Ill bet right before the deadline, they will magically make TPM optional, even though they said they wouldn’t.
6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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notarobot@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
csm10495@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
If ya want to not be plugged into the internet, or use new external media, ya can probably run it safely forever.
tacosplease@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s my plan so far. I just use it for emulators anyway.
cdkg@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
What happens if still use win 10?
ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
You’ll be more vulnerable to malware because it won’t be patched against newly discovered exploits.
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
All you guys said is true. You could get hacked blah blah blah. But to a gamer, a machine exclusively for gaming doesn’t take any of that as a concern. Want to hack my machine? Go ahead! As long as you don’t delete my games, be my guest. I don’t save credit card information on it anyway.
But none of that happens in my case. I don’t game on or run Windows. I’m just here to provide a point of view.
And009@lemmynsfw.com 5 weeks ago
Your local network is compromised, not just 1 windows device. It could potentially leak enough personal information for more targeted attacks.
The chances are slim but AI may enable targeted hacking at scale. I simply wouldn’t risk downloading shit on a device with known security vulnerabilities, without any scope of fixes.
TheFANUM@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You can’t. Every single hack/exploit that goes unpatched will be a gaping door for hackers
rabber@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
You are compromising yourself, though I think you’ll still get security patches for a bit longer
Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
carrion0409@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Honestly, I still don’t know. My 3070 worked well on linux the last time I used it so hardware won’t be an issue. I also don’t play many modern games so that’s not a problem either. It’s just my partner is schizo with what games they wanna play. Rn they’re obsessed with minecraft and bedrock doesn’t work on linux. I know for sure I’m not going to 11 though. I’ve used it before and absolutely hated the UI layout.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
First off, bedrock is cancer it’s just off-brand Minecraft.
But second, there is an unofficial launcher that works on Linux
tobz619@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I would like to switch to Linux on my gaming machine but me and my girlfriend play Valorant together so I can’t switch just yet.
My server and laptop already run NixOS, I’m just looking forward to the day my gaming/main machine join them too
peteyestee@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Didn’t they get rid of some 11 requirements? Won’t most regular people just do the upgrade to 11?
JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
They didn’t get rid of it, they’re allowing you to upgrade to 11 and calling it unsupported. Just like 10 is unsupported.
LeFantome@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
With Win 11, you still get the security updates though right?
beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Got a new laptop about a month ago. Put Fedora Bluefin on it immediately. Couple other computers/server have been running Debian flavors for year or two.
My main desktop is still Windows, but I literally never use it, especially since getting the laptop. I’ll switch it over when I get time.
I’m still tied to windows for three apps. I’ve found a Linux replacement for one, I just haven’t done the work to convert the database.
Another one I’m trying to run it’s Android version in a waydroid docker, but I’m hitting walls, no time to dig deeper.
And the last one has no replacement, and it’s too delicate to try emulating, I don’t want to nuke the shared database it’s attached to, it’s not worth the headache. So I keep a Windows VM around for the once a month I need to use that program for 🤷♂️
I’m purposely being vague about the programs, they are very identifying, but trust me there’s no alternatives.
Even with all that, I’m not looking back win11 sucks.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
If you use it as game launcher, you better have an application firewall set to whitelist Steam only anyway.
FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Is there an easy way to port all my stuff to Linux? I would not have made the switch in the past, but all the good will I attributed to Microsoft is pretty much gone. I’ve heard Mint is petty easy to hop onto?
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 weeks ago
I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.
I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.
The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).
How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.
Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.
Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.
I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.
FrostBlazer@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Thank you for you detailed response! I think something like Bazzite would be more up my alley based on what you said. Something that is hard to mess up is something I’d be more comfortable with for sure.
I appreciate your offer for troubleshooting help as well!
viking@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
I can’t switch to Linux due to software requirements for work. On my personal computer I’m using Xubuntu for well over a decade, I didn’t like the unity window manager of Ubuntu. I heard they changed to something else by now, but I can’t be bothered to switch.
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Plan on, if possible, cloning my account to a new account on a new internal drive (preferably a 2TB+ drive) to save all my stuff that I want and don’t feel like moving over due to laziness. Then on another partition, I plan on having the rest of the space being used for Linux. All I gotta do is make sure the win10 partition doesn’t receive an ounce of Internet connectivity at all and pray I don’t end up with a virus or something similar somehow (because even the safest internet practices aren’t safe enough anymore).
Hopefully I can turn that partition into a cold partition where I can keep the current games I have that aren’t downloaded through Steam installed to ensure I can still play them. Then I can slowly debloat it by uninstalling everything I don’t need on there and get rid of a ton of files/unnecessary programs so that way I can still have roughly 500-600GB for win10 just in case I ever need it for anything, like a program I genuinely cannot figure out how to get working on Linux.
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
linux primary with dual boot for a windows install just because of the games that won’t work.
CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
When that time comes I’ll probably either remove networking from, or just wipe win10 entirely.
