Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd
Submitted 6 hours ago by cm0002@piefed.world to [deleted]
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AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 51 minutes ago
I’d like to ask a general question that I’m not entirely sure I can give enough context for.
When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?
Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.
When did we start caring about high schooler’s opinions on a national level?
iii@mander.xyz 15 minutes ago
I think since forever, there’s for example quite a few teenagers amongst the US Founding Fathers age when signing declaration of independence:
Alexander Hamilton 21 James Monroe 18 Nathan Hale 21 John Marshall 20 Aaron Burr 20 Charles Pinckney 18
EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
stardustsystem@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
No really, if he was a nicer guy this probably wouldn’t have happened.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
I’m not convinced it did happen. His last words were literally making light of gun violence. If I read this in a book, I’d say it was too on-the-nose
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
We have no clue how long the shooter was zeroed in. It’s entirely possible they chose the funniest moments to pull the trigger.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
This timeline’s scriptwriter has been phoning it in for years.
errer@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Seemed like it was more in the neck to me
criss_cross@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
His last words
He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied “Too many” He was corrected, the number is 5. He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700) He asked back: “Counting or not counting gang violence?” and got shot
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 44 minutes ago
Seriously? We’re living in a movie.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
His last word was “violence”.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 4 hours ago
A sniper with an innate sense of comedic timing?
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
If violence isn’t working, you’re not using enough violence.
shot; dies
Narrator:
the violence worked.
ceenote@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I always said “You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out.”
And it was literally the last thing he ever did.
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
He died doing what he loved
jimmux@programming.dev 4 hours ago
I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn’t count for some reason?
I guess we’ll never know.
bigfondue@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It’s a common talking point among the right that there aren’t really that many mass shootings in America if you exclude gang violence. Y’know, which is done by and only effects those people
Deme@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
Pointing out that gangs do a lot of violence is an attempt to shift blame onto the demographic groups which are overrepresented in gangs due to socioeconomic reasons (systemic racism).
abir_v@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Given who he was, probably the latter as a to-him socially acceptable racist dog whistle.
ceenote@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Using one minority as a scapegoat for gun violence wasn’t working, so he was switching to a different minority.
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
As others mentioned, “gang violence” is generally a euphemism for non white, especially poor, people. I used to listen to Knowledge Fight(stopped after election not because of the boys, but didn’t want to hear Jones gloat) and during several shootings that involved black victims Jones dismissed it as gang violence.
One case I recall was a shooting in a school in GA that he was spinning some other way, until he found out the school was primarily black and the victim (who survived iirc) was black. He then just stated the kid was in a gang with no proof and dismissed the story.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It’s a deflection technique. The intention was to not answer or address the question at all, but to shift to another topic he could more easily use to manipulate his audience. If you’ve ever watched him “debate” he was a master of deflection.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
“Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂
Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I mean ideally it would’ve been at his time of birth
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
Does anyone have video of this? (This conversation, not the shooty part) All the news media are quoting this while referring to a video but not showing it.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I watched the close up video and didn’t find it too traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine
AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 3 hours ago
They’re /very/ intertwined. I don’t recommend looking for it unless you want trauma
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Almost like the one asking the questions was in on it. I hope they never find them.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 56 minutes ago
Golden Earring - Twilight Zone for the lyrics
“Where am I to go now that I’ve gone too far? Soon, you will come to know when the bullet hits the bone”
Utah Saints - Something Good, for the hilarious, to me, coincidence between the song title, the band name and the location of the event
*NSYNC - Bye Bye Bye, need I say more
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I feel bad for this guys family but becoming your own meme for getting assassinated is crazy. This whole thing has been insane.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 18 minutes ago
I dont feel bad for his family.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 minutes ago
I feel bad for his kids. They didn’t choose to have a piece of shit for a father.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 3 hours ago
I hate how some are trying to spin this as “he was killed just for having different opinions” like no, he didn’t just have “different opinions” that’s grossly oversimplifying things, he advocated for the genocide in Gaza, said kids being shot in school is “worth it” because “god given rights” (which version of the Bible had assault rifles in it?) ridiculed disabled people in his circles, and said if his 9 year old daughter got raped he wouldn’t allow her to have an abortion
All while in a position of authority and power with influence over a significant portion of people. How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
Knightfox@lemmy.world 3 minutes ago
How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that’s why. I’m not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that’s what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don’t care except when it’s their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
For a white ethnostate, obviously.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I hate how some are trying to spin this as “he was killed just for having different opinions”
…like who?
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
I heard something like that from 2 different ‘news’ sources. One was Fox News and the other was PBS news. The PBS one was a lot less direct, but some rando who knew nothing about him could still take that message away. Zero mention of what he advocated for beyond challenging opinions on college campuses and mentioning he was a right wing influencer. They were playing up the think of the CEO’s family card just like they did with the UHC CEO. Oh and don’t forget the 247 (/s) random politicians who condemn political violence.
Elbow1240@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
Yeah but you gain one smug counter or one sanctimony counter.
HuskerNation@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
X smug counters make x number of your opponents creatures attack, your blockers take no damage.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
MisterOwl@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The world is just a little better today.
