Still the best explanation of homeopathy out there on the internet.
when ur higher than sagan
Submitted 2 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
fckreddit@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I hate it how people are willing to trust any shady person in the name of alternative medicine. Sure, regular medicine has it’s flaws, but the solution is better research, not alt medicine peddled by the shadiest people imaginable.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They act as if the alternative practitioners are immune from corruption.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
the only valid alternative medicine is animal therapy, it’s fucking wild that we aren’t prescribing kitten baths (that is, laying on the floor and having 50 kittens poured out of a basket onto you) as step #2 for everyone who isn’t allergic.
like yeah it’s not gonna cure cancer (i mean who knows, imagine if it turns out it does lmao) but gods does it make it easier to bear with things
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Just like anything else, there are shady doctors, nurses, etc. and there are shady alternative medicine people. The only reason pharma aren’t using herbs and such is because they can’t patent them. It’s easier to make them consistent as well. I could give you a shit ton of articles on both sides of this discussion.
The MD’s aren’t even being trained to help people anymore. They’re being trained to survive med school and their student loans. Once they get experience, they’re trained how to deal with insurance companies.
Our healthcare is in a world of hurt so start looking inward first and fix that.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
‘Vibe-healing.’
We await AI homeopathy healers.
johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’m pretty sure I already was an article where a guy replaced his table salt with some other form of sodium because chat gpt suggested it. He ended up giving himself a disease that’s been mostly eradicated in the modern day.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A poisoning that’s rarely seen anymore but used to be more common. The heaps of data on bromism over the decades must not have made it into the training data.
IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Yup, he was eating sodium bromide instead of sodium chloride. Any significant amount of bromide is not good for ya.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
The irony is that for a good amount of less-serious health issues the placebo will work.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“You could totally use quantum crystals to heal your cancer, would you like me to get a list of effective crystals?”
Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Are you mad, what if they reverse their polarity in the vicinity of 5G signals??
hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Found RFK Jr’s account.
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
People pushing homeopathy should be forced to undergo mandatory reeducation.
Shit like this is what gulags were invented for.
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
hehe just joking though, Hexbears aren’t fascists we swear
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Because I am for stamping out deadly misinformation I am a fascist?
Have fun with your horse paste weirdo.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
pseudoscience basically, its more harmful to people than not.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Not homeopathy but I once saw a video where someone tried to use quantum physics to justify manifesting. Grifters gonna grift.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Meanwhile none of these people know what a probability field is, much less what the fuck makes a baryon anti-green.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And that it’s just a theory, trying to fit what we observe, just like fire, wind, earth, water and the ether back in the day, but arguably working better.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
fucking fossil fuel baryons
orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I highly recommend everyone to read up on Feynman, he is absolutely one of the genius that you can read about for modern times (well probably Hawking too). He gave me the urge to understand calculus and even if I never got there (I will probably try till I die because I wish I understood the world in a similar way), I so wish I could understand it 1/10 of he did. Also the biographies and other stories show how much he loves what he did, if we only could have many more with such interest in science. Mean maybe we do I don’t read science journals but his drive I think shows a lot.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Anyone who wins a Nobel in physics by watching people in a cafeteria is worth llistneing to.
There are some interviews in YT with him. I like the one where he tells the interviewer if he wants to stump a physicists ask them how ice skates work.
000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
But be warned about othet people writing on “his behalf” though: m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwKpj2ISQAc&t=5438s&pp=2AG-…
tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Just casually dropping this
T156@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The supposed science behind homeopathy was already known, though. It was never a mystery.
It basically worked around the pseudoscientific principle that water remembered what used to be in it, so it you diluted out water concentrated with the thing you had, it would somehow “remember” what was in it, and when taken, would draw it from the body through done principle of magnetism, or something like that.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 weeks ago
Not only that, but that the compound you dilute, must be something that causes the symptoms you pretend to aliviate.
ftbd@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Assuming this effect existed, wouldn’t the memory of the water be polluted with all kind of things (as water is recycled all the time)? The specific water molecules you are ingesting probably spent considerable time (considering the age of the earth and all water on it) as saltwater. If longer exposure makes the memory stronger, you should be getting a lethal dose of salt quite easily
T156@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Assuming this effect existed, wouldn’t the memory of the water be polluted with all kind of things (as water is recycled all the time)?
Yes.
If longer exposure makes the memory stronger, you should be getting a lethal dose of salt quite easily
No, it would be the reverse. The water would magnetise to the salt, and draw it out of you, making you very dead.
s@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Also, maybe we should collectively stop invoking Feynman’s name? I’ve heard he wasn’t exactly a fine man
Still a scientist that can’t and shouldn’t be erased from history.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Most of the criticism comes from a chapter in “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!” where he does some things close to what we now call PUA shit. In other words, picking up women at a bar by acting like an asshole.
Feynman also called it off after a test because he didn’t want to treat women that way.
chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
quantum entanglement implies no such thing, stop reading garbage.
also what’s cancelling a man who died in the 80s going to accomplish for literally anyone? he was a historic scientist who made important contributions to his field. absolutely tell the truth about the kind of person the man was but “shut up about feynman bc feynman bad” is fucking brain dead take.
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah he was definitely an abusive piece of shit and there are far better people to cite.
iThinkImDumb@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
Oh wait piefed people can’t see this because the developer of the piefed fork hard coded it to block hexbear while still forcing us to see comments from their instances.
yeah fuck that. why do we stay federated with them if they blocked us? they’re just cynically manipulating how federation is supposed to work. if they cant see our replies why should we be subjected to their runny libshit? no offense or hate directed to s@piefed.world, their above comment is fine but i am sick of smug piefed libs and even chuds stinking up a thread and then seeing hexbear people take the time to write good explanatory replies and not knowing that the person they are responding to will never even see.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yeah know over the years I have gone from let the idiots be idiots when it comes to folks who believe pseudoscience, but I am now of the general opinion that it should be perfectly acceptable to throw them in front of a train.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Yeah know over the years I have gone from let the idiots be idiots
The problem is they take over the world, they end up in the positions of power etc. How to contain that, short of derision I’m not sure and even derision often doesnt work, some wear their stupidity as a badge of achievement!
