That's an impressive drop. Any ideas why?

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• plyth@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It could be the aging population. If 100% of people 20-40 have sex and 0% of 40-60 then that’s 50% if both groups are equally strong.

  Now if it’s 1/3 and 2/3 then it’s only 33%.

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• LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Probably depression, online dating ruining the entire dating world, and the economy sucking.

  I remember growing up, you could go to a bar with friends, meet some people and there was always someone hooking up quickly. Or you grabbed a phone number and you were good for later.

  Now it’s more “are you 6 foot tall?” “do you make six figures?” “what’s your snap or insta?” “are you a racist nazi that will murder me in my sleep?”

  Then they can always say, ehhh, your not attractive enough for me, i’ll go on tinder and DM one of the 60 guys waiting for me. BYEEEEEEEE

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• downhomechunk@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My wife and I go through hot & cold spells. I think we have similar drives, but our timing doesn’t always match up. I’m more of a “harness the power of the morning wood” sort of fellow. She’s more of a “I want it right now but he’s still at work” sort of gal. We both talk a big game, but work, childcare and adulting conspire against us.

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• nectar45@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  People are just not very attractive nowadays

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I blame the GenZ broccoli haircut.

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• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  9/11

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’d say a larger part of the population being aware that they can reject “unsolicited requests” is a part of it.

  Also, it requires meeting people to some extent. That sounds boring.

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• Surp@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  World of Warcraft 😁

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s a considerable uptick just before 2010, so WoW players must’ve been having lots of sex during WotLK years

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• BearGun@ttrpg.network ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Gotta have both a partner and time to have sex ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes.

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• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sex in an unaffordable luxury and a deadly liability, I’m surprised it is still that high, I imagine those are people who didn’t stop to think about the wild and unnecessary risk they’re taking and how they’ll regret it functionally forever.

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  • Ibuthyr@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just use condoms? The fuck are you even talking about?

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t see the point, might as well not sex at all than do it in a rubber.

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    think about the wild and unnecessary risk they’re taking and how they’ll regret it functionally forever

    hmm what? Unless I missed a very big part of this, you’re not dropping a percentage of your soul when you have sex, it usually conclude with a good shower, and if you were not cautious at all with protection, a pill.

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The pill isn’t your choice and soon they’ll take the pill away entirely to shore up the numbers of the working class but you end up footing the bill, for life. At least it does give purpose to the endless busywork that you have to do to pay for the mistake of intimacy.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re not doing it right.

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  • Mpatch@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What? How sheltered are you?

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    u ok?

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yes

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• vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lack of genuine idle time breeds … non-breeding.

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• ronflex@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Besides plenty of other reasons people mentioned, Gen Z in particular is pretty antisocial. I’ve seen them hang out at bars, they might get one drink and just stare at their phone. Just anecdotal, but from what I’ve gathered it definitely feels like those type of folk either don’t know how to have fun or are averse to it. I don’t mean that in a completely negative way, either. I think covid really made a lot of people in general more socially inept. Again, I don’t mean that to denegrate and I’ve definitely felt that a bit myself.

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  • Jerkface@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Im a millennial and I just spent the last 7 years at Uni/CC and I’m not seeing any of this. COVID had a huge impact, but in general things seem pretty much the same as when I was in school in the 90’s/early aughts, except they’re on smartphones instead of Nokias. They just seem normal to me.

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    • Ibuthyr@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nah, a lot of them are useless. I see it at work. Many of them are incapable of making a quick phone call when they need something. They just don’t understand that people prioritize answers for people they actually know. You don’t get to know people via texting.

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  • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Younger generations seem to treat basic conversation as cringeworthy. Like the fact that you’re even talking to them is seen as appalling, regardless of the context.

    I’ve seen kids walk up to a register at a fast food joint, then act surprised and put off when the cashier asked for their order. Like the cashier was in the wrong for initiating a conversation. Oftentimes, the kid won’t even respond until the cashier is like “ooookay, uhh… If you’re not ready to order, can you step out of line?”

    The best description I’ve seen for it is “they’re waiting for the dialog options to load.” Because it 100% looks like they’re just waiting for some external force to move the conversation along. It reminds me of when boomers get the lead paint stare while waiting for the card reader to finish reading their chip. The machine will just be dinging at them to remove their card, the cashier will be like “Uhh sir? Please take your card” and the boomer will act surprised. Like they were just stuck in a loading screen while the rest of the party was already pulling mobs.

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• daannii@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of.

  Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn’t.

  Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven’t been since the fecking 1900s.

  Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.

  Women are dying from pregnancy. Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.

  Women are scared.

