Absolute fucking clown. He’s just scared of open sourcing old games because everyone will see how shitty his code is…
Thank you, Thor!
Submitted 3 weeks ago by Fanfic_Galore@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
That’s completely misguided, because people can see his code anyway (in his streams), and also because he will never finish or release his game
fartsparkles@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Probably little incentive to do so given how much money they’re making from Twitch, YouTube, etc.
null@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
But that’s not even what Stop Killing Games is about…
maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s one possible solution for one of the problems under the same umbrella. If you can’t or don’t want to run the servers for your online game (eg: Echo VR), just open source the server’s code and let the community keep the game running.
lobut@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I mean, he’s said before that shitty code doesn’t make for a good or bad game. He gave examples of lots of successful games that have “bad” code and that it doesn’t matter and people should just make games.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Not sure if it’s still the case, but the code of balatro was a single giant file with if cases for every card
Bad code can make great games. But it will also make them very hard to maintain
krimson@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I watch this dude sometimes, he says he’s a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.
Would be nice if he at least admits he’s a streamer and not a game dev.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.
Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?
JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
The job he got through nepotism?
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
He worked at Blizzard in the same way that Apple store employees work for Apple. They do, but not in the capacity that’s been implied.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
I remember seeing gameplay of Heartbound in like 2017? maybe earlier. it’s still not finished?
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Sounds an awful lot like what YandereDev did when he was still relevant.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No joke, YandereDev has been making more progress than Thor on Hartbound.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?
underscores@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
“game dev” is a way to put it
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
He’s been working on that game for almost a decade now, too.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because his misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.
When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signature in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.
What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.
electric@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.
From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).
*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Multiple videos.
He made multiple videos.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.
I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m glad that someone I’ve personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.
Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.
Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.
This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.
I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.
tempest@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Any male dominated channel that ever “gives advice” gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.
I like stand up comedy and it’s a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.
jownz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Omg… this comment… this comment right here 👆. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! But my god, I’m so happy for him.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I'm not relaxing unil it's 1.5 million.
toynbee@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In Ross’s video, iirc, he said 110% was good, 120% was pretty safe, and 140% was very safe.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
200% it shall be!
sleepmode@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I wish he’d stop getting any kind of attention at all. He is a fraud.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
That attention is the dying embers of the torch he took to his career
mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dude had entirely disappeared from my timelines before every youtuber and lemmy poster seemingly felt the need to tell me about how naughty he is.
danekrae@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Who is she?
StoneyDcrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.
Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.
The latest one is his take on the “stop killing games” initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the “villain” of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.
This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain.
MolochAlter@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate
It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.
dumbass@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
tja@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Misgendering people is not funny.
Default_Defect@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
No, you don’t understand, misgendering is fine when its someone you don’t like, just like how body shaming is great when its a man.
/s
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You did not get the 30 Rock quote I see.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
How about let’s all not talk or make angry memes about the guy. Ross requested that he not be harassed. Something about not wanting negative energy.
mriswith@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One of the big reasons many people are “okay” with making fun of him. Is that he could basically make it all go away if he just admitted he was wrong.
The whole thing stems from him being so full of himself that he cannot admit any fault, ever. He has been objectively proven wrong many times on several different topics, there are a lot of situations that heavily indicate misconduct, etc. And he literally went on a stream with a licensed psychiatrist who tried to explain some of his faults. To which he laughed and said “Okay, don’t see it that way, but alright”.
waggz@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
If you’re not familiar with it, check out his classic wow hardcore drama. He’s absolutely incapable of admitting any fault. And he and his mods just ban anyone immediately if they try to have a discussion.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not gonna go out of my way to review bomb his game or send him messages or at him on twitter. But I am not gonna stop calling him a narcisistic idiot whenever the topic comes up. People should know. That is not harassment, that is countering misinformation, at least IMO. A meme like this is not harassment in my book either.
TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I doubt he’ll ever use Lemmy to be honest, but I get what you mean.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Since what happens on Lemmy stays on Lemmy, I guess it must be fine.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It’s not about Ross, it’s about sending a message.
bilb@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Ross is not my dad
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
yeah but he’s a daddy tho 😘
JustTheWind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.
Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the “Stop Killing Games” movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.
Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I’m calling it now: Thor is going to eventually say that this was his plan all along.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I can believe this, if he wasn’t such a narcissist or such a lying douche bag who always has to be right and has something to say about absolutely everything while having a story to go with it…
Then he would be a pretty cool guy…
Some of his advice isn’t actually bad though… I watched him for a bit but the more you watch him the more you see him for who he is…
JustTheWind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A 5-D Chess move truly beyond comprehension by the mortal mind.
DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I know it’s not going to happen, but I would love it if legislation could go as far as requiring companies to open-source their engines and servers after maybe a period of time, or on ending support for the game. It could be done ID-style where the company retains full rights of the content and trademarks, which would still require players to buy the game to legally play it.
I’m aware there are a lot of cases where games include middleware that’s licensed from 3rd parties that complicate preservation efforts. But if open-sourcing the code is the path taken, there’s a simple solution for that: just release what you can, even if what’s released is in an unplayable state without the middleware. It then becomes the responsibility of any volunteers to take that code and bring it back to a usable state however they choose.
This drama highlights that there’s still a great need for better computer literacy. Anyone with even a basic education in how software, source-code, and software licensing works can tell PirateSoftware is full of shit pretty much immediately. That is, anyone educated who are themselves not grifters.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You should only be granted copyright protections if you can guarantee the copyrighted material can become public domain after the time period ends. This would involve giving the government a copy of all source code and assets to preserve securely. This should be a flat policy for all copyrighted material, so 3rd party involvement wouldn’t complicate things.
DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That’s a pretty interesting idea. Unfortunately it depends on being somewhere where copyrights ever actually end.
Phegan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Now that Thor has helped us achieve our goal. Let us never speak of him again.
vodka@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Can’t wait for him to see this and claim it was his plan the entire time
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Guys a fucking loser. Needs to get a real job.
SandmanXC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m not proud of it but I really enjoyed the mass dunking on this guy.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
I feel like a tourist on a safari trip with this whole saga. A colleague of mine told me about this situation and now I can’t look away.
When all is said and done, I definitely think it would be a good idea to have game libraries both physical and digital where people can play old games as they stop being profitable to developers.
I have vague memory of there already being such consumer made game libraries for old Gameboy titles back in the 2000s but those sites were taken down. It would be great to have some sort of system in place because this licensing bullshit is exactly why I ended up completely leaving streaming as a whole (for movies and shows) and went back to physical media in january/February of this year. I borrow dvds at the library now. It is fucking fantastic. I had forgotten how much I missed going looking for movies I’d like to see in places like Moby Disc and Blockbuster. It’s so comfy and when you find a movie you’ve never heard of before and you bring it home and it’s really good, it just feels so special.
I think games should have that too. I stopped playing games in 2015 because I just saw no end to having to fork out money all the time to keep up with the tech and getting new titles and gradually seeing how it was more and more an online thing instead of a physical thing so I just stopped. Didn’t like the direction games were taking. Seems like it is reaching a breaking point finally.
Libraries are so important for culture.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I hate having to hear his obnoxious voice because my sister watches him all the fuckin’ time.
Iambus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To think I actually liked this guy, what an egotistical asshole he really is.
MITM0@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am happy that it’s a Peripeteia developer saying this. The game is a mess (because it’s Early access) & needs a looooot if optimization, but boy it’s something else.
Gives me Ghost in the Shell vibes
hector@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I don’t know what happened in details but I really don’t hate him, as a member of the video game industry he has the right to make his voice heard.
I’m still glad consumers won here :)
SunshineJogger@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?
Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Credit where credit’s due
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve never liked the guy, he’s always seemed so full of himself like he thinks he’s smarter than everyone and can never be wrong.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
What u attempt to accomplish? Maintaining games also takes time and effort and server costs and they likely kill them to save costs.
There is no way this petition is gonna do anything
2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Is this a real screenshot of him crying about the initiative reaching 100%?
EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Can someone explain just what exactly he did?
I tend to avoid social media drama like the plague.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Imagine using a voice changer to sound deeper and cheating in Outer Wilds of all games
CaptSatelliteJack@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Every good story needs a villain
jonesy@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.
And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Definitely. Especially if you have large breasts.
shneancy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
he also cheats in single player puzzle games
of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he “solved” in “hours” took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It’s funny because it’s not like he’s speed running or anything, he could literally just tell chat he was cheating because the puzzle was too hard and nobody would care.
But he has to keep up his insufferable smarter than everyone image by “solving” puzzles fast.
Coolcoder360@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.
janonymous@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.
Newsteinleo@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
If you think he is an insufferable know it, you have not met enough insufferable know it alls. He is look warm obnoxious at best.
jonesy@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
*lukewarm.
Sorry, I’m not in this fight, but my inner grammar-nazi just couldn’t help herself.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Oh wow you know so much about this topic and everything else!
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I wrote him off as a prick after he practically had a narcissistic meltdown during a stream with a psychiatrist when he was told that he comes off as an arrogant pedant and needs to learn to admit when he’s wrong.