I’m only on reddit for a few subs and the pointless awards. I’m hovering close to 500 day in a row award lol
Mods react as Reddit kicks some of them out again: “This will break the site”
Submitted 3 hours ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 11 minutes ago
ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 3 hours ago
Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
RiQuY@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
What’s the second logo?
Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
tabular@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Given Reddit’s past unreasonableness, I wouldn’t be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 hours ago
Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
Skavau@piefed.social 2 hours ago
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What's interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn't going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can't just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 minutes ago
The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.
danc4498@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.
scintilla@crust.piefed.social 2 hours ago
Its probably related to the whole paying users thing.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn’t include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
Euphoma@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 hours ago
The problem with powermod isn’t that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don’t get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn’t want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn’t want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit’s shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
Auth@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 hour ago
Yes, but they are also doing this to deleverage their mods and consolidate censorship power with coporate
Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 1 hour ago
Yeah. I mean, I remembered seeing someone named awkwardturtle on there and they moderated like some 30+ subreddits? That's ridiculous.
Users like that should not have that much power.
Ulrich@feddit.org 22 minutes ago
Reddit users, as have Xitter, Facebook, Instagram, Threads, etc., have all demonstrated that you can do whatever the fuck you want to them and they’ll just keep coming back for more, no matter what.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 36 minutes ago
Site is already broken
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
lol can confirm
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 1 hour ago
There’s still way too many niche communities on Reddit that just haven’t taken off on Lemmy e.g. alternative a. Non-team sports.
There’s a ViolentMonkey script that can automatically delete all of your Reddit comments. I just run that every few days.
It’s not ideal, but it’s the best that I can do if I value access to those communities, which I do.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities. Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the “reddit is fun” app stopped working. The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won’t be taken hostage anymore.
I never looked back and I’m glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn’t Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Lenny doesn’t really work like that. It’s not just one site.
dil@piefed.zip 1 hour ago
I feel like I went through withdrawals, took like a month to get over it, now I rarely use reddit, not missing anything, just thought I was, I guess I do miss reddit from like 2015, but it was getting worse every year, one of my last posts months before my permaban was asking for alternatives. (It’s how I found lemmmy lol)
Reddit is also at a point where everything has been asked and is asked again weekly, i don’t really need to post/comment anything myself and my votes mean nothing because of the volume. Most of my comments would get lost in a void.
krunklom@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
It’s so easy
renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 3 hours ago
Imagine still using Reddit in 2025.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Must I?
yesman@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It’s interesting to see the site treat it’s unpaid workers more and more like low level employees. I guess capitalists just can’t help themselves.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven’t figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they’re doing it wrong.
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor… figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.
Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. :)
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I’ve been off Reddit totally since 2023, so part of my understanding may be out of date, but before that I was on for many years and watched how powermods became powermods.
Thus this situation is very unusual. Reddit never did anything about the powermod situation before, but now, suddenly, it’s a big deal. For years (over a decade, at least) users have been screaming about the worst abuses on the site being from powermods, and time after time Reddit bent over backwards to not only avoid doing anything about it, but seemed to grasp every opportunity to enhance the problem any way they could, shutting down complaints rather than the power trippin’ bastards that were regularly creating the problems.
Note that powermods very frequently mod the largest subs, which is how they became powermods to start with: modding a sub that got big and then being invited to help mod new subs that then also grew in popularity.
For myself, I don’t think anyone would give two shits if “powermods” only had an aggregate total of 500 users each, but very frequently they have millions, even tens of millions. Looking at the largest subs on the site and the powermods on those subs, and how many of those powemods are crossovers on equally dominant subs, you see the same core group of powermods across all the top sites, give or take a few individually here and there.
Strangely, this is the group Reddit is now disbanding.
Another thing to consider is how many powermods went on to become admins over the years. At least a handful: I don’t know the exact number anymore but it’s non-zero. Powermods who are admins are especially useful to Reddit, because they ensure that the c-suite has direct control over some of the largest subs without ever appearing to do so.
All this is to say that the powermod situation has been mutually beneficial to Reddit admin for ages, which is why they never changed it or even really acknowledged it.
But now, for the first time since 2005, Reddit powermods are suddenly a problem. So what’s changed? Cui bono?
My guess is that Reddit admin is about to a) yank the entire site to the hard right by removing pretty much all effective human moderation and thus preventing powermods from being able to stand in their way across the largest subs (some of which we’ve already seen and the article addresses), and/or b) introduce some other vile change or policy that is certain to piss off EVERYONE, including every non-bot mod on the site, to the point that admin expects a general revolt even among the powermods and need to dilute the individual power of mods in advance.
One very hypothetical change that could do the trick is Reddit forcing mods, including powermods, to quietly engage in collecting evidence of and reporting users and content that admin would like to sell to the current US admin, for example: intel which Reddit is well situated to provide and for which the current administration has already been calling in the wake of a certain recent death. What if Reddit decides to go all in with the present political trajectory, looking for political power as well as the payout they’re usually in it for, and in so doing force mods to comply or lose their subs? It’s not like Reddit hasn’t already done it for less.
Again, these are just my own musings. But whatever the reason, Reddit admin calling it quits with the powermods suggests something much larger than just another light rehabbing of Reddit power structures.
TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 hour ago
When i read the section on how they'll no longer be responding to complaints i had the same exact thought you did. Triming the fat to make the change easier on themselves in the future.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Literally another attempt to appear legit by putting in place an easily circumventable rule.
So first they don’t even check if mods are using alt accounts to moderate other subs but even if they do force it, it’s so easy to click a button on your VPN and you are free to be anyone you want according to “Reddit Corps Super Advanced Security System.”
Auth@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Reddit can ban users across vpn with their automated system. Its even easier if they have tasked someone to look into doing it. I doubt people are taking enough steps to prevent the browser fingerprinting that gives them a unique signature.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 27 minutes ago
Well they haven’t figured out how to ban on my VPN 😂
TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 hour ago
Further, subreddits will stop displaying subscriber counts and instead show their “unique number of unique visitors over the last seven days, based on a rolling 28-day average,” Reddit’s rep said. Notably, old.reddit.com will not get these new stats but will still lose subscriber counts.
That's hilarious
Sucks to suckTrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
MRW someone posts about Reddit still being a shit community tolerating abuse on a downward arc from Advance Publications, to Mods (fuck Spez), to users.
“Hey guys, I heard about a poppin’ new club! The cover is only $10, but bouncers get to backhand anyone anytime they feel like it, and kick you out anytime that you advocate support for anything even slightly left of center.” /s ᕕ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ
mereo@piefed.ca 1 hour ago
Piefed/Lemmy/Fediverse: freedom from capitalist tyranny. True organic, human communities.
Reddit is cyberpunk. It's a world governed by a corporation that acts as its government and only cares about its shareholders, not its citizens.mintiefresh@piefed.ca 1 hour ago
Thank goodness for the fediverse.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Break it hahaha! Fuck that place!
Kurious84@eviltoast.org 2 hours ago
Reddit is basically state controlled.
pentastarm@piefed.ca 3 hours ago
darkkite@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Seems okay, Reddit should eliminate the powermods
Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Good?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 9 minutes ago
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.