It could be the aging population. If 100% of people 20-40 have sex and 0% of 40-60 then that’s 50% if both groups are equally strong.
Now if it’s 1/3 and 2/3 then it’s only 33%.
That's an impressive drop. Any ideas why?
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plyth@feddit.org 5 hours ago
downhomechunk@midwest.social 10 hours ago
My wife and I go through hot & cold spells. I think we have similar drives, but our timing doesn’t always match up. I’m more of a “harness the power of the morning wood” sort of fellow. She’s more of a “I want it right now but he’s still at work” sort of gal. We both talk a big game, but work, childcare and adulting conspire against us.
daannii@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of.
Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn’t.
Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven’t been since the fecking 1900s.
Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.
Women are dying from pregnancy. Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.
Women are scared.
I realize not every sex encounter is a man and woman. But most of the population is hetero.
vga@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
It’s a huge turn off to be with someone who thing you are lower than them. Who thinks you don’t deserve basic human rights.
While I don’t disagree with this theory, I wonder why you would think that this is a recent development.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
The awareness is relatively recent. “The woman place is in the kitchen” is not an old thing.
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
Can I also add in stress and other environmental factors?
YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Should I invest in sex now that it’s low?
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
Nah its going to rock bottom
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Not if I have any say in the matter!
…yeah, it’s going to rock bottom.
jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 12 hours ago
Maybe that’s the problem. A lot of the ladies I know say that sort of thing is uncomfortable.
Surp@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
World of Warcraft 😁
ICastFist@programming.dev 13 hours ago
There’s a considerable uptick just before 2010, so WoW players must’ve been having lots of sex during WotLK years
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
From a top raid trainer at the time, “Knock down drag-out fight, killed 'em and looted ‘em. Finally log off at the end of the raid, and?’ WoW Players in WotLK say, ‘Tough fight. Boss is down, I’m alive. Finally get to bed at the end of the run, and?’ They all say, 'The best sex I’ve had in months.”
nectar45@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
People are just not very attractive nowadays
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
I blame the GenZ broccoli haircut.
alekwithak@lemmy.world 2 days ago
People are stretched as thin as can be and stressed beyond belief. Then during their free time they are inundated by algorithms that are made to keep them scrolling and to feel as many negative emotions as possible. Then their food is full of hormones and their food wrappers and cosmetics and toiletries are all full of phthalates and microplastics and undisclosed hormone disrupting chemicals. All in a progressively protestant society that increasingly isolates us from one another and shames us for our natural urges and feelings and bodies, all in the name of selling us unnatural solutions for these “problems.”
It’s a mystery though.
mienshao@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s not a mystery, it’s social media. This isn’t fucking hard folks.
Also, this study is by a conservative think tank and is biased as hell. They’re trying to force kids to marry young to have a bunch of children for “god’s army.” These “data” showing declining sex rates gives these conservatives fuel for their crusade. This is all also closely linked to the great replacement theory. None of this information should be taken at face value.
vga@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
Lack of genuine idle time breeds … non-breeding.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Many animals breed less in captivity. Many do not breed at all. The less people feel a sense of control over their own lives, the weaker the desire to procreate becomes. Even if people use birth control, sex drive is still ultimately a reproductive urge. If you’re a farmer in the 19th century ? You have a great deal of freedom and independence. Mid 20th century American worker? Homes are cheap. Jobs are abundant. Labor rights are strong. You have lots of options on how to earn a living. You have a clear path to getting a home and raising a family on your own terms. Present-day 20 something? You don’t just have roommates in an apartment; you’re actually sharing bedrooms. Or you’re stuck living under your parents’ roof forever, your only hope of home ownership being them passing it on to you. All the jobs available to you don’t come close to providing any kind of independent living, let alone the wages to actually buy a home, start a family, etc. You’re just going to have to run on the wage slave treadmill til you die.
The economy has developed to squeeze ever more out of workers and consumers. We’re psychologically manipulated at every turn. Every business feels like a scam trying to pull one over on you. You can’t even sign up for a gym membership without risking getting caught in dark business practices (their infamous cancellation policies.) People feel and are trapped in a system that they have little to no control over. Politicians only listen to the wealthy. Unions provided some voice to the voiceless for some time, but those have been gutted. People feel like cornered animals. They feel as though the entire system is just on elaborate exercise in thinly veiled slavery meant to extract every last once of the work product of your entire life from you. The wealthy pay you a pittance for your labor and then take all that pittance back in usurious rents. People feel trapped.
Lots of animals refuse to reproduce in captivity. Lots of animals reduce their birth rates under captivity. Why should humans be any different? Why should we be any different than the mice of Universe 25?
cley_faye@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I’d say a larger part of the population being aware that they can reject “unsolicited requests” is a part of it.
Also, it requires meeting people to some extent. That sounds boring.
BearGun@ttrpg.network 16 hours ago
Gotta have both a partner and time to have sex ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
callouscomic@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
- People are more willing to be honest now.
- How much of that sex in the past had the same amount of consent?
AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It says 1990 not 1900!
cley_faye@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
You think 1990 where a time of full consent and awareness about other sensitivities? Oh boy.
malware@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
No idea. I can just say that at least for me it wasn’t voluntary. 17 through 21 tried dating some people, only one agreed and then made fun of me publically and sent me photos of fucking other dudes. Since then I got depressed really hard and gained a lot of weight and lost a lot of hair, still trying my best to recover and lose weight. I somehow missed that one girl in college that gave me signs that she likes me, and it made me even more depressed, thinking that I lost my only hope. Idk why I wrote this, sorry if you read it, just had something stuck in my throat and needed to type it out.
ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 2 days ago
It happens, the ‘did I miss a cue’ can be brutal if it keeps replaying. Only real answer I know is being content with your own self and if someone also happens to fall into that same space all the better. People get so inundated with images of what’s ‘possible’ which a good chunk of it’s enhanced with selective posting and filters, so we get some unrealistic view of what a normal happy life is supposed to be.
As for the sending pics, shitty people aren’t worth the brain space to stress over, you dodged a bullet there.
malware@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I just heard in a song something similar to “being content with your own self” and I see your comment, what a nice coincidence. Totally agree, trying to help myself from living in my head where I made an ideal of what should everything be. Came to it only recently, after drinking bit too much and crying a lot. I think I got a piece of my hope back because of that, so it’s easier going forward now.
_hovi_@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Just keep working on yourself friend. Only way things don’t work out in the long run is if you stop trying
malware@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Thanks, hovi. I will. Appreciated ❤️
TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Blues Traveler song I love has a very similar line; “There’s no such thing as a failure who keeps trying. Coasting to the bottom is the only mistake.”. I heard it at a young age, when I absolutely needed to hear it. I have done my best to teach my children and close friends this. You can do it. What “it” is may change in the effort… But if you keep trying, you will never be a failure.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
In life there are an infinite number of connections we’ll miss, the positive is we don’t need to make nearly that many.
The first step is to work on yourself, but you don’t need to drastically change who you are just learn to love yourself as you are.
Once you can manage that, it’s a lot easier to find connections.
malware@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Jee, I nearly choked on my ramen when I read your name 😂😂. Yea, totally agree, thank you
Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Spousal Rape Laws started getting enforced finally.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
An ex once who told me that she had a rape fetish, was totally into it. I was against it but since she was longing for it so badly I told her “I‘ll do it during week 18 but I won’t tell you when” and she was excited.
Long story short: she enjoyed it while it lasted but cried afterwards because I was too harsh.
Years later I ran into her husband and it turned out that she has BPD.
I am very lucky to have had a written contract back then.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 21 hours ago
I think generally you’d want to start smaller when trying any CNC stuff. But hey, a lot of kinks exist only in our minds but aren’t something people want to try, and sometimes we find out the hard way. I hope you two have each other the aftercare needed to move past that.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
So we’re gonna see it go back up?
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day ago
I have a really high sex drive and I’ve never been in a relationship where I consistently got it often enough to be satisfied so I stopped trying. It also doesn’t help that my living situation is not conducive to bringing people home with me.
Ibaudia@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’ve also never been in a relationship that totally satisfied my sex drive, so I feel this a lot. My fiance used to be very sexual like me, but then she went on antidepressants and that was kinda killed. Now, she’s off then again, but her sex drive never rebounded, even though she thinks I’m more attractive now that I’ve been working out and gained muscle. Just sad to be jerking off in the office or bathroom every day instead of being intimate with someone you love because they don’t want to have sex with you 🫤
I don’t blame her or anything, it just hurts my soul a bit. Her sex drive is so low now that I feel guilty and anxious even asking, because I know she’ll either reject it outright or just tolerate it if she really wants to make me happy that day, which kills it for me.
I’d say we only really have sex where we’re both equally enjoying it maybe once every few weeks to once a month. If her drive were the same as mine, that would be once or twice a day. Just a shitty situation for me.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day ago
I don’t blame her or anything, it just hurts my soul a bit. Her sex drive is so low now that I feel guilty and anxious even asking, because I know she’ll either reject it outright or just tolerate it if she really wants to make me happy that day, which kills it for me.
Yeah, I’m single now and intend to stay that way but I don’t blame my exes or hold it against women as a whole. It’s just a fact of life. It has bothered me enough to end relationships over it but it was just about the incompatibility not any malice towards them. I’d much rather just hang out as friends and not have that “is she going to be in the mood or not?” question running in my head the whole time or feeling shitty if I make a move and get shot down, or worry that they’re feeling like I’m trying to pressure them into something. It just creates a bad situation and stresses me out because it’s not like I can just turn it off. I’ve tried jacking off but my shit recovers too fast when I’m around a woman that I like for that to help.
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Although I feel sorry for you and your situation, I honestly wonder, how someone can jerk off in the office…
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Monogamist problems.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
Sex in an unaffordable luxury and a deadly liability, I’m surprised it is still that high, I imagine those are people who didn’t stop to think about the wild and unnecessary risk they’re taking and how they’ll regret it functionally forever.
