Internet was a mistake. It gave all the anti science people and crackpots a platform for their ideas.
Scientific unprogress...
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magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Making it easy was the mistake, the internet was great when knowing what tcp/ip actually is was a barrier to entry.
Gatekeeping isn’t a dirty word.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This also exposed just how many stupid people are out there. We all assumed that making infinite knowledge available would be the rising tide which lifts all boats; instead, the rising tide is a tsunami of idiocy and willful ignorance.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Can we please just make network that has a higher barrier to entry than spending 1000 dollars on an iPhone but through a 4 year loans?
black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I mean, a lotta fucking Nazis knew what TCP/IP was back in the 80s, too.
shneancy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
this would would only help our sanity, the stupid people would still be stupid, just not as loudly
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
In this regard, I absolutely have come to agree.
I always say: “The Internet should be for anyone! But it shouldn’t have been for everyone .”
godlessworm@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
the internet isn’t to be blamed. capitalism is. capitalists have weaponized the internet against the population and created these people because when people are uninformed they’re easier to exploit and manipulate
the internet is an incredible tool. it’s controlled by the worst pieces of shit satan could have ever imagined tho
CleverOleg@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
Right I understand and sympathize with OP’s point, but there’s probably zero chance I’d be a commie without the internet.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Tbf, the same was said about the printing press back then
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Only a rich crackpot could distribute pamphlets claiming colloidal silver cures cancer, and then they’d still only reach people in walking distance.
Now, any moron can reach literally the entire world at no cost or effort.
magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Carving symbols on stone tablets was a mistake
1984@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Its not anti science to not blindly trust science. Its actual science to try and verify observations. Sure, most people dont have those skills to properly know what they are observing, but I think its good if people try to learn.
I learned tons of stuff about the common pitfalls about measuring the curvature of the earth by looking at flat earth arguments and seeing what science says about them.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Using lasers to track earth curvature across a big lake for example, absolutely fascinating to see why it doesnt work as you may expect.
Why would it not work as I expect? I’m expecting some beam decoherence, and possible deflecting due to temperature differences over a cold lake.
OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
My brother is a crank because ChatGPT enables him.
Zephorah@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I’m still convinced flat earthers are an internet hoax/troll.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’ve seen a super genius flying with a bubble level.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well, while I agree that things are pretty shit and regressive, let’s not downplay the achievements we’ve had in the past 10 years:
- Completion of The Standard Model of Physics with the detection of the Higgs Boson.
- mRNA technology, which is now a serious candidate for curing HIV, and is potentially capable of being used against most viral diseases.
- Imaging a black hole. Doing it again. Providing more proof of general relativity.
- Measuring gravity waves. Doing it as a normal measurement now.
- Salt batteries are finally reaching the market, which will eventually end the destructive mining and refinement of lithium.
- The James Webb Space Telescope, which was already making breakthroughs and creating new questions within the first 3 months of activation.
- Solar power becoming incredibly cost effective.
- Cybernetic limbs for the physically disabled. Yes, cybernetic limbs.
- Though overused; medication that effectively combats eating disorders.
These are just the ones I know from the top of my head.
Thorry@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
One of the most important ones that a lot of people use every day are the huge advancements that have been made in creating modern chips. It might not be something new and exciting, but it actually involves very groundbreaking work and huge breakthroughs. Not just the crazy machines that ASML makes, thought to be breaking the laws of physics just years ago. But also advancements in manufacturing, being able to create super advanced 3D structures and large scale manufacturing at a very high level, yet with a surprising consistency in quality and low cost. Not just for ever bigger, more efficient and faster chips, but also things like MEMS at tiny sizes and low cost.
Often it’s taken for granted what we have. People saying stuff to the sentiment that this isn’t the future, everything is boring, we haven’t got flying cars or people living on Mars. But the fact we all got this ultra powerful computer, with a high resolution high framerate self emitting screen, no active cooling, a bunch of sensors, lots of memory and storage and hyper connected to all sorts of networks, all powered by a high capacity high power low wear battery should be mind blowing. And not just that, but it fits in our pockets and they are so cheap everyone has at least one. Just because we’ve chosen to spec our tech tree into the small stuff instead of the large stuff, doesn’t mean we haven’t come a long way.
I think people look at the past at new “inventions” and think that’s the way progress is. New revolutionary stuff. It’s why people often invest in crowd funding of obvious scam products. They want something that changes the game. In reality it’s a lot of little steps that create a big change over time. And imho this has always been the case. We always hear about the Wright brothers “inventing” the airplane. Like they had some magic sauce and thought of something nobody else thought of before. Then made it and bam the world was changed. In reality they didn’t invent anything, they developed it. They made prototypes and iterative refinements. And they were far from the only ones working on the exact same concept. If they didn’t finish first, someone else would have within the same time frame. But the romantic story of two American blokes with the right stuff changing the world all on their own just sounds good.
