Submitted 10 months ago by sag@lemy.lol to [deleted]
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I’ve done this on a simple timer app I developed.
Why? Because I want the timer to stop automatically during a phone call. Unfortunately, there’s no way to alter the permission request to tell the user (at least in Android) why you want the permission. They really need to make the permissions more granular and provide some way for devs to communicate what the permission is for.
This is why, on the occasion of necessary permissions not being set, a lot of apps nowadays have a popup which tells the user something like “you need to grant permission for X because it actually lets this app do legitimate thing Y” like you just told us, with a button to click over to do the permissions grab and trigger the OS popup.
Obviously, the calculator app needs camera permission for scanning complex formulas that would otherwise require lengthy manual input and calculating them automatically.
I mean, you can download one in 10 seconds if you really need one (or use Spotlight)
The app I use to write notes needs access to everyone in my Contacts. For “reasons”.
Stop using that app and find a different one.
Simple Notes (Pro)
there are so many open source note apps that actually respect you
You know what’s also annoying AF? The number of apps that keep asking permissions when you open then. Doesn’t matter how many times you say no.
Friendly reminder to my Android peeps that f-droid.org rocks!
I think I open up the google play store like twice a year.
Had to get a Gallery app from there last week
gstore idea of gallery app is ads in your stolen pictures
Seriously, is that how far we came?
laughs in LineageOS
But seriously folks, you can survive without Google Play Store. While it definitely is sometimes not easy and there are obstacles put in your way, after a certain time you learn to accommodate. And I have a peace of mind knowing that no one is selling my pictures to data foraging companies God knows where.
Majority of the stuff there should be on play store too.
I open F-Droid like every week just to know what’s new. Found some cool apps that way. I’ll drop some recommendations here:
Thumb-Key
Quasseldroid
QRAlarm
Audile
At least you’ve got a calculator app, ipads have never had one. Kind of ironic for a device that has more processing power than 1970’s supercomputers.
more processing power than 1970’s supercomputers.
Doesn’t every computer and computer-like device for the last couple decades or more? Or is that the joke?
The joke is that ipads don’t have a calculator despite having plenty of computing power
Even SD cards and USB chargers have powerful microcontrollers in them nowadays
Isn’t it better though? You can install it if you want.
It’s just odd, anything ever made with a user interface since the 80’s has had a calculator app. Apple just remove features and charge more for something that is inherently similar to everything else they’ve ever done.
I’m all for choice or whatever, but a simple system-provided calculator should be benign and lightweight enough to be there and coexist with any competing calculator app without much drawback. Like a clock or web browser.
You can use the search bar for quick calculations. That doesn’t escuses Apple from adding an calculator app on iPad! Most calculator apps have ads or are paid
And I thought our admins removed it…
Isn’t app store full of calculator apps?
Mostly with ads. It’s easy to argue that a calculator is more fundamental to a functional tablet than a web browser is, and Apple includes one. By all means, there ought to be a market for calculator apps, but it’s pretty fundamental to cover the basics. Also, Apple already has a calculator on iPhone and iPad runs pretty much the same software, so where is it?
I feel like most people nowadays are just typing math calculations into their search engine. Which obviously has massive privacy implications.
Yeah. If a search engine knows you didn’t know 5x(30/47)^2 they might be able to derive your SSN from that information.
Well, if I start converting 23 cm to inches, you’ll know that I have a massive dong.
Once upon a time I wrote an IRC chat bot for my friends and I that could do calculations and convert units (metric -> imperial) with a command.
My friends were impressed that I included units like furloughs, leagues and bushels.
My chatbot was just googling their request and returning the result haha. This was 15+ years ago.
Which obviously also has massive privacy implications.
How so? I don’t know much about this stuff lol
I’m mainly concerned with people using it for calculating things personal to them, finances/taxes is a huge one. While the search engine may not know with certainty what the numbers represent, they have so much data on you that they could well start inferring what those numbers are to add to your profile. I might just be paranoid though.
Love your username person
Thank you!
There are many fun ways of calculating stuff.
echo $((5+8)) or abusing REPL mode of python3 or node.
My colleagues once made fun of me using galculator with a tiling wm:
Call me a plebian but I still open up Python when I want to do calculations in the command line because I don’t know how to in Bash.
