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What sort of grill needs a firmware update lol

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Gork@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    A grill should run on charcoal. It needs to get very hot and that’s literally it.

    There’s a universe where I attach some electronic controller with a PID loop or something to a smoker, to maintain consistent temperatures via damper control. I’m not buying that off the shelf built into the machine though.

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  • tnarg42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    …The sort of grill I will never buy.

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  • altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨25⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Hold on, my dental implants are glitching.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I like my home automation tech but it needs to serve a purpose. Just being connected to wifi is not a selling point for me. Lights that turn on in the morning when I need to wake up are great. A thermostat that can reduce energy usage when nobody is home is also great. But a grill….what the fuck does Internet access do to improve the grilling experience?

    And if it requires the cloud to work, I don’t consider it a functional product.

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    • Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      we love Z-Wave, ZigBee and Tinkerers products with Wifi

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  • unmagical@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What are the chances they shipped it on Thanksgiving vs Thanksgiving being the first time in a while the user turned it on?

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This, but why does it need a firmware update and why couldn’t it be setup to update on shutdown rather then power on?

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  • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have a Traeger and saved $200 because it was the model without WiFi.

    I made a delicious turkey breast on Independence Day

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    • derg@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Jokes on you when they invent a new kind of meat your grill can’t cook

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      • match@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        raw shrimp on a grill staying completely uncooked next to grilled chicken and steak because you don’t have the DRM for SeaPak©️ shrimp (photorealistic, art station, comedy, vivid)

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      • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It can do bread and the best tasting broccoli and Brussels sprouts you’ve ever had

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    • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Are you live from your backyard where you’re smoking meats?

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      • Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Nah, I’ve got a Bluetooth thermometer so I can track it while I play video games

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  • N0t_5ure@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I will never own a grill that has to connect to wifi. In fact, I actively avoid any appliance that adds unnecessary IOT functionality.

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That was me until HomeAssistant and ESPHome

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      • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh shit, I didn’t know about ESPhome. There goes my free time!

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      • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        At least with ESPHome and other local-only devices they only update when you actually tell them to update.

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    • Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      We’re starting to add some IoT stuff (mostly sockets and leak sensors) but it had to wait until i’d built a beefier firewall and the HA server. 'Cos that shit is not leaving the house

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    • riskable@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I know, right? Why send my BBQ data to the cloud when I can just cook with a handful of GPUs, locally? To start the grill you just ask the animated waifu to dance and sing a random, AI-generated song that matches your taste in music. Then the fans spin up and send scrumptious GPU heat into the grill, cooking up a delicious hallucination where you’re animated waifu sings, “That looks yummy! Yummy yummy yummy hai hai hai!”

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  • cobysev@lemmy.world ⁨50⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I guarantee this update didn’t drop on Thanksgiving. Photo OP probably hasn’t turned it on since their last BBQ months ago and is just noticing - on Thanksgiving - that an update pushed a while ago that they now need to install to get started.

    Pro tip: Start up your electronics a day or two in advance of events, so you can pre-patch anything that needs it.

    Source: Former IT guy here, who had to ensure that updates ran at the most convenient times possible for thousands of users. “Patching Tuesday” is an unofficial but well recognized “holiday” for IT folks. It’s not first thing Monday morning, which could throw off the workflow for the week, but it also gives the max amount of time to resolve any issues that patching might cause, so we (hopefully) don’t have to work through the weekend.

    Pay attention to when your stuff requires patches. A lot of the time, it’ll pop up on Tuesdays.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨46⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      pro tip

      I get it. I hate it, but I get it.

      another pro tip from someone else in IT: see that appliance with the digital screen? fuck it. don’t get it. get the old shitty one that’s $800 less that doesn’t have WiFi or non-tactile buttons. you know what doesn’t need firmware updates? a charcoal Weber grill.

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  • davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    The same kind of grill that can be bricked remotely if you stop paying for software updates.

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  • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Imagine a grill without the latest firewall

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  • HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a smoker with wireless controls

    Instead of having to keep checking on it for several hours, an app on your phone will show the temperature and allow temperature adjustments online

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    • Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ok but why aren’t you outside with a beer…pretty sure that’s a part of the meat smokers law

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Some people also think the point of fishing is to catch fish and not to chill out by the bay with some light beers.

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      • HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Funny enough that’s what I’m doing now, then my cousin leans over with his phone to show me his brisket is sitting right at 225

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      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because I live in Texas and being outside in the summer for extended periods is dangerous.

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      • humorlessrepost@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not for a brisket though. I’m too old to stay up that long.

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      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean that’s what I do when it’s something small, but when it’s something that takes 10+ hours, that’s a lot of beer and standing.

        Though right now I just have an alarm to check it every half hour. Considering wiring up something with an arduino and appifying my meat without any proprietary tech.

