And of course all shit electric cars are all automatic. It’s part of the NWO agenda. They want to force us all into electric, automatic cars, Over my dead body! A car that does not produce smelly fumes when driving is not a real car. What I am supposed to smell when walking in the city? Air? Fucking dumb. On top of that they make no sound! There’s nothing to tune up to make my car sound like a racing machine. How I’m supposed to let everyone know I have a small dick if I can’t rev my engine all the time? Not me mention electric cars don’t emit CO2 so I can’t lock myself in a garage with the engine running and kill myself when I realize that no one is impressed by my car and my dick is still tiny. Absurd!
You guys need to stop
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ExLisper@linux.community 11 months ago
bstix@feddit.dk 11 months ago
I’ve literally seen people post that they’d consider going electric if only it had an engine sound. Seriously, people who are old enough to have a drivers license want their car to go wroom wroom.
I get it. It’s the same reason all cars have a steering wheel, despite it being the most dangerous part of the interior. Joysticks just don’t give the same feel as when the captain steers the boat over the seven seas.
Wroom wroom, steer steer, wroooom, change gear while turning, push pedal, wroom wroom.
jukibom@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Steering wheels are enormous because that allows fine grain control, which you need at higher speeds. Switching lane at 70mph requires only very slight movement but turning the car around in a street you can go full lock.
A joystick would be fucking TERRIFYINGLY stupid lmao
GiveMemes@jlai.lu 11 months ago
I mean the wheel is definitely the best control mechanism for driving… whether or not it’s dangerous, there’s a reason the best sim racers use wheels and not controllers and it’s that they provide vastly more control.
vithigar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I was extraordinarily glad to have a wheel when my power steering failed and found myself having to turn the car using the strength of my arms and the leverage of the wheel. A joystick would’ve made the vehicle literally impossible to steer.
axsyse@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
I’ll just leave this here. In short: a guy wrote a physics engine to simulate any combustion engine, and then further got it working with an electric motor so electric motors can use a simulated vroom vroom
vithigar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’ve literally seen people post that they’d consider going electric if only it had an engine sound.
In many regions now it’s actually mandated that EVs make additional noise when moving at low speeds (less than 40km/h or so). There were concerns that quiet vehicles would have more pedestrian accidents.
LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah but that 40 year old with a 4k computer, 90 series card, more lighting than fast and the furious, surrounded by 10k of plastic figures is 👌 Chad.
eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
There actually is an EV with engine sounds and a “manual transmission” from Toyota. According to ArsTechnica, it’s supposed to be pretty good:
zurohki@aussie.zone 11 months ago
electric cars are all automatic
They aren’t, really. They don’t actually change gears, if you want to go backwards you spin the motor backwards.
bitwaba@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And no, you can’t roll start them.
I imagine you “can”, it’s just not very effective. Like, if they allowed you to switch it to regenerative breaking and let it roll down a hill. The problem is you can’t get out any more energy than you put in. So if the battery is dead and you roll down the hill you won’t be able to rull any farther up the other side than you started (even less when you factor in mechanical -> electrical -> mechanical. You’d probably better off putting it in neutral [if that’s a thing for electric cars] and just let it roll)
axsyse@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
tl;dr: my PHEV does change gears when in EV mode, as weird as it sounds
So, I drive a Hyundai Ioniq Plug-in Hybrid EV. It’s a hybrid with a larger battery so it can plug it in and drive full-EV on the battery for ~30 miles/50 kilometers. The freaky thing is that the EV motor is connected to the transmission, so it does switch gears sometimes and you can feel it when it does. Even freakier is that this also applies to regenerative braking: when you slow down from a high speed, you can sometimes feel it switching gears while you brake. That all isn’t too bad since it’s got a dual-clutch transmission and so it switches gears pretty quickly, but it can still be a bit freaky at times.
Additionally: there are some people who have converted antique cars to EVs, but to save money they didn’t touch the transmission and instead elected only to replace the engine. They still have manual transmissions in them, though I suppose you could probably just find a suitable gear to leave them on 100% of them time. Still, you can, in principle, switch gears on them.
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Some have multiple speeds. I think the Porsche has 2 speeds for quick acceleration.
doofer_name@feddit.de 11 months ago
Over my dead body!
Be careful now. The German car and American gun industry might listen and team up.
creditCrazy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Honestly the only issue I have with electric car sound, is that in the country side animals, listin for your engine. So silent electric cars make it all the more likely that your gonna hit a bear. I’m not even asking for them to be deafeningly loud. Other than that my only problem with electric cars in general, is that they are soo overall boring. The Tesla models are just generic car design smoothed over. At least the Prius has a neat double rear windshield. Honestly the only electric car I’ve been thinking of getting, are those new 2cevs that are being reproduced, but electric. The only fun cool cars being made today are Supras and Miatas. Everything made in America just looks like a blow up car thats about to burst. Drm just worsens them further because now I can’t mod or enjoy fixing them. Electric cars are just infuriating because they are just a battery connected to some motors. The complicated part is a fuckin computer chip why is everything sealed. All this effort for a car that looks like a car shaped cum blob.
vithigar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Honestly the only issue I have with electric car sound, is that in the country side animals, listin for your engine. So silent electric cars make it all the more likely that your gonna hit a bear. I’m not even asking for them to be deafeningly loud.
