1,337 seconds? That… that number used to mean something, but now i can’t recall what…
France runs fusion reactor for record 22 minutes
Submitted 2 days ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to technology@lemmy.world
https://newatlas.com/energy/france-tokamak-cea-west-fusion-reactor-record-plasma-duration/
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match@pawb.social 1 day ago
not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
The translation has been lost to the ages
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Found someone who can help you.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
I still use 1337 sometimes, for joke names like H4xX0r1337 and it’s always that nobody gets it. How could past internet culture vanish like that?
robador51@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
1337, leet, elite
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Shh, don’t let the kids hear you say that
notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 2 days ago
A headline without calling it an “Artificial Sun”?!
Toribor@corndog.social 2 days ago
The power of the sun in the palm of my hand.
MalMen@masto.pt 2 days ago
@Toribor @notsoshaihulud with great power comes great responsibility
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Don’t worry, it will stabilize
cynar@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The amusing thing is that the sun is actually quite a shit fusion reactor. It’s power per unit volume is tiny. It just makes it up in sheer volume. A solar level fusion reactor would be almost completely useless to us. Instead we need to go far beyond the sun’s output to just be viable.
It’s like describing one of the mega mining dumper trucks as an “artificial mule”.
notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I think this energy density math really depends on whether only the core or the whole surface area is taken into consideration.
lurklurk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Arguably, the nearby sun scale fusion reactor has been fairly useful for us. Nowadays we can convert its output directly into electricity using solar cells
merc@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Sure, but it makes up for that by having an idiot proof design.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 day ago
Someone once told me a sun is just a fusion nuclear pile reactor and… Like… I guess.
yogurt@lemm.ee 1 day ago
They say “artificial sun” because that’s what it is though, there’s no fusion reactions they’re just microwaving hydrogen to millions of degrees to study the kind of thing that would happen IF somebody runs a fusion reactor for 22 minutes.
scratchee@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Or a “star in a bottle”
SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 2 days ago
A bulb in a bong
akakevbot@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The power of the sun in the palm of my hand
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 1 day ago
la puissance du soleil dans la paume de ma main
Honhonhon
[Takes a drag on a sexy cigarette]
echodot@feddit.uk 1 day ago
The only reason to pursue fusion power research is so you can say this on a weekly basis. Any benefits to humanity are purely secondary.
Placebonickname@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Meanwhile in America we’re trying to make macdonalds cheaper by bundling an extra sandwich to go along with a value meal…
crank0271@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s called McFusion
Brickhead92@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And it only takes 22 seconds to consume.
Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 1 day ago
America would blow up a fusion reacto, call it dangerous, elon musk has a lot of things to say about it and then it would be illegal worldwide. Have you guys heard about coal? We already fixed it, just burn coal.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
How ks the drill baby drill crowd going to compete against mini stars in a can?
Lmao. Fucking oil losers
Baggie@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
Idk dude, we already have the sun and wind but they hate that stuff too, despite it being very close to free. Hell they’ll probably bitch about fusion causing a surplus of power outside peak loads.
If it doesn’t perpetuate the broken ways we currently do things it doesn’t give their buddies money, so it’s woke or something else bullshit.
Zink@programming.dev 7 hours ago
Well, if I lived in the world of American liberals and conservatives I was taught about growing up, the game would be over the moment fusion power became cheap, and everybody would be happy.
In the real world though? We’ll wait way too long, then get excited when it finally starts to happen, and then right before The Big Day some smooth brained asshole will blow up part of the reactor or fly a plane into the facility or something.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Plastic Straws. Plastic cups. Wrapping indvidual food items in plastic and then putting them in a larger plastic bag which you carry home in an even larger plastic bag.
njordomir@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
The food has been impregnated with microplastics as well. This machine runs on sugar, but someone put oil in the tank. :-/
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 7 hours ago
How ks the drill baby drill crowd going to compete against mini stars in a can?
Nu-Cu-Lar Bad? That’s…about as far as they’ll make it. To be fair, that might be as far as they need to. It’s all the oil companies will approve of them learning, at least.
Of course, it sounds like the big problem of how to remove more power from it than you spend keeping it reacting remains an issue, presuming they can continue to extend reaction lifetimes to be functionally unlimited.
ubergeek@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
I suppose we’ll need to worry about that, once we get a net positive output from a fusion reactor.
x00z@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Why don’t we use “shatters world record” like the pro-China articles where they did this for 16 minutes?
I know why.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 day ago
I know!
Because the articles were written by different people and published in different magazines ya goober.
x00z@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nah.
It’s because of the Chinese propaganda machine.
FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
Because that one was over double the length of the record before it and this one is closer to a 35% increase.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Why do you care so much what an article says about France’s accomplishments of science and China’s accomplishments of science? Why can’t we enjoy the movement of technology without bickering about lines drawn in the sand by people none of us know or care about?
lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Is it because if the Uyghurs?
jose1324@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Dumbass lol
Abnorc@lemm.ee 1 day ago
They’ll never tell.
tomkatt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
This is freaking awesome. Only a few years ago it was exciting to see a fusion reaction last a fraction of a second.
Thief@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
It is awesome. Whichever country develops it first will be remembered as the next ‘moon landing’ event forever.
Saleh@feddit.org 1 day ago
So a big event without any practical relevance because there is more cheaper, reliable and safer alternatives available?
LostWon@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Maybe if it runs longer, we all get to jump to a better timeline. 😅
PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Or the world blows up and it’s all over. I guess what I’m saying is, no downside, fire it up and let’s see what happens.
Obelix@feddit.org 1 day ago
I’m sceptical. Even if somebody would present a working fusion reactor today, what would the timeline to replace everything based on fossil fuels even be? Build several thousand of expensive fusion reactors in every country of the world, even in geopolitical rivals like China, Russia or North Korea or war-torn third world countries? Replace every car with an electrical one? Replace home heating everywhere? Rebuild every ship and airplane worldwide?
JayObey711@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean yea that’s the plan. What are the other options? Force every countrie to stop producing instead to reduce carbon emissions that way? Wich one Sounds more realistic? And I feel like you assume that fusion reactors are dangerous because your comments about war torn countries. But it’s not possible to turn them into weapons. They run on hydrogen. And if they ever oberheat or something the magnets stop working and the reaction stops.
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Progress is progress, and it’s good to be skeptical (I literally just posted a comment saying “I’m skeptical”!), but progress is good. 🙂 What other alternatives are there?
If it doesn’t make dollars, it doesn’t make sense. That’s why the electric car movement is having a hard time really taking off rn; it is hard to justify & all the tech, all our builds, aren’t exactly super economical yet. And they’re not built for tough conditions, heavy towing, long commutes, and easily workable & recyclable components.
…but things are, indeed, getting better. If you look at it from a macro view. Lithium recycling can be done even a decade ago, but IIRC it was relatively small scale & the lithium could be refreshed “most of the way”, not fully. The right things will catch on when their time is right & its viability is realized.
Man’s greatest strength is our shared knowledge, technology, science, and innovation. I encourage you to make good decisions in your personal life and be positive. 🙂
LostWon@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I was just making an abstract sci-fi joke based on how cold fusion has been presented like a Holy Grail in the past. Obviously a better source of energy isn’t going to solve all our problems, no matter how good it is.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 hours ago
This is so cool. I remember seeing that Europe is working on a massive mega project to build an even bigger reactor for more experiements. Its costing like 75 trillion
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I hope it smoked a cigarette once it finished.
DataDisrupter@feddit.nl 1 day ago
I didn’t see any mention of the output in the article. 22MW injected, but does anyone know if the reaction was actually generating a positive output?
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Well, I’m still skeptical, but I have far more trust in France’s reporting than Chinese claims.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 hours ago
Amazing news!
ian@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
They should get out more.
HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 2 days ago
Oh shit. Things are heating up in the fusion race.
Fleur_@hilariouschaos.com 1 day ago
Just one more giga Jule guys …
Pro fusion research btw just a chronic shitposter
jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mr. Fusion now 1 step closer… 10 years late, but still!
meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
France’s 22-minute plasma reaction is a bold stride toward sustainable fusion energy but remains experimental.
🐱🐱🐱🐱
vastlyimproved69@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
merde
caboose2006@lemm.ee 1 day ago
30 years guys.
antor124@leminal.space 1 day ago
This is an incredible milestone for fusion power! 22 minutes of plasma reaction is a huge step forward. Looking forward to seeing how this technology evolves. Check out more details here: <a href=“markdown-viewer.com”>markdown viewer</a>.
Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Doesn’t sound that impressive when Wendelstein 7-X achieved 17 minutes of plasma in 2021.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Garantee you they weren’t generating a whole lot of power though… And if you can’t do that part then what’s the point?
WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
This is cool but also remember the practicalities of Fusion make it not much better than nuclear:
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 days ago
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NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Le et
AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 day ago
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Evotech@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Flexing
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Flexing is not good for the containment
hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
5,318008 seconds should be a new goal.
Cheems@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Rumor is next they are trying for 11.6858˙3 hours
_stranger_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Elven time conversion is the worst.