximately.
BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
If i was a .ulti Billionaire i would dedicate my vast wealth to building an Institute that breeds only the most intelligent octopi with each other.
They don’t live so long, so generations go by fast. I bet we could speedrun evolution of we just put our money where our tentacles are.
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Their main issue is being antisocial jerks, they don’t co-operate so they can’t share knowledge and the females die careing for the eggs (which again they might not if they worked together) so they can’t pass anything onto their young either. The jerk part is they also eat eachother sometimes.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
we could speedrun evolution if we just put our money where our tentacles are
Found the cephalopod.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
If you want to read a book about super intelligent cephalopods Children of Ruin the second book of the Children of Time book is interesting.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Intelligence is a cost in evolution, so it doesn’t keep until neccessary.
I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 4 months ago
This would be directed evolution, not natural selection, so we decide what to keep.
BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
So we just make it really dangerous to be dumb.
Agent641@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I know that you mean well, but that is an extremely ‘Evil Billionaire’ thing to do
Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Perhaps, but one must consider BogeyTheSwear’s Cephalopod:
- It is inevitable that super-intelligent octopuses will evolve eventually.
- When they do evolve, they will inevitable consider humans to be delicious snacks.
- As intelligent beings, they will of course look kindly upon their creators - mythical or billionairical.
- Therefore, the only safe and rational course of action is to invest all of one’s energies into bringing forth these humanity-munchers with all due haste, so as to preserve oneself as a creator in their perfect eyes. Either working against their awakening or having nothing to do with it at all is ultimately condemning your bloodline for all eternity to be a nice little midnight snack.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 months ago
Makes me sad tbh.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Octopus didn’t memorize shit. They saw fish and went to get them. Security guard don’t give a fuck about the fish tanks, they were at the gate all night.
Agent641@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Can confirm, have been a guard.
‘Rounds’ were check boxes on a piece of paper. TF do I care whether doors are secure, it’s not my department store.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Can rebut; was also a guard, briefly, first with rounds at a remote pulp mill, and then pit-lamping hobos at a construction site. Raccoons and bears and cougars – oh my!
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Something smart enough to recgonize the people, what they mean, learn their schedule, and understand how to decieve them, is something that should not be kept in captivity for our amusement.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And they do all that with a CRIMINALLY short lifespan. 😟
octonation.com/octopus-lifespan/
“For example, the Common Octopus, Mimic Octopus, and Blue-Ringed Octopus live for around 12 – 18 months whereas the Giant Pacific Octopus can have a lifespan of 3-5 years!”
ameancow@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And especially should not be farmed or eaten alive for clicks on youtube. We did good as a society reducing the barbaric practice of eating shark-fin soup and other exotic animal products, and made great strides in ending torturing sea mammals in amusement parks. We have to add octopus to this list of things we now know better about.
Octopus feelings and are higher animals with unique personalities and ways of experiencing the world. They are curious, they are intelligent, they dream and seem to show emotions in a variety of ways.
And our last common ancestor didn’t even have a backbone. This fact alone should amaze us and give us hope for the greater universe - that we can share so much with something so very distant from us gives hope that if we ever do contact aliens, we might share more than we think.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
The octopus went back to it’s tank after getting a snack. That’s at least some indication the octopus likes living there.
You are assuming the octopus prefers living out in the wild where it could be eaten alive. Who are you to assume what an animal wants?
Are you currently living in some kind rectangular structure where you have easy access to regular meals? Why are you living in this way and assuming an octopus wouldn’t also prefer this? There’s nothing preventing you from leaving the rectangular structure you’re currently living in and going out into the wilds and fending for yourself to survive. Why don’t you do the thing you’re assuming the octopus wants to do?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Who are you to assume what an animal wants?
I am quite literally not doing that. I am saying “we don’t know so we shouldn’t imprison it for our amusement” which does not strike me as a very extreme statement.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Or it was too much of a gamble raw-dogging it in the outside.
All it did was take the ‘bait’ it was aware of and sneak back undetected. For all we know it might have been exploring, but in a hostile environment you wouldn’t venture far…
thejoker954@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I mean the government stops you - at least in the USA. If they find you, no matter how ‘responsible’ you are being they will charge you/kick you off the land unless you “own” the land.
FatVegan@leminal.space 4 months ago
But “dumb” animals are fine? We even torture them because we think they taste cool.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Where did I say that?
snooggums@piefed.world 4 months ago
Every animal can react to their environment, including avoiding predators. Not all of them do it perfectly, but it is a basic survival skill for mobile life forms.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
It could also hide from predators in an aquarium where it will be brought food every day and get medicine from a veterinarian if it gets sick. An Aquarium is the safest place for the octopus to live, so why wouldn’t it’s survival instinct tell it to live there to hide from predators?
We should set up an experiment with an aquarium that allows the octopus access to the ocean. Do you really think the Octopus would run away from the aquarium where it’s safe from predators and gets fed every day?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
The stories I here about Octopi make them sound more like an intelligent creature we don’t understand rather than “lots of creatures escape their cages to go hunting and then return before anyone notices. This is natural behavior for an animal.”
Yes, the mind of an octopus is unknowable, and it could be just acting on instinct. It could also have some measure of sentience, and there is no way to really know. As such maybe we should err on the side of caution and not keep them in little pens for us to gawk at.
Agent641@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Quite right, they should be given badges and guns.
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This octopus, let’s give him boots, send him to North Korea
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
A lot of animals are capable of learning. More importantly they’re capable of feeling. They should not be exploited in the same way that octopi should not be exploited.
Fleur_@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Do they really have security guards patrolling the aquarium like it’s a prison?
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
They probably have several checkpoints to scan every hour or half hour, I’ve seen places with RFID checkpoints that security has to tap on a regular basis. The idea is that security has to not spend the whole night at the desk.
Now they are likely looking for people breaking in, not a small octopus breaking out, so it might not get noticed.
grue@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m disappointed that this didn’t appear in my feed adjacent to the “teaching an octopus to play piano” video for a nice screenshot.
TheBat@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Dude was probably a stealth gamer in previous life.
chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I would believe it, those fuckers are smart and if they were social creatures I think they would be in competition with humans for the dominant species . This is an opinion of a person not super well versed on octopi so take this with a good size grain of salt.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Multiple similar stories:
youtube.com/shorts/iork5qOyCNs
mishpacha.com/octopus-escapades/
My favorite is one who would squirt water at lights to turn them off.
Etlaris@lemdro.id 4 months ago
As a certified octopus I can confirm that this fact is true. 🙃