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  • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Had to look it up because I didnt beleive

    sure enough its correct

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree

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    • ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Something poetic and quaint about a link to a Wikipedia article titled “Tree”

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      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        reddit has broken me. I was expecting it to point to weed.

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    • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Scishow had an episode about it a week ago. It’s a strategy, not a species.

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Also cool that for a period of like 60 million years, nothing decomposed dead trees. As they would die or fall over, they’d just stay there, piling up. This is where most oil came from. The massive amounts of trees stacking up before bacteria and fungus evolved to decomposed them. Imagine 60 million years worth of trees just lying around.

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    • Dogyote@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Didn’t those trees become coal, not oil?

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      • DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I think near water they became oil and fat from water they became coal

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes. I made mention of this in a reply to someone else as well. I’m not sure if my teacher (like 30 years ago) told us wrong or if I simply remembered it wrong.

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    • turtlesareneat@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Mushrooms are the great undertaker, the great decomposer. The Langoliers. They are just waiting to eat you, and they’re happy to share their fruits in the meantime. They’re fattening you up. They can wait.

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      • voracread@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That Langoliers reference spotted in the wild!

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    • stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I imagine dead trees were flammable, even back then. And oxygen levels were 15% higher. Can you imagine the forest fires?

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      • Crassus@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Fire wasn’t invented back then

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    • Ileftreddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I thought that was coal

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    • ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I love this fact, and am curious where you learned it?

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I learned it nearly 30 years ago in school. I just did a search and found a link about it, though.

        Also, seems that either I remembered wrongly, or my teacher made a mistake, but it seems it was most of the worlds coal; not oil, that came from all the piles of trees from that period.

        thorogood.co.uk/treevolution-how-trees-came-first…

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  • Anomalocaris@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m a billion years, crabs will start turning into trees and trees into crabs. merging into the ubercreature

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    • khannie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m a billion years

      Damn. You look good for your age.

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      • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’d argue, but I agree. I don’t need to know how they look, if they’re a billion years and capable of communicating, whatever state they’re in looks good. Even if its a fungus posessed rot monster.

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    • PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “ubercreature” excuse me, lichen would like a word with you

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      • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        lichen is the shit

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    • Atlas_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I imagine it’ll look like paras

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      • multifariace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Paras is a fungus. Totally different thing.

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    • VernetheJules@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      you may not like it but Ms Crabtree is what peak performance looks like

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  • m_xy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    here’s a cool blog post that expands on this There’s no such thing as a tree (phylogenetically)

    i didn’t even put it in a folder, it’s just loose on my bookmark bar because it’s such an interesting post that i reread from time to time

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    • Thadden@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That was a very fun and interesting reading! Thanks for sharing

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    • bananabenana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe…but I doubt many of these phylogenies use DNA, and if so, likely only a single or few genes. Nowhere near enough resolution to accurately determine genetic relatedness. Woody plants may actually be more related than we think.

      These sorts of phylogenies tend to use morphological characteristics which is an unreliable measure of genetic relatedness.

      I will stand corrected if wrong though

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    • TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Very cool read, thank you

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  • hash@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So that’s why every stargate planet looks like Canada

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    • LeFantome@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That and every Stargate planet is Vancouver

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    • ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      🤣🤣🤣

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  • Deconceptualist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    My sister in law recently quipped that “Trees are a social construct” and at first I thought she was just being glib but now I can’t get that statement out of my head.

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    • resting_parrot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I listen to a podcast called Completely Arbortrary. They talk about a different tree species each episode. They say trees are a strategy, not a strict definition.

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      • SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Thanks! Just subscribed. See they have a couple Metasequoia episodes -a favorite of mine .

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  • DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Its called convergent evolution and you also have some shit you wouldnt believe that makes all apes similar to us.

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    • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Apes are so similar to us because we came from a common ancestor. I’d love to hear if there are traits we evolved independently after we split though.

