Also cool that for a period of like 60 million years, nothing decomposed dead trees. As they would die or fall over, they’d just stay there, piling up. This is where most oil came from. The massive amounts of trees stacking up before bacteria and fungus evolved to decomposed them. Imagine 60 million years worth of trees just lying around.
On trees...
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ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Didn’t those trees become coal, not oil?
DancingBear@midwest.social 2 months ago
I think near water they became oil and fat from water they became coal
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Yes. I made mention of this in a reply to someone else as well. I’m not sure if my teacher (like 30 years ago) told us wrong or if I simply remembered it wrong.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 2 months ago
Mushrooms are the great undertaker, the great decomposer. The Langoliers. They are just waiting to eat you, and they’re happy to share their fruits in the meantime. They’re fattening you up. They can wait.
voracread@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That Langoliers reference spotted in the wild!
stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
I imagine dead trees were flammable, even back then. And oxygen levels were 15% higher. Can you imagine the forest fires?
Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I thought that was coal
ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I love this fact, and am curious where you learned it?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I learned it nearly 30 years ago in school. I just did a search and found a link about it, though.
Also, seems that either I remembered wrongly, or my teacher made a mistake, but it seems it was most of the worlds coal; not oil, that came from all the piles of trees from that period.
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m a billion years, crabs will start turning into trees and trees into crabs. merging into the ubercreature
khannie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m a billion years
Damn. You look good for your age.
Comment105@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’d argue, but I agree. I don’t need to know how they look, if they’re a billion years and capable of communicating, whatever state they’re in looks good. Even if its a fungus posessed rot monster.
PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“ubercreature” excuse me, lichen would like a word with you
Atlas_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I imagine it’ll look like paras
multifariace@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Paras is a fungus. Totally different thing.
VernetheJules@hexbear.net 2 months ago
you may not like it but Ms Crabtree is what peak performance looks like
m_xy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
here’s a cool blog post that expands on this There’s no such thing as a tree (phylogenetically)
i didn’t even put it in a folder, it’s just loose on my bookmark bar because it’s such an interesting post that i reread from time to time
Thadden@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That was a very fun and interesting reading! Thanks for sharing
bananabenana@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe…but I doubt many of these phylogenies use DNA, and if so, likely only a single or few genes. Nowhere near enough resolution to accurately determine genetic relatedness. Woody plants may actually be more related than we think.
These sorts of phylogenies tend to use morphological characteristics which is an unreliable measure of genetic relatedness.
I will stand corrected if wrong though
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Very cool read, thank you
hash@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
So that’s why every stargate planet looks like Canada
LeFantome@programming.dev 2 months ago
That and every Stargate planet is Vancouver
ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
🤣🤣🤣
Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 2 months ago
My sister in law recently quipped that “Trees are a social construct” and at first I thought she was just being glib but now I can’t get that statement out of my head.
resting_parrot@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I listen to a podcast called Completely Arbortrary. They talk about a different tree species each episode. They say trees are a strategy, not a strict definition.
SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Thanks! Just subscribed. See they have a couple Metasequoia episodes -a favorite of mine .
DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Its called convergent evolution and you also have some shit you wouldnt believe that makes all apes similar to us.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Apes are so similar to us because we came from a common ancestor. I’d love to hear if there are traits we evolved independently after we split though.
CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Well humans are a type of great ape, sooooll
7bicycles@hexbear.net 2 months ago
I’m more of a middling ape myself honestly
TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Hit me. I love evolutionary fun facts.
sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
smackkk
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think palm trees are a kind of grass
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I didn’t know that and I agree
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I’m firmly in this camp.
twice_hatch@midwest.social 2 months ago
Unsurpassable power: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crabtree
propter_hog@hexbear.net 2 months ago
Now we just need crabs to evolve a treecrab and we can have the two battle for the ultimate life form
mrslt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The absolute peak of evolution.
Slovene@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Good moaning!
whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not to be confused with Dryococelus aka the “tree lobster”
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
So crabapple trees…?
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 months ago
evolution intensifies
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also, no such thing as fish.
Google it.
boydster@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Impossible. If there were no such thing as fish, how could bees be fish?
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t have the tools to know how to respond to this comment. You win.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Same for roots, btw, just earlier.
OpenStars@discuss.online 2 months ago
And it’s not even one creature or even type of creature. Look up rhizobium.
Tbf, as we learn more about our gut microbiomes, it turns out that humans are that way as well. Maybe that’s why we have the thoughts in our heads vs. the feelings in our guts… (no that’s actually not it at all, except… isn’t it though?).
DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I figure the feeling of being in your head is simply due to your eyeballs being located there. Now I want to put a 3d camera on my hips, and steam it to VR goggles.
meyotch@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
The hips do not lie. Ipso facto, you would be seeing ultimate truth.
It turns out that the meaning of life is at crotch level.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 months ago
People have experimented with that sort of thing. Here’s a DIY for going into 3rd person mode using a camera on a stick and some electronics in a backpack. Bit of googling also finds me body swap experiments, but nothing on a crotch perspective.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Microphones and headphones too.
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
There are fern trees, conifer trees, and flowering trees. Where are my moss trees?
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 months ago
theres also a definition of a what a tree in the sense , its develops wood, many things are tree like, but not trees: such as palms(just overgrown herbs), dracaena( aka cabbage tree, they have something dracenoid thickining.) extinct plants like giant lycophytes and ferns
ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 2 months ago
Its basically just the best way to be a large plant if you’re not gonna be a big parasitic ivy. Once your plant circulatory system gets complex enough to send stuff further away, you start getting big enough that you need hard tissues just to stop yourself from folding over.
Tiempo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The future is gonna be tree with crabs…
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I wasn’t ready for how weird this comment section turned out to be…
BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 2 months ago
The genus Cornus is a huge middle finger to growth-form-based taxonomy. It contains dogwood trees and also bunchberry, an itty bitty herb that grows on the forest floor.
The first “trees” were also lycopods whose closest extant relatives are the club mosses, a name which gives you an idea of how big they get.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 months ago
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 months ago
So if you look at a tiny blade of grass and a gigantic tree its like looking at a Chihuahua and a brachiosaurus. And there are smaller things and bigger things in the aminal kingdum!
stebo02@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
tbf isn’t a tree just a plant but big? makes sense that any plant species can evolve into a tree just by getting bigger
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
Fish too
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Trees are like every other plant, ONLY MORE SO
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Heh, branch
tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 2 months ago
Its trees and crabs all the way down.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 months ago
I thought crab-like animals were all actually pretty closely related to each other, i.e. all crab-like animals are arthropods, which is a less broad category than ‘all the plants that can form a wooden trunk’. Any taxonomists here to confirm/deny?
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Concentrated sun energy sinks
obvs@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Or maybe the microorganisms and food sources that life forms are exposed to have more of an effect on how the macroorganisms evolve than is currently talked about, which would explain why so many things in similar environments evolve similar traits.
Pnut@lemm.ee 2 months ago
By the logic we are not humans…
sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Had to look it up because I didnt beleive
sure enough its correct
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Something poetic and quaint about a link to a Wikipedia article titled “Tree”
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 months ago
reddit has broken me. I was expecting it to point to weed.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Scishow had an episode about it a week ago. It’s a strategy, not a species.