  I realize not every sex encounter is a man and woman. But most of the population is hetero.

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  • veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a huge turn off to be with someone who thing you are lower than them. Who thinks you don’t deserve basic human rights.

    Are you basing this on dating app matches? It might be a case of survivor bias

    To elaborate, what’s possibly happening is that only the assholes of society are the ones having a disproportionate level of exposure/influence on these apps because the good ones cycle out of it quickly enough when they find their viable partners. And then these assholes, who in fact represent a minority of the actual population, end up staining everyone else’s opinions by making them think these people are the majority of peoples’ behaviours.

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  • Ibuthyr@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t know… While this certainly has made a comeback in the last couple of years (thanks to rise of fucking Nazi shits all over the world), there has been a positive development.

    I actually believe it has more to do with the ever increasing “efficiency” at work and addictive media (YouTube, social media, Netflix, etc.). People just don’t have time for sex anymore, because there are quicker ways to get your dopamine fixed. This is also why people don’t go out and socialize anymore. Social media is actually very antisocial.

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  • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a huge turn off to be with someone who thing you are lower than them. Who thinks you don’t deserve basic human rights.

    While I don’t disagree with this theory, I wonder why you would think that this is a recent development.

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The awareness is relatively recent. “The woman place is in the kitchen” is not an old thing.

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can I also add in stress and other environmental factors?

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Spousal Rape Laws started getting enforced finally.

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  • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    An ex once who told me that she had a rape fetish, was totally into it. I was against it but since she was longing for it so badly I told her “I‘ll do it during week 18 but I won’t tell you when” and she was excited.

    Long story short: she enjoyed it while it lasted but cried afterwards because I was too harsh.

    Years later I ran into her husband and it turned out that she has BPD.

    I am very lucky to have had a written contract back then.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think generally you’d want to start smaller when trying any CNC stuff. But hey, a lot of kinks exist only in our minds but aren’t something people want to try, and sometimes we find out the hard way. I hope you two have each other the aftercare needed to move past that.

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So we’re gonna see it go back up?

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• deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I find computers endlessly fascinating and they are easier to understand than social interactions. If you took away easier forms of entertainment I would be seeking harder forms of entertainment. Probably also starting a revolution.

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  • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you think we will ever get to the point of “virtual sex” when you can experience something better than the real thing?

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    • deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe, with genetic modification. I think sex has the knobs maxed out for our current chemistry.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What would be your first few steps in starting the revolution?

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    • deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Organizing. Building community.

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• callouscomic@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  1. People are more willing to be honest now.
  2. How much of that sex in the past had the same amount of consent?

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  • AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It says 1990 not 1900!

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You think 1990 where a time of full consent and awareness about other sensitivities? Oh boy.

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• Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Do you count more if you have sex 3 to 4 times a week?

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• glorkon@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well, I had my 18th birthday in 1994 and I put everyone off since then.

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• veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh damn, this won’t be good for the stick market

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• lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have a really high sex drive and I’ve never been in a relationship where I consistently got it often enough to be satisfied so I stopped trying. It also doesn’t help that my living situation is not conducive to bringing people home with me.

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Monogamist problems.

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  • Ibaudia@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve also never been in a relationship that totally satisfied my sex drive, so I feel this a lot. My fiance used to be very sexual like me, but then she went on antidepressants and that was kinda killed. Now, she’s off then again, but her sex drive never rebounded, even though she thinks I’m more attractive now that I’ve been working out and gained muscle. Just sad to be jerking off in the office or bathroom every day instead of being intimate with someone you love because they don’t want to have sex with you 🫤

    I don’t blame her or anything, it just hurts my soul a bit. Her sex drive is so low now that I feel guilty and anxious even asking, because I know she’ll either reject it outright or just tolerate it if she really wants to make me happy that day, which kills it for me.

    I’d say we only really have sex where we’re both equally enjoying it maybe once every few weeks to once a month. If her drive were the same as mine, that would be once or twice a day. Just a shitty situation for me.

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    • TheProtagonist@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Although I feel sorry for you and your situation, I honestly wonder, how someone can jerk off in the office…

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    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t blame her or anything, it just hurts my soul a bit. Her sex drive is so low now that I feel guilty and anxious even asking, because I know she’ll either reject it outright or just tolerate it if she really wants to make me happy that day, which kills it for me.

      Yeah, I’m single now and intend to stay that way but I don’t blame my exes or hold it against women as a whole. It’s just a fact of life. It has bothered me enough to end relationships over it but it was just about the incompatibility not any malice towards them. I’d much rather just hang out as friends and not have that “is she going to be in the mood or not?” question running in my head the whole time or feeling shitty if I make a move and get shot down, or worry that they’re feeling like I’m trying to pressure them into something. It just creates a bad situation and stresses me out because it’s not like I can just turn it off. I’ve tried jacking off but my shit recovers too fast when I’m around a woman that I like for that to help.