Mentioned this in another comment, but many regions now mandate that EVs have noisemakers built in which emit sound at low speeds (<40km/h or so).
Voyajer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Apparently all the deer around me are fuckin deaf going by what cares I’ve seen hit them.
ExLisper@linux.community 11 months ago
I for one think that cars should be boring. And safe. Safe and boring. You want a fun car? Go to a racing track. You’re on a public road, sharing it with responsible people? Drive responsibly. Be boring. Shitload of people would still be alive today of everyone had a boring car and drove in a boring way.
Random_user@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Cars aren’t about driving. You want to drive? Go to the track.
Cars are about getting from point A to point B. Bring on full automation please!ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Cars are about running down pedestrians, taking up space, eating hot chip and lie
Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 months ago
What was the pedestrian points system again?
10 points for every child 20 for every adult 30 for a pram 50 for a pushbike
Were there any others?
Go hit and run and rack up those points now!
StephniBefni@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I actually quite enjoy driving, especially at night, really helps me relax and get rid of anxiety. I would love to do a track day, but shits expensive.
ByteWizard@lemm.ee 11 months ago
See if there are any autocross groups in your area. Cheaper and safer than a track day with 95% of the thrill.
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 11 months ago
On the one hand, I agree, but on the other hand, it’s one of the most dangerous times to drive
Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Cars are about getting from point A to point B.
We had a tool for that it was called public transportation
Woht24@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Trolling or sad child?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
99% of people want just that. a -> b with a level of safety, fuel efficiency, comfort and a cell phone to distract them. Nobody wants to be constantly pumping the clutch in slow traffic on a daily commute. I have an automatic, and it’s perfect for DD. We also have a small, 6-cyl with a standard, and that car is a ton of fun for evenings out and weekends. I wouldn’t want to make myself or the car suffer in a metro area traffic jam moving at a snail’s pace.
StuffYouFear@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A life time of stop and go traffic on i-35 had me get a auto when my last car died.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I miss my manual transmission sometimes. Though after having an AirBNB in the mountains, I did not miss it. I never want to stop on a hill that steep in a manual.
VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Try sitting in traffic for 2 hours with a stick, moving 10 feet at a time, and we can talk about how much you love manual
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 11 months ago
When people say they prefer driving a manual, the key word there is driving. Sitting in traffic sucks no matter what kind of vehicle you’re in.
lseif@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
seriously if this is an issue for you, youre probably just bad at driving stick
IMALlama@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Eh, it really depends how heavy your clutch is. Exonoboxes (Saturn SL2, Sonic) or sporty cars with lower torque numbers (Miata, Celica, Fiero, Prelude, S2000) = no biggie. Higher torque (V8 Camaros and Trans Ams, Corvettes) usually have an assist spring to help you hold the petal to the floor, but engaging/disengaging take more leg effort.
/late 30s guy who only owned one auto that was converted prior to buying an RV
On a side note, modern manuals kind of suck. They hold revs when you pop the clutch for emissions reasons, which makes the 1-2 shift especially kind of suck. A lot of them also barely engine brake and dual mass flywheels on higher output engines can clunk if you unload them hard. Although regen braking isn’t super thrilling, it’s way more engaging that engine braking in basically any model year 2010+ vehicle.
myrrh@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
…i play a game gauging the aggregate flow of traffic and modulating my speed to avoid braking as much as possible; usually resolves to steady motion and i don’t mind the traffic much…
Psythik@lemm.ee 11 months ago
People love to say this but it literally doesn’t bother me at all.
Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 months ago
Nah, I don’t drive a car at all on my regular commute - a 45 minute long bus ride really isn’t a big deal to me.
Let’s me drive a car I know I’m gonna enjoy while avoiding the worst parts of driving a manual. And as a bonus, I save money on fuel, because bus rides are still cheaper where I live
cmhe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If that is what it takes for people to demand and use more public transportation, then I am loving it.
(I live near a city and don’t need to own a car. I only ever drove manual in the past, and also got stuck in a traffic jam occasionally. IMO it wasn’t that difficult to stop and go, but it depends on your car. I had more issues with a rented big transporter, that required to release the clutch while steping on the gas. But that is just practice.)
ohlaph@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Exactly why I drive an automatic now. Sure, standard transmissions are fun, if you have a fun car, but my little sedan isn’t exactly a fun sports car.