Been using mint as my daily for a while now and I hate booting into windows 😂
HollowNaught@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Swapped to Linux last week. Currently dual booting. Over the coming months, I’m going to slowly transfer all my stuff over as well
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
I have Windows only for League, no Steam installed. Ergo I don’t count
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 weeks ago
Linux. I’ve been putting if off because of hardware reasons that would be annoying to explain beyond the solution is upgrading the motherboard, which is bottlenecking me anyways.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I still use steam on Windows 7. I don’t see the problem.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Do you worry about connecting it to the internet?
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nope
Shannaresh@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Just please make sure it’s not internet connected if you value such things as your privacy, and bank accounts not being breached extremely easily. End of security support is no joke.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I don’t really use the browser on that machine. It still has basic virus protection, and such.
End of security support is no joke.
Well that all depends on if you’re laughing.
bzah@discuss.tchncs.de [bot] 5 weeks ago
I will dualboot to keep a windows 10 for software that only runs on it, but I really hope I will be able to be gaming on linux only.
Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I’ve been on Windows 11 since it was released. The only problem I had were NVIDIA drivers sometimes causing a bluescreen (mainly my fault).
Linux doesn’t work for me currently, since I use RDP to connect to systems for work, and RDP clients on Linux are ass.
AceSLS@ani.social 5 weeks ago
RDP clients on Linux are ass.
Remmina is better than windows native remote desktep shit imo
Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Used it, it was probably the best, but still bad. If not for work, it would have been good enough though.
Most of the RDP implementations are also just based on FreeRDP, so they’re basically the same. I had terrible picture quality on all of them, even over local network, and the USB passthrough barely worked.
Tbh since I need the system for work, I wasn’t able to test stuff super long. Maybe I should install Linux on a secondary system, so I can just play around and try stuff.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
Just bought a laptop and put bazzite on it to try it out and figure out if I can do all the things I want to do on it. If that all works out I’ll be switching my desktop over.
Enzy@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Gonna have to.
I don’t mind it, just using w10 for simplicity’s sake.
LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’m going to move over to Mint on my laptop, it’s older but still working great after I swapped an SSD drive in. Biggest issue is backing up the laptop before installing Linux. I have another computer I plan on duel boot with Windows 10 so I have access if I need windows for certain programs. I have no control over my work computer so Windows 11 there.
And unless one of my brothers steps up and buys our Dad a Windows 11 computer (I bought the Windows 10 computer, which is why it was so cheap it can’t take 11. 😆 ) since I’m his tech support if my brothers don’t step up he is going to Linux. No matter what I’m going to have to listen to him complain about how it is different so it will be a good time to move to Linux. Probably a version that tries to mimic Windows.
Boris@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I switched to Linux mate and been using heroic games launcher for the windows games I want to play
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I’ll have to use some sort of windows for VR, I need to investigate the various debloat options
VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
I moved from Win 10 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed 2 months ago. Going very well so far, even for music production and gaming. I also got a friend of mine to dual-boot Tumbleweed/Win11, coming from Win11.
stormdahl@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve been on 11 since before it was officially released. Honestly never had any issues with it, but I’m interested in hearing what sort of issues anyone else might have had? Are we talking about privacy concerns, bugs or performance issues?
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Privacy, UI/UX, admin controls, ads, pop ups or notifications, nagging about online services, AI, forced account creation, not working with older hardware.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I have a Win11 laptop for work, and they changed the Start menu. Now it’s recent apps and recommendations for your starting point, and you have to click an option to see installed apps. Every. Time. There is a setting with 3 options - more recently used apps, more recommendations, or an even split of both, but the option to go straight to installed apps is mysteriously missing…
I will never install Win11 directly onto my hardware. If I have to use it, it will go into a VM of one flavor or another.
stormdahl@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I mostly just use my PC for video games, movies and music production, so that hasn’t really affected me.
Regarding UI I think it’s been horrible since Windows 8. I really miss 7!
adm@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
[deleted]Dremor@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
By emulating the Android version, yes. But The java version is better anyway.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 weeks ago
Which one, Bedrock or Java?
For Bedrock there is an unofficial launcher: flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher (Disclaimer: Never tried it)
For Java there is the offical launcher: flathub.org/apps/com.mojang.Minecraft
Alternatively, for Java, there is also the much better unofficial launchers like Prism: flathub.org/apps/org.prismlauncher.PrismLauncher
r_deckard@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve got a few computers - my daily driver is Win10, there’s a media player still on 8.1 (only accesses music streams and it’s not spotify, it’s URLs like das-edge15-live365-dal02.cdnstream.com/a98345), the main pihole machine runs vanilla Debian, the backup pihole on a Raspberry Pi also running Debian, and a couple of older laptops also running Debian.
So no, I don’t plan to upgrade.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I don’t plan on doing anything until I have no choice but to buy a new computer.
VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Just imagine 43 % market share in the next hardware survey.