Submitted 7 hours ago by FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
I think the issue is people getting hung up on the gender identity, not the name. I have known lots of people who go by preferred names, whether chosen themselves or given to them by friends as nicknames. Hell, there are a few people I knew for years only by their preferred name/nickname without realizing it wasn’t their given name.
And stage names make a lot of sense from a practical standpoint. Being famous by your given name can make it hard to separate professional life from personal life.
Don't know if it's the case in her situation, but there's also the thing with stage names where Guild rules require names to be unique. Like Michael J. Fox's middle name is actually Andrew. There was already a Michael Fox on the books so couldn't use that, Andrew or Andy Fox didn't feel right, and Michael A. Fox felt presumptuous (Michael, a fox. Fox having recently come into play as a synonym for attractive) or Canadian (Michael Eh? Fox)
This is why in The Simpson you will see David S. Cohen and in Futurama he is David X. Cohen. I think in a Futurama commentary he told about confusion in a guild or royalty payments that made him change how he was credited.
100% agree. If whoopi goldberg had chose their name for gender purposes, i could see them getting hate and being told it’s a stupid reason etc.
I feel silly now for not realizing that was a stage name.
I straight up thought her actual name was “Whoopi”.
The only people that have a problem with people changing gender is religious people that think that a fictional god assigned them a gender at birth, because their god knows and controls everything, so can never, ever, ever, ever be wrong about anything. Ever. Like a person’s gender. So they hate everyone that questions their fictional hate book. Because it takes them a lot of work to live in that weird, fictional religious reality they want to so badly.
JD Vance isn’t a real name, and that’s cool. Apparently.
Ted Cruz is, afaik, not using a pseudonym, but he is a literal Oogie Boogie (see; a writhing mass of bugs wrapped in a pseudo-skin) and nobody seems to have a problem with that either
Shake my head, or so much hate?
I recently learned a new definition for SMH and now I don’t know if I’m reading it correctly
Not to defend Ted Cruz, but I have a friend named Ted, short for Edward. It’s not unheard of.
JD Vance sounds like one of those kids that jumps out of tall grass to challenge you to a Pokémon battle.
If you know anyone who is anti trans but goes by a nickname, start calling them by their given name. Doug, you’re Douglas. Alex, you’re Alexander or Alexis or whatever. Bill: William. Ted: Rafael (might only apply to one Senator).
…and if they go by their full name, Robert, add some extra on,Roberts, or take some off, Ro. Mispronounce their name badly, Lobert. Say their name in another language that they don’t like, Roberto.
It’s not cool to fuck with people’s names. You should be called what you want to be called. Unless they won’t stop doing it to other people in bad taste. Then fuck them, at least until they finally get it.
Not really.
The people who have an issue with that, don’t have an issue with Rafael Cruz making up a white name.
They just don’t like people transitioning.
You’re implying transphobia is a common view.
The people who have an issue with that, don’t have an issue with Rafael Cruz making up a white name.
Nobody is mad at Ted for changing his name. Folks are mad at him for pulling the rope up now that his family is here “legally”, then trying to white wash his identity so you don’t question him on it.
You’re implying transphobia is a common view.
It absolutely is. And it used to be a lot worse. Took a lot of people coming out at risk of their lives and livelihoods before we reached even this level of support for transgender civil rights.
You’re implying transphobia is a common view.
It’s not?
Of course not…
latimes.com/…/lgbtq-trans-people-american-support…
I think you might be confusing our political system for a democratic one…
A minority of the populace voted for what’s happening these days. The majority of people just don’t give a shit, they’re fine with people living how they want.
It’s an important distinction, because the bigots always want the targeted minority to view all of the majority as an enemy.
If battle lines are just “bigots” vs “non bigots” then the bigots lose every fucking time. That’s why they always try to make it “majority” vs “minority”, dont let them do that. And definitely don’t help them do that with posts like OPs and comments like yours
Don’t get outsmarted by stupid fucking bigots. A lot depends on it now.
I have an issue with Raphael Cruz making up a white name.
Not a gender-identity thing, but I met my best friend when I was 12. We didnt have any classes together so I never heard his name called out in the register.
Wasn’t until we were having a drink at 18 that I realised I didnt actually know his real name.
This one is a hard one, as a cis-gender male, I don’t go by my real name. If someone calls me by my birth name I wouldn’t even know they were referring to me.
I think its more to do with gender rather than names, that and the will to be cruel, of course.
Yeah, I go by my middle name and nobody thinks it’s weird.
The only people that call me by my middle name are my… estranged family. So its sort of an insult in a way. Weird how that works out.
I’ve never encountered or noticed this problem that you mention.
I can’t even see an issue with choosing a name that suits their gender, whatever that may be…
Is this really such a big deal irl?
Is this really such a big deal irl?
It is to the fascists.
I recently learned that Charlie Sheen’s birth name is Carlos Irwin Estévez.
Yep, he adopted the stage name of his father, Martin Sheen (Ramón Gerard Antonio Estévez).
LOL! Emilioooooooo!
Stage names are common for marketing something catchy. Book author aliases too.
JK Rowling used her initials because the publisher thought the books would sell better under a less feminine name. She now uses an even more masculine pen name for her detective novels. There’s nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but it’s kind of hypocritical given her outspoken anti-trans viewpoints.
This one doent understand stage names, it is to protect their identity. It isnt an expression of their gender.
Think before you speak.
But that’s the issue - people who are transphobic often say that using someone’s chosen name is “strange” and “confusing” because they don’t want to admit that their real issue with it is that it’s being used for gender expression. If their actual issue was with chosen names as a whole, stage names would irritate them just as much.
Transphobes claim it’s too confusing to call someone by a new name but have no problem with people changing their name when they get married or just because they want to
Ok but why should the justification behind a name change matter? Addressing someone in the by the name which they choose is just a matter of common courtesy.
How does it protect their identity when I can Google and find Whoopi Goldberg’s real name?
Yeah, and in the 70-90’s this didnt exist and wasnt easy to find.
There are only 2 genders
You don’t even get sex once probably
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