Driving in traffic was annoying with a stick. Never again.
banneryear1868@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A lot of autos you can use the gear selector to determine what rpm you want it to shift at, or use it to downshift. Most people just throw it in D and wonder what the other selector positions are for.
Also a lot of small manual cars suck for highway driving cause they cruise at a higher rpm.
Marcbmann@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I had a car with push button start and a CVT. After putting the first 50 miles on the car, the brake light switch died. Nissan, in their ultimate wisdom, used the brake light switch to tell the computer if you are pressing the brake when starting the car. Well, no brake light switch, no starting the engine. Had to get it towed back to the dealership to get fixed.
I now have a real key and a manual transmission.
noobnarski@feddit.de 11 months ago
Jokes on you, some manual cars also require the brake to be pressed to start them.
Metacortechs@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Clutch pedal as well, so you have 2x as many switches to go bad and strand you if you don’t know how to bypass.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes, I had an older manual car that had this. But it was a mechanical release of the ignition lock connected to the brake pedal.
Sneptaur@pawb.social 11 months ago
You know I think your mistake here was buying a Nissan, not a car with push button start
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nissan had probably the most reliable motors through the 80s, 90s and early aughts, then the Renault thing happened . . . so yeah you’re right.
MrEff@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I used to have a 92 Honda accord. The car was built on par with Toyota as far as reliability. With that said though, there was one time it wouldn’t start. Push started it, but the problem persisted. Went to a shop to diagnose it. Turns out manual cars normally use a clutch switch to tell if you have the clutch pressed to start the car. There is a little rubber standoff on it to dampen the clutch pedal coming back up and hitting it, making it last longer. The little rubber bit fell out and got lodged making the switch not disengage. It was a 10 cent part that cost me an hour of diagnostic time (the minimum). So yes, manual cars still have an equivalent problem to what you had.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your mustache was buying a nissan
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 months ago
*Modern Nissan.
I genuinely believe the K24 is the second best engine ever made, even better than the 22RE.
dandu3@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Better that than having people ram into you because you have no brake lights
db2@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Or the car will be like “You’re creeping forward with your driver’s door open? I’m going to slam in to park without even asking first then all my dash lights will be going full xmas mode while I beep incessantly. Because fuck you, that’s why.”
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Oh no a slight bump in the road. Better shout about it and slam the brakes lmao”
saltesc@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If I’m at a t-intersection with a car parked on the side of the road in front, I’ll start turning, car thinks I’m about to t-bone someone, red lights and alarms everywhere. Scares the fucking shit out of me. The first time it happened I slammed the brakes on and fortunately didn’t get rear-ended.
That system has never done anything but cause me to almost have an accident and to turn it off is buried away in the settings each time I start the car. And the lane keeping assist is so dumb at understanding how people take an apex on corners, or dealing with the faded lines. “Give me the fucking wheel back!” tug LURCH “Fuck!”
It’s like learning to drive with my hyper-anxious mother in the passenger seat all over again, flipping out and unexpectedly trying to intervine over nothing she thought was something.
sagrotan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I actually was a real advocate for gears, then I drove my wife’s new car for some time. Modern automatic isn’t only comfortable, it’s actually more (fuel) efficient, especially in the city. Now I’m an automatic guy. And - the circle of life - my daughter, looking for her first car this year: “No, I want gears!” Now she’s got gears. In a car that weighs less than my phone, but hey, what do I old 🥔 potato know.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m resigned that manual transmissons are a thing of the past, but man, it’s such a huge part of the enjoyment of driving for me.
Getting that perfect shift, especially if accelerating quicky or going up a steep hill is just so satisfying… Or the “minigame” of balancing the clutch and throttle from a full stop uphill without using the handbrake… And that feeling when you smoothly downshift going down a road and the revs pick up, while you ease up on the brake…
Yeah I really like driving.
pkpenguin@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Learned automatic then later manual out of necessity and this is just nuts to me. People enjoy that? Driving is already fairly obnoxious just getting around traffic and the extra tedium of having to shift gears at every stop and go was awful. This has to be some kind of Stockholm syndrome or nostalgia or something
bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah they’ve been more fuel efficient for awhile now, but you can take my 6 speed from my cold dead hands 🤣
I just like it.
I have an auto truck because I needed a truck and that was what was available for the price I wanted to pay, but my daily driver is a stick and imma drive it till one of us dies lol
root_beer@midwest.social 11 months ago
Word. I give not a single fuck that modern autos are more efficient and quicker than manuals. They are boring as hell. If I ever switch to an automatic, it will be because I’ve switched to something electrified and manuals are altogether gone.
