Submitted 1 day ago by AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/06/los-angeles-ice-protests-helicopter/
Cool…
This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.
Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
This first thing you should do when going protesting, is to leave your phone at home.
And cover up your face and any visible tattoos or any other identifying features
Put a rock in your shoe too. Gait identification can be shockingly accurate.
and cover your face if you are in a shithole country like USA, Turkey, Russia etc
USA … the world’s richest third world country.
Having a small faraday bag around is useful too, that’s what I do.
I wouldn’t trust a foil bag to do anything 100%.
the only 100% way to not be caught is not bring it.
it also provides an alibi. “see, my phone was here all day long.”
Not good enough. Phones can figure out its location using gyroscopes and accelerometer, then if at any point in the future, you remove it from the faraday cage, your entire movement logs are transmitted.
If you think you need a phone, it should be a burner.
That burner cant ever have connected to a cell tower when its near your house, otherwise its not longer a “burner”
Radios or mesh devices only
I bring my phone. I likely won’t be breaking any laws, and I can afford a lawyer. So yeah arrest me and waste the system’s time. Just another data point they have to sort
Lawyers operate in courts. We don’t have due process anymore.
Police issues a dispersal order, but blocks all routes to safely leave the area.
Congratulations, you will now be charged as having committed a crime and good luck proving in a court that there was no realistic option for you to leave.
Also police seizes your phone. Congratulations now they access your data and either go after people you have had contact with or they claim you to be part of a criminal organization as they pin other charges on people they found a connection with.
Follow Hong Kong tactics and use umbrellas to shield from above.
What’s wrong is that officers of the law are allowed to lie like that, yet still want to be respected.
Yeah, it’s frustrating. We need to end Qualified Immunity pronto.
In lying’s defense, they shouldn’t be respected when they say that regardless of its truthiness
Pigs are bottom feeding class traitors
Laser pointer
They’d come kill you for that.
they’re already on the verge of it, may as well hang for a sheep
Is it plausible this might cause the helicopter to crash somehow? I wouldn’t want to risk that.
No no, couldn’t have that, would be a shame
Shouting from a helicopter “Please disperse because we’ll come to your house and murder your families if you don’t” sounds like an actionable threat. And helicopters are difficult to fly on a good day. Would be a shame if someone up there had an accident.
Tangling hazards
sounds like a good reason to target any helicopters flying overhead with green lasers.
Someone I know is a military pilot. The green lasers were especially rough, because the light would get spread through the entire cockpit getting split up by the windshield, and even worse when he was flying with nightvision.
… do with this information what you will.
Federal offense and highly illegal. They take this extremely serious. Whatever target you were before, expect and multiple time increase in tracking doing this. They will make an example of you.
Source. Local police chases and FAA raids/reporting. Do not do this. You’d be better off finding another method.
you know what else is illegal?
I don’t give a flying fuck what they think is illegal anymore since none of them give a shit about the rule of law anymore.
Well there’s open source open hardware anti-air missiles.
Also it sounds innocuous and green laser diodes cost 2$ so if everyone has them they won’t be able to single out anyone.
Also when tghe copters are down, how are they going to track you? Drones, but that’s the real purpose of the laser CCDs fry much much easier than eyes.
The surveillance state will not stop by beingpolitely ask but by being physically dismantled. The alternative is perpetual subjugation, the end of history, as far as you are concerned you become as useful and helpless as any other farm animal once this power becomes consolidated.
Our democracy is fake because of first past the post, ranked choice is a red herring. Proportionnal representation or your children will live in work farms. Like every fight before, this is an existential crisis for your perpetual subjugation.
They chose to make the sky a weapon, take the sky away from them.
And now the DEA’s got a chopper in the air,
I wake up screamin’ like I’m back over there,
I learned a thing or two from Charlie, don’t you know?
You better stay away from Copperhead Road.
Think a drone could get up above it and drop something into the propeller?
Drop it on the tail prop so they start spinning and get hella dizza and throw up.
