Let my Duolingo streak expire cos I don't want to give them any more AI training for free and this popped up 🙄

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• Swordinferno@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why leave the app installed if you’re done using it?

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  • CelloMike@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Knowing how prone they are to this kind of crap, I wanted to wait and see what it’d say when my streak ran out, I wasn’t disappointed

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    • Sneezydinosaur@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you use the duolingo widget you can watch duo drop down a depressive spiral until they eventually die alone in the desert. It’s my favorite part of the app.

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• aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Duolingo is a toxic ex.

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  • expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    never used Duolingo, but i think incan relate now, i had a toxic girlfriend that would talk to me in Portuguese, i don’t speak that language

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    • misterdoctor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      never used Duolingo

      i don’t speak that language

      I believe I may have a solution

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  • peregrin5@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds like they’re threatening to steal your dog or something.

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Come to think of it, an application threatening, shaming, and guilt tripping you into coming back might not be the healthiest thing ever.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The aggressive notifications to do a lesson are literally why I use it. I have ADHD. Without the owl threatening to kill me and everyone I know, I would forget about it and forget all that I’ve learned so far. 😔

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    • ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The gamification is genuinely so helpful. You can get it through other apps like habitica with some setup. I have ADHD too but I found Duolingo good for habit building but jot the greatest for actual language learning

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    • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah i uninstalled

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    • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It could be aggressively persistent without sounding like a psycho, too, no? I mean, I have no frame of reference, but I sort of assume that constant reminders would work as well as constant belittling reminders. Maybe I’m wrong.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    DuoLingo replicates all the same patterns as an abusive relationship.

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    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Image

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  • A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Kinda does wonders to develop habits when you have ADHD.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      that’s why i liked duolingo when it was a good leanguage learning helper app, it really did keep me thinking about my target langauge every day at least a little

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• Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Streaks” are shitty dark patterns IMO.

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  • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I liked it because it was a learning app and I have a tendency to fall off. But paying real money to restore my streak? Hell nah

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  • Owlboi@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    people calling every tactic to keep users more engaged a dark pattern these days is giving me teenagers using therapy speak in wrong ways vibes

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  • ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wish the whole streak paradigm was time weighted. Like I got over a 1 year streak on my Apple watch over Covid. That’s basically never going to happen again. I wish there was some kind of “this is your longest streak in the past <time period>” or something. It all just feels so all or nothing.

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    • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I believe you can get a users longest streak from the public API end point. IIRC it’s something like duolingo.com/users/{username} but it’s been a few years

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  • grandma@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah but at least the interests of the user and duolingo are somewhat aligned in this case

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• voodooattack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  2291 days streak

  Fuck. I dunno what to do with this

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  • RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think posting your high score might make people want to top you.

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    • DoubleSpace@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      UwU

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    • untorquer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s unfortunate they stopped subbing…

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    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But I am le tired

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  • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been using the free version with ad blockers (and browser only) for years. No annoying notifications, no ads, no tracking of user data via an app, and I simply press back on the occasional Super promotion page. The only thing I miss is the discussion page for every lesson/question.

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• 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  One notification like this and your app immediately gets notification permission revoked on my phone (if not uninstalled).

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  • Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have notifications disabled by default, by that I mean the moment an app requests permission I deny it, unless it’s a messaging app or something I trust etc., and if it triggers more than three requests its off my phone.

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  • Karjalan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I understand the logic of doing the streak system, keep you engaged by threatening to lose your streak if you don’t do it every day, but it’s a double edged sword.

    If I’d lost my streak though… I should just go “oh well” and call it a day/quit.

    I deleted the app when they said they were going to fire translators for AI. But I have adhd and forgot, several days, even with reminders, to do it some days… It never ended up mattering because they let me keep my streak anyway

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most users aren’t logical or sane like you, so this notification may actually catch their eye in their notification tray with 8k other notifications from cancer apps.

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• hark@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I stopped using duolingo a couple years ago because I noticed I was just doing the bare minimum to maintain my streak instead of actually learning something new.

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  • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    that actually helped me remember that my target language exists, it was good for me to at least have a brush with some learning on the days that i just didn’t feel like doing much.

    what was the final nail on the coffin for me was duolingo neutering the japanese course, they delayed introducing kanji so hard i was seeing the most basic basics like 母, 父, 語, even 何 in hiragana, which made the course deeply counterproductive as reading japanese in hiragana only, when you know the kanji already slows you down considerably. consider: ははははなをもっています vs 母は花を持っています, both mean “my mum has a flower” but one of them has a string of は you need to decipher the meaning of first before you can understand the sentence, the other’s meaning can be understood instantly

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    • hark@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s a shame. Duolingo was never great for learning kana, so I guess they thought to use it more in lessons, but they should’ve just improved the dedicated kana lessons instead. I had learned kana before using duolingo so it was a smooth transition to take on sentences introducing more and more kanji. It sucks that they’re just making things worse since there were some nice things about the app before.

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  • ledge@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same thing happened to me. Also when trying something new, failing took something like gems or hearts. That made it so I only grinded the very easy lessons to get the gems and never actually using them.

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    • hark@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh yeah, that’s another thing! They made it tedious to make progress, probably in an attempt to squeeze out more money, but I ended up just losing motivation for actually learning because it became a drag.

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  • quoll@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    if a non shit app would add an “import streak” feature (just make me upload a screenshot or type in the number) id switch in a heart beat.

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    • Holyginz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why is a streak so important?

