…The sort of grill I will never buy.
What sort of grill needs a firmware update lol
Submitted 5 hours ago by Gork@sopuli.xyz to [deleted]
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tnarg42@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
altphoto@lemmy.today 25 minutes ago
Hold on, my dental implants are glitching.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
I like my home automation tech but it needs to serve a purpose. Just being connected to wifi is not a selling point for me. Lights that turn on in the morning when I need to wake up are great. A thermostat that can reduce energy usage when nobody is home is also great. But a grill….what the fuck does Internet access do to improve the grilling experience?
And if it requires the cloud to work, I don’t consider it a functional product.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 hour ago
we love Z-Wave, ZigBee and Tinkerers products with Wifi
unmagical@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
What are the chances they shipped it on Thanksgiving vs Thanksgiving being the first time in a while the user turned it on?
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I have a Traeger and saved $200 because it was the model without WiFi.
I made a delicious turkey breast on Independence Day
derg@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Jokes on you when they invent a new kind of meat your grill can’t cook
match@pawb.social 4 hours ago
raw shrimp on a grill staying completely uncooked next to grilled chicken and steak because you don’t have the DRM for SeaPak©️ shrimp (photorealistic, art station, comedy, vivid)
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It can do bread and the best tasting broccoli and Brussels sprouts you’ve ever had
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Are you live from your backyard where you’re smoking meats?
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Nah, I’ve got a Bluetooth thermometer so I can track it while I play video games
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I will never own a grill that has to connect to wifi. In fact, I actively avoid any appliance that adds unnecessary IOT functionality.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 4 hours ago
That was me until HomeAssistant and ESPHome
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
Oh shit, I didn’t know about ESPhome. There goes my free time!
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
At least with ESPHome and other local-only devices they only update when you actually tell them to update.
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 hour ago
We’re starting to add some IoT stuff (mostly sockets and leak sensors) but it had to wait until i’d built a beefier firewall and the HA server. 'Cos that shit is not leaving the house
riskable@programming.dev 2 hours ago
I know, right? Why send my BBQ data to the cloud when I can just cook with a handful of GPUs, locally? To start the grill you just ask the animated waifu to dance and sing a random, AI-generated song that matches your taste in music. Then the fans spin up and send scrumptious GPU heat into the grill, cooking up a delicious hallucination where you’re animated waifu sings, “That looks yummy! Yummy yummy yummy hai hai hai!”
cobysev@lemmy.world 50 minutes ago
I guarantee this update didn’t drop on Thanksgiving. Photo OP probably hasn’t turned it on since their last BBQ months ago and is just noticing - on Thanksgiving - that an update pushed a while ago that they now need to install to get started.
Pro tip: Start up your electronics a day or two in advance of events, so you can pre-patch anything that needs it.
Source: Former IT guy here, who had to ensure that updates ran at the most convenient times possible for thousands of users. “Patching Tuesday” is an unofficial but well recognized “holiday” for IT folks. It’s not first thing Monday morning, which could throw off the workflow for the week, but it also gives the max amount of time to resolve any issues that patching might cause, so we (hopefully) don’t have to work through the weekend.
Pay attention to when your stuff requires patches. A lot of the time, it’ll pop up on Tuesdays.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
pro tip
I get it. I hate it, but I get it.
another pro tip from someone else in IT: see that appliance with the digital screen? fuck it. don’t get it. get the old shitty one that’s $800 less that doesn’t have WiFi or non-tactile buttons. you know what doesn’t need firmware updates? a charcoal Weber grill.
davidagain@lemmy.world 52 minutes ago
The same kind of grill that can be bricked remotely if you stop paying for software updates.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Imagine a grill without the latest firewall
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It’s a smoker with wireless controls
Instead of having to keep checking on it for several hours, an app on your phone will show the temperature and allow temperature adjustments online
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
ok but why aren’t you outside with a beer…pretty sure that’s a part of the meat smokers law
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Some people also think the point of fishing is to catch fish and not to chill out by the bay with some light beers.
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Funny enough that’s what I’m doing now, then my cousin leans over with his phone to show me his brisket is sitting right at 225
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Because I live in Texas and being outside in the summer for extended periods is dangerous.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Not for a brisket though. I’m too old to stay up that long.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
I mean that’s what I do when it’s something small, but when it’s something that takes 10+ hours, that’s a lot of beer and standing.
