Submitted 8 months ago by thal3s@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory. (TikTok screencap)
Ive lived through a few of these already.
2020 is when everything changed.
2016 is when everything chagned.
2012 is when everything changed.
2008 is when everything changed.
2001 is when everything changed.
I vote for 2016. The unthinkable happened.
We shot that poor damn gorilla.
Boomer: 1968
Martin Scorcese: 33 AD
I lived through all these. 2001 and 2008 were horrible, but sort of felt like a normal kind of horrible. Recessions and terrorism were things I’d seen before. It was only the scale that made those anomalous.
From my (American) perspective 2016 was when shit started getting very weird. We were relatively stable, relatively prosperous, foreign wars were tapering off… And half the country decided that a game show host was her best bet going forward.
Then it started snowballing… Bill Cosby’s a rapist, there’s a global pandemic, Kanye put out a pro-Hitler song, Pete Davidson is a sex symbol that no starlet in Hollywood can resist, The secretary of health had his brain eaten by worms, everything you own or use became a subscription service, The fear Factor guy became a political king maker, The first lady has a crypto scam that everyone’s kind of okay with, we created AI but it’s only good for spam and rule 34 tweets, we decided political corruption isn’t a crime if you brag about it, America’s war machine is being turned on its cities… Oh and the US is building full on concentration camps.
It’s a very strange time even compared to occupy, The tea party, or Bush riding out 9/11 Reading a children’s book in an elementary school.
Perhaps this is the result of ‘modern’ values corrupting our society.
We must return to the old status quo
None of those are correct. There is before Harambe and after Harambe. The day he was killed everything changed.
Almost like something happens every 4-8 years. hmm
It was all pretty normal at least in USA until Sept 10, 2001.
Trump was president in 2019 and I remember him cutting massive amounts of food aid (means on wheels) for elderly people during Christmas time. It was some serious Scrooge shit, except he didn’t get three ghosts to make him mend his ways.
He got the three ghosts, he just slept through them.
These kind of lib delusions are how we got here.
American defaultism.
This isn’t about America. The whole world was fucking nuts in 2020. We kicked it off by burning Australia to the ground and a few months later, we had so many world disasters, COVID in the forefront, that we forgot Australia.
The old people who run the world feel the weight of their impending deaths, but in their narcissism they have mistaken it for the oncoming end of the world.
Tell that to the zoomers.
In their mind the world will end with their deaths, so they are only doing what nature bids them to so. If they had it their way they would detonate every nuclear weapon in existence within a few seconds of their final demise to take everyone with them.
Been a few blurbs published about how covid affects brains
June 26th 2015 was the peak for the U.S. It’s been downhill from there.
There’s too many people and the simulation can’t keep up a coherent narrative
This was going on under the surface all this time, growing and growing, people just did not see it as a valid concern thinking “crazy people” or “stupid people” will “come around eventually”. They did not expect there’d be enough of them to pull the carriage backwards.
It was 2014. That was the final year of that Obama high where things really felt like they were turning a corner before we were slowly confronted with a world where Donald Trump might actually be president, and the only one standing in his way was somehow Hillary Clinton, a woman that Republicans had been preparing to beat for literally 20 years.
It was the year before europeans arrived.
YouTube was like 2006, not 1400s. Where are you getting your information?
You remember the year 1400?
This is actually the right answer. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and we’re all still in the middle of what is essentially a no-declared-sides WWIII now. 2015 was good, but things had shifted in the world a bit. Countering China was starting to become a huge deal suddenly for the US, and China moved into the South China Sea and did some currency revaluation that was all aimed at their 2029 and 2049 CCP anniversary goals.
Also, I was in fucking phenomenal shape.
I’d argue that 9/11 was when the major shift started in the US.
Its whatever best year you remember. From ny perspective, its been sharply downhill since 2000.
Those older than me often say it went to shit during the Reagan years. Its been slowly getting worse for a long time.
It’s whatever year that the oppression affecting the less privileged finally reached you.
Dimpled chads and the Brooks Brothers riots. The Jingoism that followed 9/11 masked the turn things would be taking.
Syeve bannon was behind the media push that ended it. He’s talked about it in interviews.