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• andrej@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Soon you can switch to Lingonaut and take your duolingo streak with you: lingonaut.app

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  • Sporkbomber@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Define soon. Their progress per language is around 10%, with the highest completion percentage being Czech at 20%.

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    • ghen@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s no way it’ll have the language I’m learning any time soon lol. Duolingo is literally it besides traveling there and talking to locals

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  • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Interesting. Is it going to work offline?

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• flango@lemmy.eco.br ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Duolingo is not about learning a language. It’s about giving you the illusion of learning a language.

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  • Doom@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Look fuck the company but Duolingo absolutely can help learn a language

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  • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As long as I learn to ask where the bathroom is before I get there I’ll bet ok.

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• nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wife’s streak is at 1,618 days across multiple categories. Almost 4.5 years. I imagine it’s like smoking at this point.

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What is the actual point of a streak?

    A sense of pride and accomplishment?

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    • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      At one point it was gamification to tie the reward center of your brain into continuing to train using the app. Now it seems that it’s half that or half en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern to get you to pay to keep that reward system going.

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    • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      To make you addicted so you keep coming back

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    • percent@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Personally, my interest in language learning comes and goes. Doing the minimum to maintain a streak prevents me from forgetting too much before my interest returns.

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    • cooopsspace@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gamification including social aspects if you’re a regular app user.

      Abusive ex if you aren’t a regular user.

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    • voodooattack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sense of achievement mainly

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  • musubibreakfast@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does she actually speak the language she’s learning?

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    • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not even a little

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  • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Having heard very mixed things about Duolingo’s actual usefulness, does your wife speak or write well in any of the languages she’s used the app to learn?

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    • nexguy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not at all

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    • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My friend learn japanese and able to speak fluently after using the app. Though she does have japanese customer from time to time that she can test it with some of them.

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• Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Duolingo is so stupidly annoying these days. It has gotten so much worse compared to a few years ago.

  Constant bugging, too many popups that are almost as bad as Microsoft products. I want to learn a goddamn language not jump through a hundred hoops every single time.

  Not to mention that it all boils down to a guessing game. Some questions have multiple answers and unless you choose that specific one that DuoLingo had in mind it counts as wrong. It also won’t tell you why you guessed wrong.

  Are there better apps these days?

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  • SirQuack@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Duolingo isn’t in the business to teach you a a language, that would mean you won’t need the app anymore.

    I’ve used Babbel, it seems more to learn a language, but it requires a paid plan to use. It does work more like an actual language course though, with more emphasis on longer sessions instead of 5 min per day.

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• mean_bean279@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s a great video from WSJ with their exec team that talks about how those notifications are hugely beneficial both to their users, and to their revenue. Even if you pay for the full thing like I do you still get those notifications. They aren’t “desperate” they’re targeted specifically to get people to come back and keep learning. They also don’t care about showing you ads as much since their majority of money comes from paying users. If anything the ads are to just get you to pay for the app.

  youtu.be/9KqrnBiyBQ8

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• GongFuFlashSteep@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Anyone have a good Duolingo alternative?

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  • RadicalEagle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Quit your current life and move to a country where they speak the language you want to learn. Get a menial job in a small town, find new friends, and learn what love is. Then you’ll know what it truly means to speak a language.

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    • xxd@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the language equivalent of the “I have a small issue with this software.” - “Have you tried switching your OS to Linux?” conversation lol

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    • Banana@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anyone know how to afford moving costs?

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  • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Mango Languages is available for free through many libraries and has an app.

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  • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    At this point I’m thinking I’ll just take a trip to Tenerife to continue learning Spanish.

    Other apps aren’t good at gamification I hear - and that was the only thing that kept me using it till a while ago. I have ADHD. The leveling up, streaks, etc, is what kept me going when the novelty of learning yet another foreign language wore off - I already had to learn two in school and I only ever really use one of them, you can guess which one.

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  • Stillwater@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Busuu is a lot like Duolingo but you also get to trade corrections with real people learning your native language

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    • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes I love Busuu! I switched about a years ago and I feel like it’s actually been teaching me Dutch instead of just brute force vocabulary memorization.

      My only complaint is that it’s really aggressive about asking for you to subscribe. I just close the popups and I haven’t ran into anything that I cant do.

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  • Cossty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lingodeer for more languages Renshuu for Japanese

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• Etterra@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They’re pathetic but not in a way I like.

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• Nelots@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I remember a while back, I was too busy for a little while to use Duo and came back to the widget trying to guilt trip me into using it. Because I missed like half a week. It’s so toxic and honestly isn’t even that useful for learning. So I uninstalled that shit immediately.

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• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Same, it was sad but I’m not gonna use the all anymore due to that decision.

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• cathfish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Has anyone actually learned any language with duo lingo ?

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• Kekzkrieger@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why not uninstall it bro

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• Olhonestjim@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Exactly why I stopped so using it so quickly.

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• eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  6 lessons? ew.

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• starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why the fuck is it still installed

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• DogWater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What is duo doing that’s bad with AI?

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• Sho@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I had a streak in the triple digits, just un-installed it. I’ll be damned if I’m going to use that AI slop anymore.

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• Binturong@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Man I love to see that abusive Owl grovel. I also did this, good on you OP, may they see a consequence for threatening something good for the sake of greed. Eventually nothing is enough for the managers and they burn the whole thing down because of their personal addiction. This harms lives. We need to jail CEOs abusing power this way, that’s the actual remedy.

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• atlien51@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stfu duolingo

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