It also wants to access your location and nearby devices and wifi
Weather wants your location so you can get weather for where you are
Which is fair, but I’d still like to have the option to manually type in my area code, instead of having to turn on gps.
To be clear, I haven’t come across a weather app that doesn’t allow that, but I also wouldn’t be surpised if there are some out there.
This is one of the many reasons I built my own weather application for Android. Too much crap out there.
Are you willing too share? Been looking for a good weather app.
On F Droid lots of beautiful ones. Breezy, Prognoza, Rain, and more.
It can be found on Google Play, Weather Warbler. I haven’t put it on F-Droid yet. Still adding features, so it’s not complete yet, but getting there.
Well yeah. So it can look at its work on the paper.
You weren’t expecting your calculator app to do all that math in its head, were you?
Is this an Android meme I’m too iOS to understand?
Sort of. I don’t remember the specifics, but it used to be that some apps completely unrelated to phone calls had to request access to make phone calls because of some stuff they needed that Google only allowed them access to if they had the phone call permission.
I believe Google has since changed it so most of that stuff is now a separate permission not related to phone calls, so you don’t see it as often now. It can still happen with older apps, though.
How quickly the fan boys come to downvote you for being correct. 🤣
“Android bad” --iOS users upon seeing a satirical meme
The vast majority of the Android/iOS flamewar is pro Android on fedi (mostly Mastodon for me). I usually don’t bother but I thought my comment was at least sort of funny? oh well.
iPads : I’m once again asking you to download a calculator app from the app store
Oh don’t worry, there will be a reason.
Not sure how Bernie is relevant here
the meme is him saying “I am once again asking” (for donations)
Are you too young to know the Bernie Sanders meme, or too old to know the Bernie Sanders meme?
Too old to care
You will.
Its a meme?
F-Droid ftw!
What camera app are you lit using? I’m just using the default Google one and it works as expected with no bullshit.
That’s because it automatically allows camera permission obviously!
Oh man, I hope the sarcasm is just implied.
Calculator camera permissions are so you can take a picture of a mathvproblem and it will do it for you.
Phone call management is to allow phone calls to be recognized by the apk so it will do things like stopping video and muting its sound so the phone call can have priority over other things.
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
And this is why I like Androids feature that automatically revokes permissions after a certain timeframe of not using an app
1984@lemmy.today 10 months ago
Except from Google of course, the worst offender of privacy that exists.
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I am actually using a degoogled phone, and the only thing I’m missing are push notifications, for one single app. Everything else I use works just fine for me, but as always, ymmv
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I am using lineage os without google and don’t really have any problems. There is an open source alternative for most big apps and if you want to use youtube or something you can just use it in browser or install microG that is basically google services without google.
AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah its so freaking sad. It could be such an awesome platform (in some sense it already is) but of course Google has to put their greedy little fingers on it.
The worst part is that it has tons of literal bloatware. I tried ArrowOS without GApps on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, and it was fast while sparing the battery! It had the original battery and I couldnt believe that it could last 2 days easily with light usage.
Then I tried PixysOS and damn, 3GB of RAM was barely enough.
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 10 months ago
iOS will sometimes ask you even if the app has been using it (for certain permissions), and might even tell you how often the app has used it. Which is really handy.
Like, “this app has accessed your location from the background 48 times in the last month, you gave it permission, would you like to change it to ‘when using’?” Or “This app has had full access to your photos, would you like to limit it?” (Not exact wording, but you get the idea.)
Something that delighted me when I discovered it.
(Android does permissions very well too, I’m in no way trying to knock it.)
Gestrid@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
With the last update, Android also started limiting apps’ access to photos on a per-photo basis. Not even Google Lens (which I use to copy text from slides) can see all my photos.
psud@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I give a few apps background location access, and for a couple of weeks after enabling each android would occasionally ask if the app still needs background data
hannes3120@feddit.de 10 months ago
Better yet: Bouncer allows you to remove permissions after a given set of time or immediately after closing the app. WhatsApp only gets my location for 3h after I shared it with someone on there - Google would never remove that permission since the app is in use regularly and it’s no problem granting that permission anew next time I want to share something.
Also all my pictures are only accessible on demand by chat apps and not permanently