Mpatch@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
What? How sheltered are you?
cley_faye@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
think about the wild and unnecessary risk they’re taking and how they’ll regret it functionally forever
hmm what? Unless I missed a very big part of this, you’re not dropping a percentage of your soul when you have sex, it usually conclude with a good shower, and if you were not cautious at all with protection, a pill.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
The pill isn’t your choice and soon they’ll take the pill away entirely to shore up the numbers of the working class but you end up footing the bill, for life. At least it does give purpose to the endless busywork that you have to do to pay for the mistake of intimacy.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
You’re not doing it right.
WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
I imagine it’s a continuation of the isolation that social media causes..
bulwark@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I came to the same conclusion. I don’t doubt that sex is on the decline but whatever data this “Family Studies” collected to graph this is dubious at best. I think I saw a sample size of 2,000, but knowing this has some religious angle, they probably polled at church or something and are only interested in the procreation of the “right” people.
mienshao@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s the internet/social media. Not sure why we’re acting like this is a hard one. We are literally replacing real-life interactions with virtual ones—including sex. Wouldn’t be surprised if masturbation rates have drastically increased in that same timeframe.
realitista@piefed.world 2 days ago
Poverty, depression, gooning to porn.. Must I go on?
Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
healthline.com/…/antidepressant-sexual-side-effec…
The best answer is how anti depressants which at least 20% of those in the USA take depresses the sex drive for both males and females.
daannii@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of.
Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn’t.
Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven’t been since the fecking 1900s.
Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.
Women are dying from pregnancy. Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.
Women are scared.
nectar45@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Yeah uhm…women would be the ones loosing here not men…
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
trend was before any new abortion bans. You probably cannot consider men avoiding women, but that is likely a larger overall factor.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 1 day ago
I’m also going to think the absinence-only education plays a role. I know people in their 20s today who didn’t understand: lube, protection, HIV, pregnancy. Some of them were HIV+ before they knew what happened. People are confused and uneducated. Thanks Christians!
BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
11.4% take anti depressants and between 40-65% experience some degree of sexual dysfunction so even using the highest numbers and assuming that the sexual dysfunction completely eliminates interest in sex (it doesn’t) that would only be 7.41%
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
No anti-depressants here. I’m depressed as shit. Ladies?
daannii@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
That’s some b.s rfk was saying. That’s not the cause. Dysfunction is not the same as low sex drive. It can mean any number of things.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I blame Newt Gingrich
realitista@piefed.world 2 days ago
If anyone could stop an entire country from fucking, it's that man.
showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 1 day ago
I don’t know man, It always comes back to Reagan doesn’t it?
vane@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Digital drugs AI, social media. People replaced sex with mobile phone dopamine hits. Misogyny and misandry in media. Lack of financial stability.
CarrierLost@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Humans have discovered we’re in captivity, and so we’ve stopped breeding.
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Notice it goes down over periods of time for which the political party in power is against women having bodily autonomy or rights?
And goes up when leftist policies such as expanding access to healthcare are introduced.
Pappabosley@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, women having choice over whether they have sex is the problem. They are naturally less sex-reliant than males and it is only through parties restricting those choices that you see a spike after they leave office. /s
Mossheart@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
I was warming up the down vote finger so hard until I saw the /s. Got me good.
joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not enough foreskin in America
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 1 day ago
You’d have to compare this graph to data from elsewhere in the world, though. Especially in the Western world.
Also, the fact that sex is less fun for men when most of their genitals’ nerve endings have been cut off does not mean it’s being performed less.
deaf_fish@midwest.social 1 day ago
I find computers endlessly fascinating and they are easier to understand than social interactions. If you took away easier forms of entertainment I would be seeking harder forms of entertainment. Probably also starting a revolution.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Do you think we will ever get to the point of “virtual sex” when you can experience something better than the real thing?
deaf_fish@midwest.social 12 hours ago
Maybe, with genetic modification. I think sex has the knobs maxed out for our current chemistry.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
What would be your first few steps in starting the revolution?
deaf_fish@midwest.social 12 hours ago
Organizing. Building community.
ronflex@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Besides plenty of other reasons people mentioned, Gen Z in particular is pretty antisocial. I’ve seen them hang out at bars, they might get one drink and just stare at their phone. Just anecdotal, but from what I’ve gathered it definitely feels like those type of folk either don’t know how to have fun or are averse to it. I don’t mean that in a completely negative way, either. I think covid really made a lot of people in general more socially inept. Again, I don’t mean that to denegrate and I’ve definitely felt that a bit myself.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Yes.
glorkon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, I had my 18th birthday in 1994 and I put everyone off since then.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 hours ago
9/11
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Probably depression, online dating ruining the entire dating world, and the economy sucking.
I remember growing up, you could go to a bar with friends, meet some people and there was always someone hooking up quickly. Or you grabbed a phone number and you were good for later.
Now it’s more “are you 6 foot tall?” “do you make six figures?” “what’s your snap or insta?” “are you a racist nazi that will murder me in my sleep?”
Then they can always say, ehhh, your not attractive enough for me, i’ll go on tinder and DM one of the 60 guys waiting for me. BYEEEEEEEE