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    • CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well humans are a type of great ape, sooooll

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      • 7bicycles@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m more of a middling ape myself honestly

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    • TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Hit me. I love evolutionary fun facts.

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      • sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        smackkk

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think palm trees are a kind of grass

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    • IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I didn’t know that and I agree

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    • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So is corn

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      • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And banana

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    • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m firmly in this camp.

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  • twice_hatch@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Unsurpassable power: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crabtree

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    • propter_hog@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Now we just need crabs to evolve a treecrab and we can have the two battle for the ultimate life form

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    • mrslt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The absolute peak of evolution.

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    • Slovene@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Good moaning!

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    • whotookkarl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Not to be confused with Dryococelus aka the “tree lobster”

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  • miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So crabapple trees…?

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Image

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      evolution intensifies

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  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Also, no such thing as fish.

    Google it.

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    • boydster@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Impossible. If there were no such thing as fish, how could bees be fish?

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      • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I don’t have the tools to know how to respond to this comment. You win.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Same for roots, btw, just earlier.

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  • OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And it’s not even one creature or even type of creature. Look up rhizobium.

    Tbf, as we learn more about our gut microbiomes, it turns out that humans are that way as well. Maybe that’s why we have the thoughts in our heads vs. the feelings in our guts… (no that’s actually not it at all, except… isn’t it though?).

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    • DoubleSpace@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I figure the feeling of being in your head is simply due to your eyeballs being located there. Now I want to put a 3d camera on my hips, and steam it to VR goggles.

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      • meyotch@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The hips do not lie. Ipso facto, you would be seeing ultimate truth.

        It turns out that the meaning of life is at crotch level.

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      • General_Effort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        People have experimented with that sort of thing. Here’s a DIY for going into 3rd person mode using a camera on a stick and some electronics in a backpack. Bit of googling also finds me body swap experiments, but nothing on a crotch perspective.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Microphones and headphones too.

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  • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There are fern trees, conifer trees, and flowering trees. Where are my moss trees?

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    theres also a definition of a what a tree in the sense , its develops wood, many things are tree like, but not trees: such as palms(just overgrown herbs), dracaena( aka cabbage tree, they have something dracenoid thickining.) extinct plants like giant lycophytes and ferns

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  • ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Its basically just the best way to be a large plant if you’re not gonna be a big parasitic ivy. Once your plant circulatory system gets complex enough to send stuff further away, you start getting big enough that you need hard tissues just to stop yourself from folding over.

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  • Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The future is gonna be tree with crabs…

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  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I wasn’t ready for how weird this comment section turned out to be…

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  • BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The genus Cornus is a huge middle finger to growth-form-based taxonomy. It contains dogwood trees and also bunchberry, an itty bitty herb that grows on the forest floor.

    The first “trees” were also lycopods whose closest extant relatives are the club mosses, a name which gives you an idea of how big they get.

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  • Hadriscus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Arborization !

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  • altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So if you look at a tiny blade of grass and a gigantic tree its like looking at a Chihuahua and a brachiosaurus. And there are smaller things and bigger things in the aminal kingdum!

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  • stebo02@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    tbf isn’t a tree just a plant but big? makes sense that any plant species can evolve into a tree just by getting bigger

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  • FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fish too

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  • Dogyote@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Trees are like every other plant, ONLY MORE SO

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  • IndiBrony@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Heh, branch

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  • tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Its trees and crabs all the way down.

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I thought crab-like animals were all actually pretty closely related to each other, i.e. all crab-like animals are arthropods, which is a less broad category than ‘all the plants that can form a wooden trunk’. Any taxonomists here to confirm/deny?

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  • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Concentrated sun energy sinks

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  • obvs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Or maybe the microorganisms and food sources that life forms are exposed to have more of an effect on how the macroorganisms evolve than is currently talked about, which would explain why so many things in similar environments evolve similar traits.

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  • Pnut@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    By the logic we are not humans…

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