Though right now I just have an alarm to check it every half hour. Considering wiring up something with an arduino and appifying my meat without any proprietary tech.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
You can also just get a normal smoker and a wireless thermometer that works with RF, which has a range of like 700-1000ft, and while it has some theoretical security flaws it results in a situation that is infinitely more secure than a WiFi/app situation. Even if someone bothered to sniff the rf traffic what are they going to do, see the temperature of your brisket? Oh no
adubya@feddit.online 4 hours ago
Just waiting for the day an evil hacker leaks someone's smoker data to the neighborhood, exposing they cranked the smoker to 375° when they bragged about their brisket cooking 225° the whole time.
habitualTartare@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The perfect brisket heist.
rockstarmode@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
You make some good points.
I live a mile and a half from the ocean and run my smoker for long periods. It’s really nice to monitor and change the temp when I’m drinking the beer you refer to from the sand. I make a few quick runs back up the hill to tend to things, but mostly I’m free to be elsewhere for the 12-ish hours the smoker is running. It’s really nice, not a hard requirement, but really convenient.
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
BS. They update that expensive crap because it’s full of security holes.
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
OK, that seems smart. But why would it need updates? Been in IT 30-years, I get updates, but something that simple should have been hammered out before it left the factory.
vivi@slrpnk.net 4 hours ago
It’s because of the reliance on hundreds of thousands of third party web dependencies that are constantly updating and constantly getting security patches (and introducing vulnerabilities)
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
For that and fear the company getting bored and pulling the plug on servers, leaving me with a paperweight, is why I didn’t get much into the IoT stuff.
One time I bought some under armor shoes with bluetooth. They would connect to my phone and an app would take measurements on my stride and angle of my foot in my runs. At some point they decided to make the app a subscription. They wanted a whole $15/mo! I decided to just run like a caveman instead.
adubya@feddit.online 4 hours ago
Knew someone who had to rush a family pet to emergency vet and they were able to keep an eye on the brisket cooking.
Keep it Low & Slow!
quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 2 hours ago
semi related
Hacking My Smart Grill - Intercepting SSL to AWS Services via Firmware Modification ~> www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tH6VU6chEc
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 hours ago
Ah hell yes. Fire 2.0 finally dropped.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
You would think after ditching a bunch of rich fuckers on an island they wouldn’t get another chance to try that again.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 hour ago
This is just Fire. There will be no festivities. Just burning.
RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Funny, they actually call the wireless features WiFire.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Man, FireWire was such a cool name for an interface.
sundray@lemmus.org 5 hours ago
“Le Firmware? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?”
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
Idk I just simply wouldn’t buy the wifi grill
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Remember to update your grill and turn it off before Thanksgiving!
androidul@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
quick, hit the manual override before it’s too late 🖲️
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
I wonder how long it takes for the firmware update to take place. A few minutes? An hour?
I recognize the community I’m in rn. Just curious about how long it actually takes. I doubt it takes very long, or happens very often.
In a similar vein was the location of the charging port on the Apple mouse. Sure it seems asinine, but you only charge it like once a month, so it really isn’t an actual issue. It was just an excuse to hate on Apple products.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 4 hours ago
They could have made it possible for the user to choose when to update, for example after using it. Apple could have just stuck the oirt in front and let people charge while using the mouse. Both have no downsides
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 hour ago
I’m not disagreeing, just pointing out that it is likely not as big of an issue as people make it.
brian@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
In regards to your apple mouse example, surely it’s relevant to know how long the charging process is. The hangups I would have are when the interruption happens, how quickly is it resolved, similar to your points about the firmware on the grill.
If it takes 30 seconds to recharge to a point of usability, fine, no real harm. But if it takes 10-20 minutes to get to a usable state, then we have an issue.
A related scenario is if the Nintendo switch drains completely of battery; even plugging it into a dock and trying to play docked, you still have to wait upwards of 20 minutes to give it enough juice to boot back up.
otacon239@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Having used these mice, you can get through the day with like a 2-minute charge, then leave it overnight to cover the next few months.
SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
A quick search suggests that a 2 minute charge will provide a few hours of use, while it takes about 2 hours to charge it fully. Whether that is acceptable or not is up to the user, of course. But to me that seems pretty reasonable. Though none of this really matters for me, as I don’t use mice.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Not to defend this practice but my guess is that the firmware was released before Thanksgiving, but the owner didn’t turn on the grill until Thanksgiving, which is when the grill picked up the firmware.
Guy is still an idiot for buying a device that REQUIRES Internet access.
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captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 minutes ago
A grill should run on charcoal. It needs to get very hot and that’s literally it.
There’s a universe where I attach some electronic controller with a PID loop or something to a smoker, to maintain consistent temperatures via damper control. I’m not buying that off the shelf built into the machine though.