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    • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can also just get a normal smoker and a wireless thermometer that works with RF, which has a range of like 700-1000ft, and while it has some theoretical security flaws it results in a situation that is infinitely more secure than a WiFi/app situation. Even if someone bothered to sniff the rf traffic what are they going to do, see the temperature of your brisket? Oh no

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      • adubya@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Just waiting for the day an evil hacker leaks someone's smoker data to the neighborhood, exposing they cranked the smoker to 375° when they bragged about their brisket cooking 225° the whole time.

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      • habitualTartare@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The perfect brisket heist.

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      • rockstarmode@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You make some good points.

        I live a mile and a half from the ocean and run my smoker for long periods. It’s really nice to monitor and change the temp when I’m drinking the beer you refer to from the sand. I make a few quick runs back up the hill to tend to things, but mostly I’m free to be elsewhere for the 12-ish hours the smoker is running. It’s really nice, not a hard requirement, but really convenient.

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    • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      BS. They update that expensive crap because it’s full of security holes.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      OK, that seems smart. But why would it need updates? Been in IT 30-years, I get updates, but something that simple should have been hammered out before it left the factory.

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      • vivi@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s because of the reliance on hundreds of thousands of third party web dependencies that are constantly updating and constantly getting security patches (and introducing vulnerabilities)

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        For that and fear the company getting bored and pulling the plug on servers, leaving me with a paperweight, is why I didn’t get much into the IoT stuff.

        One time I bought some under armor shoes with bluetooth. They would connect to my phone and an app would take measurements on my stride and angle of my foot in my runs. At some point they decided to make the app a subscription. They wanted a whole $15/mo! I decided to just run like a caveman instead.

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    • adubya@feddit.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Knew someone who had to rush a family pet to emergency vet and they were able to keep an eye on the brisket cooking.

      Keep it Low & Slow!

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  • quoll@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    semi related

    Hacking My Smart Grill - Intercepting SSL to AWS Services via Firmware Modification ~> www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tH6VU6chEc

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ah hell yes. Fire 2.0 finally dropped.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      You would think after ditching a bunch of rich fuckers on an island they wouldn’t get another chance to try that again.

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        This is just Fire. There will be no festivities. Just burning.

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    • RobMyBot@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Funny, they actually call the wireless features WiFire.

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      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Man, FireWire was such a cool name for an interface.

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Le Firmware? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?”

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  • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Idk I just simply wouldn’t buy the wifi grill

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  • HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Remember to update your grill and turn it off before Thanksgiving!

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  • androidul@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    quick, hit the manual override before it’s too late 🖲️

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  • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wonder how long it takes for the firmware update to take place. A few minutes? An hour?

    I recognize the community I’m in rn. Just curious about how long it actually takes. I doubt it takes very long, or happens very often.

    In a similar vein was the location of the charging port on the Apple mouse. Sure it seems asinine, but you only charge it like once a month, so it really isn’t an actual issue. It was just an excuse to hate on Apple products.

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They could have made it possible for the user to choose when to update, for example after using it. Apple could have just stuck the oirt in front and let people charge while using the mouse. Both have no downsides

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      • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I’m not disagreeing, just pointing out that it is likely not as big of an issue as people make it.

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    • brian@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In regards to your apple mouse example, surely it’s relevant to know how long the charging process is. The hangups I would have are when the interruption happens, how quickly is it resolved, similar to your points about the firmware on the grill.

      If it takes 30 seconds to recharge to a point of usability, fine, no real harm. But if it takes 10-20 minutes to get to a usable state, then we have an issue.

      A related scenario is if the Nintendo switch drains completely of battery; even plugging it into a dock and trying to play docked, you still have to wait upwards of 20 minutes to give it enough juice to boot back up.

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      • otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Having used these mice, you can get through the day with like a 2-minute charge, then leave it overnight to cover the next few months.

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      • SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A quick search suggests that a 2 minute charge will provide a few hours of use, while it takes about 2 hours to charge it fully. Whether that is acceptable or not is up to the user, of course. But to me that seems pretty reasonable. Though none of this really matters for me, as I don’t use mice.

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  • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not to defend this practice but my guess is that the firmware was released before Thanksgiving, but the owner didn’t turn on the grill until Thanksgiving, which is when the grill picked up the firmware.

    Guy is still an idiot for buying a device that REQUIRES Internet access.

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    Yup, it’s exactly what it sounds like.

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    • 🕯️ Light a candle,

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    • ✨ Wish you good fortune, clear thinking, abundance, or whatever intention you DM me.

    I’ve been doing this quietly for a while now, and honestly… it feels good. So I figured I’d open it to the community.

    I’m not promising riches or miracles — just good vibes and spiritual effort. Think of it as spiritual proof-of-work.

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    (DM me if you want a specific intention added to the prayer)

    Whether you send or not, I hope you succeed in what matters to you. Be well.

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