It’s only because of their stupidity that they’re able to be so sure of themselves.” - Franz Kafka
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Absolutely also doesn’t help that they can now communicate over the internet, which means every person who has the potential to be the village idiot almost inevitably becomes one.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
They should be fine anyhow if homeopathy really works. They just need to take a little train material, serially dilute it to 10⁻²⁰ strength, then take it with sugar pills. Train immunity!
ganryuu@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Are you telling me that I should have diluted some bullet material, instead of trying to start by shooting myself with a small caliber and work up my immunity from that? All this work, wasted!
hansolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
“You are simultaneously healthy and dying of cancer. We just need only observe you when you’re healthy.”
Hestia@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
as you can see, the patient is currently existing in a quantum state that is neither living nor dead
bedouin@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Do you understand how your car works, every single aspect? No? Do you know how to use your car?
Those are separate things. Yes, there’s overlap but you say because you don’t understand how it works, doesn’t mean you don’t know how to use it.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hugh Everett understood quantum mechanics.
bunchberry@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
yeah yeah I’m sure quantum mechanics makes us all immortal if that makes you feel better 🤣
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t want everyone to be immortal. I want to be the only immortal and watch you all perish.
ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Spouse comes from a family believing in this shit. They have a go to doctor for regular health issues (that one seems to be okay) and one for the bad issues (that’s the fraud).
I’m sick for > 5 years now so I’m at the stage where I try everything if it doesn’t seem to kill me so about 3 years ago I went to see him.
It was wild (quantum physics are easy to use and he heals his grandchildren in Africa regularly, pendulums and quartz stones were used, he shoved me around a few times, …) and in the end he explained that I’m suffering from worms that can’t be detected with school medicine tests. How treatment was as follows:
The whole session was expensive as fuck and I had some very long talks with my spouse about this afterwards. He stopped giving money to this guy now, after the fraud doctor started to call him and say he saw that my spouse is becoming sick (fraud dr has a drop of spouse’s blood and claims it changes when spouse becomes sick) and that he needs to start his remote therapy…
If you can speak German or are willing to translate: behold fraud dr website
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I saw the term “bio resonance” and immediately knew that this ostensible medical practitioner couldn’t get in touch with reality if they used a special reality-seeking pole constructed from a thousand dousing rods.
I used to work adjacent to the medical field, close enough to have to deal with a certain kind of medical practitioner a lot. For some reason, that part of medicine attracts people who believe in the supernatural so I’m familiar with bullshit from anthroposophy to quantum healing.
That shit gets real wild real fast. Bio resonance is already terrible (it’s basically the same kind of bullshit Scientology’s “E-meters” pretend to do but now as a “therapeutic” device with thirty buttons). But the worst must be quantum healing.
In quantum healing, actually seeing the patient in person is not necessary. Neither is knowing a lot about the patient. In fact, the less the practitioner knows, the better. Just give them a picture and a really vague description of the symptoms and the person (or pet; it “works” for those, to), and the practitioner will do something at some point in the future that will have some positive effect on either the person or the universe as a whole, even if it’s not obvious. Source: Trust me, bro.
And they charge real money for that shit. Real medical practitioners who went to real university and have a real degree in human medicine.
Absolutely incredible.
cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What’s even wilder is, that at some point I had the “pleasure” to meet someone who was a self proclaimed “expert on radioactivity”. This man walked around with a stick waving it around and then measuring radioactivity in percent. He then proceeded to bury a bowl in the field to trap all sorts of radiation in there and cleanse all radioactivity from the nearby area in it. It was god damn awful to see my parents paying actual money for this man.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The no alcohol and caffeine could actually help. It’s worth a shot at least if you still have ongoing issues. Not that this hack deduced anything accurately, but that probably does help a lot of people, and then he gets to take credit for it. It’s cheaper than free to try, though you’ll probably have some headaches for a few days if you have a bad caffeine dependence, like almost all of our society has.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Generally if you’re talking to someone with a chronic illness, and you think you have an idea of something that might help: A, it won’t, and 2, they’ve already tried it or C, they physically can’t.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Avoid the headaches by titrating off the caffeine.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I thought my dad was crazy because he thought rubbing bus fingernails together would regrow his hair (he’s bald like Mr. Clean).
This is the truly wacky shit right here though.
ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Desperate people are so willing I guess that goes for some bald people too :/
I know a few people who got their hair transplanted to their heads and are very happy with it. JIC your father gets tired of rubbing his nails someday.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
wow and in Germany too. You would think a good level of nation-wide education would solve such problems. seems like not.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
German loves homeopathy actually
nightlily@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
“Best” part of this is that our public health insurance pays out for this nonsense. Some providers allow you to opt out but I don’t think the majority of Germans bother.
ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
The Nazis and (racial) pseudo science. Name a more iconic duo.
But even before that, health at least to a certain degree, has become a product. This is the breeding ground for these kind of people.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 weeks ago
It’s a problem here. Studied apothecaries are peddling that bullshit as medicine. Most health insurances even pay for that shit.
dfense@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wow, this doctor is definitely not suffering from low self esteem. What a hack. Hey, hope you will get better soon!
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
This reads like a plot for those whacky cartoon in the 90s.