So let’s also celebrate the thousands of smaller breakthroughs that got us where we are today.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
You’re right, I try to remind myself to marvel at the incredibly cool science we wield every single day.
But I’m also pained because I understand where the “boring future” folks come from too:
Where would we be if all this incredible technology was actually designed for humanity and not simply for profits at all cost? If optimizing for humanity was the target instead of exploiting it?
Smartphones, for instance. Small, networked computers! In your pocket! Wow! I’ve always wanted a pocket laptop! But they sure don’t feel like it. They’re designed to be content (mainly ad) delivery devices and data miners first, and useful machines second.
(There are some tiny niche actual-computer palmtops now which are pretty cool.)
I think that’s the part that gets people kinda depressive about modern science breakthroughs. The coolest stuff, the working folk don’t even get to tangibly feel much benefit from.
Discovery is locked behind paywall research journals and implementation is marketed in the interests of capital and used against us to make us work harder for longer hours for less pay.
What’s happening to space is a VERY stark illustration of all this. NASA unifying humanity and working globally on projects like the ISS was INSPIRING.
Now it’s all about private interests and their stupid desires, like space hotels for the elite.
I bet we’d marvel at technology designed for human beings, and not sheer exploitation.
Kratzkopf@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I love your enthusiasm! But as someone who works in semiconductor development, I feel a bit like it is time to abandon this branch of the technology tree for now again. Maybe I am just disheartened from the PhD stress, but where does it really lead to right now? Following up on Moore’s Law right now just seems to promise higher efficiency and lower electricity demands while actually that is mainly greenwashing attempt IMO (lower resolution technologies are more energy and resurce efficient when considering resource demand during production; high device density leads usually to increase of the number of transistors which are operated parallely, so while the single FET is more efficient in dynamic operation, the whole chip might have much higher leakage). At the same time this efficiency is used as justification to just increase the calculation load whithout considering if it is useful (e.g. LLMs). Resources might be better allocated for More than Moore/architectural approaches e.g. for neuromorphic computing to actually reduce the immense AI computing load coming up.
Sorry for the rant, I think I gotta quit my job.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But the fact we all got this ultra powerful computer, with a high resolution high framerate self emitting screen, no active cooling, a bunch of sensors, lots of memory and storage and hyper connected to all sorts of networks, all powered by a high capacity high power low wear battery should be mind blowing.
I think it is still mindblowing in the gaming/simulation realm.
This is something that gets a lot of human passion poured in and (to an extent) gets hardware utilized quite efficiently. It’s also a miracle for number-crunching researchers, or those who’s only hope of investigating something is simulation, heh.
But yeah, it feels like other aspects got drowned in eshittification. My phone would be able to host the whole old internet, pretty much! There should be so much collaboration, but manpower is instead poured into reinventing corporate infrastructure like 100,000 times over?
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Though overused; medication that effectively combats eating disorders.
I’d argue underused / inappropriately prescribed by social class. There are millions who could benefit from them who have poor access, while if you have money the Rx just gets thrown readily at your feet.
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Extreme longevity shows serious advancements (but in mice only).
Common let’s pile up some more good stuff!
mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Thank you. With all the awfull stuff going on the atm I tend to forget all the amazing things we humans still achieve.
vin@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
Gravity waves detection and cheap solar cells are mind-blowing to me. Gravity waves for just the sensitivity achieved and solar for how rapidly it’s improved. It used be a cute technology used in calculators, impossible to match economically turning a generator or directly burning stuff, and now it’s the default first choice.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
These are monetizable inventions, that are allowed, when big money backs them. Climate fuckery threatens incumbent big money, even when it threatens the little people’s property values and cost of living.
nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Also, it’s engineers who land robots on other planets, not scientists
Sl00k@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
No reason to pin two bad bitches against each other.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not sure I mentioned anything about landing on other planets… However, engineering and science are closely related.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I don’t want to downplay some of the amazing things in this list but i dint think the standard model of physics as made by humans can ever be completed.
What did happen is that something like HB must exists in order to make most of other things work. Now that we know HB is verifiably real we tied up a major loose end.
But there is still many stuff unanswered and a “complete model” would require constant revision.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The standard model of physics is not implying it has the answer to everything, or that there is nothing new to discover. The standard model of physics is the periodic table for fundamental particles. The bits that make up all the other parts.
billwashere@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Also scientists today: Vaccines do not cause autism and actually work.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That was last year.
Now it’s… Tylenol?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean if it gets physicians to stop overprescrecribing medicines with it
nialv7@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah but it was 90s scientist who said vaccines caused autism though. Which just invalidates the point this tweet was trying to make.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
One single comment by one shitty doctor in a magazine. He didn’t even say that. He basically said ‘some parent thought that maybe their child started to exhibit autism-like symptoms shortly after receiving a vaccine’.