Steve Bannon gave birth to GamerGate through WoW guilds.
Insert small to large dominos meme where the small domino is some disheveled guy playing WoW at 3 AM talking about how women suck and the large one is Donald Trump recreating concentration camps, J6, or whatever dystopian bullshit else that has happened in the last few years.
You may not have been paying close attention. Obama was astoundingly better than Trump, but invasive spying on citizens was allpwed to remain legal under his watch, and he extended what was allowed. Drone striking questionable targets started under him as well. There’s more, but those two are the highlights usually brought up.
Right, Obama didn't snap his fingers and fix every problem in the world or country, but it really felt like we were finally getting to a point where we had a new liberal voting coalition which would start to push US politics left, so that we could finally unwind a lot of those underlying legacy issues.
Fixing the core issues which created this "obligate imperialism" in the first place were never going to be fixed in the span of one decade, but Obama arguably set us up to grind out more progress in the next administration.
That's why this whole thing is so frustrating. We were on the path to a supreme court majority and burying a lot of old school conservative ideas in the coming decades, and now we are farther away than ever, because so many people can't see the long game.
Trump did more drone strikes in his first term than Obama did in both his terms. And that is only of the strikes we know. At one point trump declared that strikes dont need to be reported and they didn’t count the number of strikes afterward.
Biden actually fully ended drone strikes… and he did it quietly without much fanfare.
Drone striking questionable targets
if you want to bring up warcrimes, the world has never been normal, especially not the US, they’ve been up to some heinious shit since before we were born
The worst the obama administration got was a typical couple of weeks of the Trump administration. It is so much worse now it’s unthinkable out could have gotten this bad when looking from the perspective of 2015.
But he spoke well and smiled a lot, especially when fake-drinking that Flint water. What a hero.
The timelines been screwed since harambe was murdered.
I left the US after Bush Jr was elected and it was the best decision of my life. That's when fascism started it's slow ramp up in the USA
If you think fascism started with Bush, then you missed about 400 years of history.
It's always been there somewhere in the shadows, but that was the first time I saw it happening out in the open.
I’ve always found it some form of narcissism or something that people always find some way to interpret something during their time as the most/best/worst whatever.
Kind of like how every election is always the most important election ever.
Or today is the most or least safe or all of these ridiculous things people suggest anecdotally. Your average person has little knowledge or context of history and just selfishly presumes, yes, NOW, this time, OUR time is the most crazy.
I watched a few documentaries on the 100 Years’ War recently; I’m convinced we’re still living out THAT trauma … and that was just one crazy time out of many. It’s one of the ways I cope with climate change and the degradation of the global environment: reminding myself that living in really fucked up times is more the norm than anything. I do believe that modern technology and the absolute privilege we live with has given many of us in the developed world the illusion that we’re in control of the world. I have a suspicion that the awareness of how little we can do to stop the sheer randomness and brutality of life and human callousness is why religion has been so prevalent for most of history, it’s people having some solidarity in, “Holy shit, this is fucked. God, save us, you’re obviously our only hope.”
Actually that was 1997
hhhooo boy…let me tell you about how it felt to live in the world before September 11th 2001…
it was freaking amazing.
idk, I was a kid and harry potter wasn’t real, so that kind of sucked for me
ah yes, 2000, when JKR wasn’t known to be a fascist supporting shitheel.
We were downloading MP3s on dial up.
Napster ring a bell?
Who knew bands had so many unreleased songs?
Man oh man. I went Napster crazy.
I came here to say the exact same thing. 9/11 changed the US forever in a bad way.
Those who are willing to give up liberty for a semblance of safety deserve neither and all that.
I feel like that about 2016. I’m telling you, it all started with Harambe. It all went downhill from there XD
I think the last normal year was either 2012 or 2013.
It’s absolutely social media to blame imo. 10 years ago they were only just starting with the aggressive algorithms we know today. This combined with the rise of TikTok and its own algorithm has lead to a resurgence of the right. I believe this was a direct response to how progressive we seemed to be getting in the 2010s. The wealthy right were getting scared. I occasionally accidentally see YouTube “recommendations” and it’s usually unhinged right wing shit with millions of views.