Overall it still sucks, but it’s nice to know good things still happen once in a while.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I’m savoring it, as things are bound to get worse. The right produces too many directed nutters.
Vupware@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
This will directly lead to things getting worse. The right will be mobilized by the martyr, is my fear.
MisterOwl@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yeah we merged onto the highway to hell in November… Things were always going to get worse. It’s nice to have the occasional shining moment though.
BlueZen@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
so does this mean that any maggot who says they feel for his family or friends or colleagues, are really just liberal cucks in disguise?
PenguinMage@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Sure enough. Probably on soros payroll too.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
GOP heard they’d be getting tots and are trying to hide their disappointment that you meant the potato product.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
these are actually useful though
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
He was permanently deported to the afterlife.
Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 59 minutes ago
Even better & since the afterlife is made-up bullshit, he was deleted from existence! And the world is a better place without him.
crank0271@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Plenty of people have been deported much worse places based on his brand of rhetoric.
Maeve@kbin.earth 5 hours ago
Ma'at hasn't spoken yet.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
If so then he is sucking hitlers dicks as we speak.
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 5 hours ago
Maybe it wasn't murder. Maybe it was just an accident. There were probably lots of guns on campus, after all open carry is legal on campus' in UT, as I understand. Let's not prejudge the guy, he deserved a fair trial.
Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 4 hours ago
ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Thoughts and prayers, lmao
philosloppy@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
the problem is that he was wrong; Empathy is a good thing. You are embodying his shitty ideology by not having empathy. That doesn’t mean you gotta suddenly like the guy or not call out his shitty ideology, but don’t let yourself get dragged down to his level in the septic tank.
I’ll gladly die on this hill, get at me nerds
JaymesRS@piefed.world 1 hour ago
Some people say empathy, tolerance, & inclusion are strictly moral values. However this misses that they are also a social contract lest we end up in the paradox of tolerance.
Kirk had none for those outside his in-group. Those outside his in-group owe him none in return.
pahlimur@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I choose not to have empathy for those who wouldn’t have empathy for me in the same situation. He openly mocked people who die to gun violence, so no sympathy from me. I lean towards enjoying that he is gone. The line for me is killing is bad, but I’m glad he’s dead.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
All those people have loved ones, who are surprised that this worked for once
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 hours ago
I empathize with him. Live by the sword, die by the sword… In his situation, I’d accept my fate
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I’ll gladly die on this hill
Come on now, someone already died
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
This is genuinely the first time in a long time that the news has brought me genuine joy. I don’t give a fuck, but I am angry at him and people like him for being so shitty that it makes me feel joy at their deaths. This is on you bitch.
iii@mander.xyz 11 minutes ago
Have you tried therapy? Enjoying murder is horrific
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
In the end, he did get one vaccine shot.
The anti-life one.
More people like him should get their shots. Hey, it’s a matter of public health!
Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
“I’ma give you a gangster pill, that’s a little piece of lead taken to the head”
IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 6 hours ago
I mean, I wouldn’t say “don’t celebrate it” but just because someone else is a piece of shit isn’t a blank check for you* to be a piece of shit.
*Collective “you”
cm0002@piefed.world 5 hours ago
There's a difference between being an asshole and being an asshole while monetizing it and corrupting the next generation.
Even the CEO guy who got Luigi'd was not as bad as Charlie Kirk in my eyes, he just made evil decisions for profit
Charlie Kirk exported his evil. Taught kids how to be evil. To be all manner of phobic. To hate. He actively worked to make the world a worse place
Fuck him
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Exactly. I’ve been saying this all day, but we literally hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Kirk made his whole career doing. Kirk was guilty of incitement to genocide.
Gaja0@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
I don’t like the tone of that. If some dude peddling bullshit gets what he deserves, I don’t see the reason not to relish in it even a little. This guy has been an oppressive POS who’s rhetoric is celebrated by Neo Nazis. That’s like saying, “just cuz hitler died doesn’t mean you get to say mean things.”
Look, I know we all struggle to maintain morality against our emotions, but, sometimes, the reaction is perfectly valid.
itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I’m not celebrating his death, I’m celebrating the fact that he will no longer be calling for violence. Don’t see how that makes me the bad guy
Dojan@pawb.social 5 hours ago
I respect the dead the same way Hoots and Caelan Conrad do. I wonder if small face man from Toilet Paper USA will get an episode.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Billy Joel was finally wrong: not only the good die young.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
“Some gun deaths are worth in order to have the second amendment”
I hope he had couple minutes to reflect on this before he died.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 4 hours ago
Stupid fuckers on Australian news are going with the ‘conservative activist’ shit.
Nazi pig got put down like the animal he was. Activism is for the oppressed against their oppressors.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
“A few gun deaths are worth it to protect the God given rights of women and LGBTQ+.” - Charlie Kirk
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
So we’re just practicing what Charlie preached by not giving a single fuck that he died by a shooting.
Auth@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Oh hell yeah. I’m cracking open a bottle of wine for celebration. I could get used to more of this
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 14 minutes ago
Let’s also not forget how giddy he was when Paul pelosi was nearly killed over his politics.
independent.co.uk/…/paul-pelosi-charlie-kirk-bail…