LOL
From the country meant to represent freedom. No more!
Never was
Wait wdym? Not even in the 18th-19th century?
America land of the free /s
omg I remember that show lmfao
Green lasers. Everybody should have one.
Check comment above. This is a terrible idea. You’ll go from 2 stars to 5.
They have sonic weapons. They run over people with horses and armored vehicles.
But they won’t have copters to track you down and green lasers take out CCDs like nothing else. If they wanted to fly they shouldn’t have weaponized the sky and flight.
Checking out women sunbathing in backyards or other places.
Talking a whole lot of shit for someone riding around in a machine that will find literally any excuse to break down. Helicopters are sketchy as fuck, and even if you manage to autorotate perfectly to try and recover from a stall, you’re still liable to suffer severe or fatal injuries. It’s super easy to crash due to human error or some kind of mechanical failure.
Then fucking come over assholes
One wonders just how viable the Ukranian strategy would be to take out LAPD choppers (when landed, of course).
Omfg, fucking this! We need to take that operational knowledge the Ukrainians have gained and use it to fight and kill these bastards. Ukrainians who are smart, can speak decent English, and are entrepreneurial in spirit should consider becoming consultants to smaller partisan organizations.
Sure, they can work with the Hong Kong protesters, Lamas, and Cuban patriots. Maybe some Free Syra Army guys can help too.
What about walkie talkies? Short wave radios? Older tech comms devices?
What about open source open hardware anti-air missiles?
Can you imagine 6 dudes with AR-15s, nothing fancy, responding that that threat? One wonders what might happen.
If gta has taught me anything is that one well placed shot from a measly handgun can take down a chopper
Even armored helicopters are very vulnerable, flying things cannot afford to be sturdy.
Flying oppressors beware, you live on borrowed time. Tail section, fuel tank, tangling hazards (steel wire spool, fast unspooling from above)
They made tge sky a weapon, take away the sky from everyone. Same with radios.
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Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
I’m an American, but my only experience with LA was traveling through for 2 days about 10 years ago. AKA no experience with LA.
This action appears to be originated from LAPD and therefore the local LA government. I have always considered LA to be deeply blue, and would therefore think that their local LA government would be Democrat, not Republican.
So should this not be the local blue voting populace having a word with their blue elected politicians?
The police are violent thugs everywhere, not just Republican cities and states.
It’s because they have almost complete immunity from being prosecuted for wrongdoing and also, well, they are incredibly well armed and often use their monopoly on violence to threaten blue politicians.
I grew up in a city where cops didn’t like their own chief of polcie because he wanted to drug test the force regularly after several got caught doing drugs on the job. The chiefs own force stalked him, harassed him, made violent threats against him and his family, until he was ran out of town. The police union sued him and said drug testing them violated their rights. The police union won in court. Those drug tests never happened.
That’s kinda what I’m getting at. This isn’t R vs D, and further perpetuating that is lending into the division of the country that the powers that be want.
This is class war, always has been. Police are the arm wielding power of the rich, used to push down the working class.
Police unions make unions look bad. Fucking thugs.
Bruh wow
LAPD is not under the control of any government. They have literal warring gang factions within the LAPD. It is an occupying force.
LAPD is notoriously corrupt and vile even among other police peers and has been for a long time. Its only competitor is the NYPD
LAPD is better than it used to be but it’s still full of assholes.
LASD has been worse and probably still is.
That’s in LA. It doesn’t count. They’re not people. /sarcasm
Conservatives are unironically like this. They cheer when we have earthquakes and fires.
As someone who lives in Hurricane Alley, have you tried just not living where earthquakes happen?
That seems to be the standard response of those in California when a hurricane hits my area…
Those Republicans should just think of a practical 2A air defense solution
though the actual audio sounds like they’re making a joke, they could very well have the plates and do that
This would likely be done through cell phone tracking devices like a stingray, not plates. I don’t know how many people are in their cars at a protest.
Let them prove it and out themselves
mriswith@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Threatened? So they didn’t ID them.