I occasionally accidentally see YouTube “recommendations” and it’s usually unhinged right wing shit with millions of views.
As someone who regularly watches my youtube recs, I never see this. Maybe it’s because youtube knows my preferences from watching their recommendations…
On the other hand youtube is definitely trash that promotes fascism. So I’m not doubting you either.
Oh yeah I’m never logged into an account; so I when I see it, I see what it’s pushing as trending and popular. These days I use Freetube and only see what’s “recommended” by accident when I occasionally use YouTube on my iPad.
When I used to use an account I also didn’t see any fascist shit either, so at least that’s a way to avoid it!
Same but with 2012.
Maybe the Mayan apocalypse people were right.
2016 as a gen z i reamber the xanax epidemic of the time and it was bad
Was that when the mumble rapper OD’d on hot cheetos?
that was after this was more of the “look at me i do xanax cos im so sad crowd”
2005 was the best year: France had a hot and dry summer, so the grapes got a high concentration in sugars and tannins, which gave to most wines of that year an extreme deepness and complexity. Oh, I miss 2005 so much.
Yeah 2005 was good.
It felt like maybe the 2nd Gulf War was starting to wind down a bit, and there was some hope that maybe both the US and Al-Qaeda/Islamic State were going to chill their boots a little.
The internet was at its peak in terms of usefulness versus not having been taken over and enshittified by a tiny collection of megacorporations.
TV was getting pretty good as well.
Yeah, the 90s were still best, but 2005 was the best year since then.
Ah youngins
It’s been downhill for quite some time
All these people saying INSANE things like “2015” break my goddamn heart. Like… there’s no way for them to know just how much better it could be.
It’s infuriating that the people making it worse absolutely DO know better.
It says 2019 to trick the viewer into commenting “no 2012” or 2016, since no real human thinks everything was great until 2019. It’s bait for interactions.
This is an ad for McDonald’s
I wouldn’t say things were great up until 2019, but 2020 and beyond is when things really seemed to go to shit
Fall of 2012. Obama wins again. Weed is legal in some states. Gay marriage. Nuclear powered tank lands on Mars. iPhone 5.
Well I know it wasn’t gay marriage… Must’ve been csused by the iPhone 5.
The real insanity stems from everybody having a random lingering covid symptom that's just annoying enough to drive you insane, but not bad enough to kill you. 5 years later, I still get phantom burning smells that I can't even compare to anything I've ever smelled before. It's torture.
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I second 2015 as the last year things sucked on a normal and bearable Level.
My ex wife cheated on me on December 28th, 2019.
I took a whole bunch of pills two weeks later that apparently are not lethal in any amount.
However, since then, I am all but convinced we live in hell, because never once in the past 5 and a half years has anything gotten better.
I’m sorry y’all. This might be the bad place.
I messed around with pills pretty bad back in 2012 and ended up with seratonin syndrome one night. Good things have happened since but nothing ever felt normal since then. Ive never talked to a doctor or psychologist about it (really anyone now that I think about it) but I swear my brain never recovered fully. Mix that in with some concussions a few years before from HS football and I feel like my brain is just broken. It might just been depression, but stuff seemed so much brighter before.
Sorry for my own rambling, but I wish you well and understand where you are coming from.
All that happened to me is I was in a drunk like state for 36 hours.
I got a big promotion? I found a new group of friends? That’s about it though.
I’m sorry but it’s been hell here on Earth since at least 2015. Your own legitimately terrible events were individual symptoms of the larger pestilence. Either that or a lot of us were already in hell before you got here.
No, no you are right, dicks out man. Dicks out.
Miami, the chads hanging.
Are you fucking dumb? Do you not remember Drumpf’s first term in office?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And that’s my theory as to how Trump won a second term. A lot of people think that 2019 is the cutoff
Personally I think it was 2015 was the last normal year for the world and my life hasn’t recovered from 2012
kreskin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe stable for you, but the rest of the world wont leave your world alone. Defund and reallocate happened in those years. The genocide of Palestinians under a Dem president using your tax dollars started in 2023. And Ukraine was invaded in 2022.