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• YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Should I invest in sex now that it’s low?

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  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes. Put it all on options.

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    • drath@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ma short that shit to the ground

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  • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nah its going to rock bottom

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    • jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe that’s the problem. A lot of the ladies I know say that sort of thing is uncomfortable.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not if I have any say in the matter!

      …yeah, it’s going to rock bottom.

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• Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  healthline.com/…/antidepressant-sexual-side-effec…

  The best answer is how anti depressants which at least 20% of those in the USA take depresses the sex drive for both males and females.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No anti-depressants here. I’m depressed as shit. Ladies?

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  • daannii@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Women are avoiding men. For all sorts of reasons that I think most of you are aware of.

    Women also are feeling like they have the ability to refuse when before they didn’t.

    Women are also scared of pregnancy in a way they haven’t been since the fecking 1900s.

    Because now, you get pregnant. A doctor will let you die before they will provide medical care if that medical care has any chance of harming a fetus. Even if the fetus is dead.

    Women are dying from pregnancy. Women are no longer able to terminate an early pregnancy safely.

    Women are scared.

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    • nectar45@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah uhm…women would be the ones loosing here not men…

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      trend was before any new abortion bans. You probably cannot consider men avoiding women, but that is likely a larger overall factor.

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  • daannii@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s some b.s rfk was saying. That’s not the cause. Dysfunction is not the same as low sex drive. It can mean any number of things.

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  • BussyCat@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    11.4% take anti depressants and between 40-65% experience some degree of sexual dysfunction so even using the highest numbers and assuming that the sexual dysfunction completely eliminates interest in sex (it doesn’t) that would only be 7.41%

    www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db528.htm

    pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6007725/#%3A~%3A….

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  • turtlesareneat@discuss.online ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m also going to think the absinence-only education plays a role. I know people in their 20s today who didn’t understand: lube, protection, HIV, pregnancy. Some of them were HIV+ before they knew what happened. People are confused and uneducated. Thanks Christians!

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• joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not enough foreskin in America

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  • PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’d have to compare this graph to data from elsewhere in the world, though. Especially in the Western world.
    Also, the fact that sex is less fun for men when most of their genitals’ nerve endings have been cut off does not mean it’s being performed less.

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• WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Many animals breed less in captivity. Many do not breed at all. The less people feel a sense of control over their own lives, the weaker the desire to procreate becomes. Even if people use birth control, sex drive is still ultimately a reproductive urge. If you’re a farmer in the 19th century ? You have a great deal of freedom and independence. Mid 20th century American worker? Homes are cheap. Jobs are abundant. Labor rights are strong. You have lots of options on how to earn a living. You have a clear path to getting a home and raising a family on your own terms. Present-day 20 something? You don’t just have roommates in an apartment; you’re actually sharing bedrooms. Or you’re stuck living under your parents’ roof forever, your only hope of home ownership being them passing it on to you. All the jobs available to you don’t come close to providing any kind of independent living, let alone the wages to actually buy a home, start a family, etc. You’re just going to have to run on the wage slave treadmill til you die.

  The economy has developed to squeeze ever more out of workers and consumers. We’re psychologically manipulated at every turn. Every business feels like a scam trying to pull one over on you. You can’t even sign up for a gym membership without risking getting caught in dark business practices (their infamous cancellation policies.) People feel and are trapped in a system that they have little to no control over. Politicians only listen to the wealthy. Unions provided some voice to the voiceless for some time, but those have been gutted. People feel like cornered animals. They feel as though the entire system is just on elaborate exercise in thinly veiled slavery meant to extract every last once of the work product of your entire life from you. The wealthy pay you a pittance for your labor and then take all that pittance back in usurious rents. People feel trapped.

  Lots of animals refuse to reproduce in captivity. Lots of animals reduce their birth rates under captivity. Why should humans be any different? Why should we be any different than the mice of Universe 25?

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• daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So i’m part of the majority not having sex. Feels nice for once.

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• Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah, and those 37% are just porn, hookers and people trying to get pregnant. Right?

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• rothaine@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Microplastics in brains have hit critical mass

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• CarrierLost@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Humans have discovered we’re in captivity, and so we’ve stopped breeding.

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• vane@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Digital drugs AI, social media. People replaced sex with mobile phone dopamine hits. Misogyny and misandry in media. Lack of financial stability.

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