I am not fucking kidding you. That was it! No study, no control groups, no sample size. Nothing. Just one stray comment that is shorter than this one I am writing now and it is the foundation of their entire theory.
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
It was one “scientist” who by all accounts was a massive fraud and anyone with any semblance of smarts recognised that almost immediately. That the world is full of idiots is the problem.
ngwoo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Sorry but due to new government policy it is illegal to study or even acknowledge weather
T156@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You mentioned diverse weather conditions in your grant application, and we can’t have that.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
THIS ISNT EVEN AN EXAGGERATION
Zink@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
weather leads to climate, climate leads to fear…
Fear… leads to sOcIaLiSm!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Scientists once again remind you to not swim in shit.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
The CDC told me it was ok. Polio is good for you because it prevents autism.
Midnitte@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Polio is good for you because it prevents autism.
I guess that is technically true. Can’t have any autistic children if youre dead.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 weeks ago
Wrong. Flat Earthers do think the Earth is round.
The rest of us think it’s spherical.
witty_username@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Latest and greatest flat earth is that Antarctica is a wall that encircles us all. Well, it encircles the land that us normies are allowed to know about. Beyond the Antarctic wall lies a vastness of land that us normies are kept unaware of. I am not sure why. It was something to do with the riches of the secret land. Also, no one knows how far the land stretches. So the earth is flat but we don’t know how far it goes so we don’t know what the shape is really.
Just to be perfectly clear: I am not a flat earther and I don’t believe any of the above. It’s a load of (very entertaining) nonsense. Keep the documentaries coming please!UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Oblong spheroid to be pedantic.
EchoCranium@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I work with someone who believes the flat earth bullshit. Our company makes pharmaceutical actives, pretty much everyone there has degrees in science. Yet one guy persists with “the earth is flat”. I’m incredulous over the willful ignorance toward reality.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
am I old or does nobody remember the name Dolly?
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I seem to recall something about her working 9 to 5 and having an arch-nemesis called Jolene.
MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I feel bad for field researchers that have to do studies on critically endangered species
Imagine trying for days to find a specimen and then end up having to reclassify it as extinct
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Nice Try NASA, we all know the truth that Earth is a Donut. This is why cops think the own the planet.
Checkmate, FBI!
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Narrator: it was not the last time.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It took republicans a while to full dismantle everything. Their almost done now so, yay?
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I want to help them build that wall, so we can keep them inside, and watch what happens when a government does everything opposite of good.
Corelli_III@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
pretending that generation didn’t hobble science for anti-intellectual cultists is just bullshit
what happened to stem cell research in the USA exactly?
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wasn’t it bush that shut it of to get fanatic religious votes?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sad Jesus noises
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Scientists of tomorrow: Colloidal silver cures all disease unless you are possessed by demons or a witch.
If witch, please turn your self into authorities for immediate incineration.
If demons, please report to your nearest wellness camp for rehabilitation.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
“Scientists”, media, politicians, etc… today: I’ve created an artificial intelligence!!!
Actual scientists: The planet is being destroyed.
People: I don’t know who to believe.
Seriously “science” is so full of grifters that I’m not surprised flat-earthism is flourishing.
Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Second part should be “And climatechange is real.”
alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
For the last time?! These “modern scientists” are sure not history researchers then!
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Actually the physics model to use is typically the simplest one that works, i.e. that gets the job done.
When your job is to drive a truck to the nearest city, the curvature of the Earth is negligible and it’s simpler to assume that the earth is flat, so that is the model that you should use.
As such, yeah, for 99% of use cases, the earth is flat.
omniman@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Earth is not round it's imperfect circle
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Free speech is a double edged sword
cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Or you could say Scientific CONgress…
…
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Spelling out each decimal of bitcoin instead of using standard notation…
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
is that what your satanic sheep told you?
Una@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
mrrrreow
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, the vaccines are… Are you feeding that baby unpasteurized milk?!? What the fuck, guys?
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Tbf, breastmilk isn’t normally pasteurized
ramble81@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
And it’s immediately consumed usually, or is frozen and its composition differs from cows milk and is designed for human consumption.
Don’t know why you brought that up, unless it’s to point out how stupid people are thinking unpasteurized cows milk is drinkable because human milk doesn’t need to be.
Vorticity@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It typically is pasteurized if it comes from a woman other than the baby’s own mother. If it is donated milk, for example.
Zephorah@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I lol’d.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Poe’s law, my dude. There are definitely dipshits who make the argument that milk doesn’t need to be pasteurized because breast milk isn’t pasteurized.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
A joke doesn’t work when it’s indistinguishable from the stuff that people actually say
You are on a written medium, where there is no tone, body language, or otherwise wider context. What do you expect to happen? People can’t read your mind
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Grass is not pasteurized.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No we’re feeding the baby unpasteurized goats.
Damage@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
With or without added helium?