I say this as someone who has dealt with the stop-go traffic on a daily basis.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Modern CVTs will always beat manual transmissions in efficiency now. And probably reliability with reputable brands as well. It’s only a matter of time for consumers to catch up at this point.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Should have put her into an old SAAB. I’m talking pre-'92, before GM bought them. They had gears, power, and speed. They also weighed over 2 tons, and are insanely safe. I’ve crashed several on the track, and walk away with scratches every time. It’s a really expensive hobby at times.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s a myth, new cars are much safer, like insanely so. It’s not even close.
Skkorm@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I drive manual, it’s great for my ADHD haha keeps me from fucking around inside my car in traffic.
That being said, the person who made this needs to calm down. It’s not that serious.
lseif@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
its a meme
time_fo_that@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I feel that for sure haha, it’s so much more enjoyable for me and honestly I think it makes people better drivers.
Prof_Eibe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s an American problem. In Europe nearly everyone knows how to drive manually.
frezik@midwest.social 11 months ago
If it weren’t for America, BMW and Mercedes wouldn’t be selling a single manual transmission vehicle anymore.
set_secret@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“EMBRACE THE COMPLEXITY OF MANUAL TRANSMISSION
- CARS are not just about driving, they’re about mastering the ART of machinery!
- Want to feel alive on a steep hill? Forget simplicity, EMBRACE the handbrake juggle and the dance of the clutch pedal!
- “I could simply shift to D, but where’s the thrill in that?” - A call to arms by the Connoisseurs of Complexity.
- DEFEND your right to a gearbox that requires three limbs and a keen sense of timing to operate!
CELEBRATE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS (These are the cryptic contraptions deciphered only by the Worthy)
ZIGZAG MAZE? - Challenge accepted! VOLUME KNOB? - Twist and shout your way through the gears! ??? - Only the true driver knows!
“Please engage the starter motor.” - “Certainly, after I adjust the choke and check the distributor!” “I fear no hill start, for I have the power of the clutch and the arcane knowledge of the gearbox!”
Join the ranks of those who drive not for convenience, but for the pure, unadulterated challenge.”
dewritoninja@pawb.social 11 months ago
As someone studying tech, yes please, give me the dummest most rudimentary car with no computer or servos. I don’t want general motors to gather my biometrics or a script kiddy to disable my steering. Dumb technology is best always. Fuck that android auto bs or whatever abomination the manufacturer adds. Just want a speaker with an aux cord so I can listen to my flacs
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Manuals are for reading not for driving.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Real men use steam. What is with your prissy internal combustion engines? Shovel coal like a real driver.
Paddzr@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Here’s a thought, get a car made in the same decade. Your experience on budget automatic from 2001 doesn’t represent modern cars.
papalonian@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Does anybody have the version of this about roads, intersections and such? I’ve been trying to find it but don’t really know what to search
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Surely the volume knob isn’t a real gear stick, right?
Juris_LLM@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Oh you mean the prndl?
lseif@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
hey i made this :) nice
Orbituary@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve owned 3 automatics in 40 years. I’m going to ride out the apocalypse in my 2-seat 50+ year old, 35mpg manual.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The chauffeur is supposed to be the one dealing with those mechanical details.
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m still perplexed by my grandfather driving around in a manual with a beer and a cigarette. Did the WWII generation have a third hand?
crackajack@reddthat.com 11 months ago
“Real men use rocks to fight.” says the man to another man with a gun.
mlg@lemmy.world 11 months ago
handbrake starts are useless if you live literally anywhere with significant hills/slopes and traffic lol
You gotta learn to just give the proper gas to clutch ratio, otherwise you’ll be holding up traffic anytime you want to move forward
Agent641@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Fuck if I dont miss bump-starting my old ford falcon.
arc@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Most of not-North-America drive around in manual vehicles. Have to wonder what the allure is of something which is kind of mundane, boring and retrograde, especially these days. If people really want to connect with a car, then buy an EV. Instant torque and responsiveness without screwing around with extra sticks and pedals or suffering the rubber banding in some automatics.
computerscientistI@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I don’t drive a car that needs detonating dino-dhiarrea anymore. And BEVs only habe one gear. So there’s that.
bleepbloopbleep@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Does this guy not know of a handbrake?
Works really well in my automatic car.
letsgo@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I switched from manual to auto after I moved to Reading and found myself constantly dancing the clutch fandango in all the stop start traffic.
bluewing@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Someone bring this sniveling fool to me! I grew up on a farm and when I learned to drive, I started with a 5x3 manual double stick and then “graduated” to a 15 speed. I will have this fool crying in his pablum within a mile.
I’m all for automatics. What transmission you drive does not lessen the driving experience.
BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Love my 7MT and the risk of a high speed 1-2-1.
EarWorm@lemmy.world 11 months ago
When I drive, I am one with my vehicle! I have the gear stick up my ass and twerk to change gears, like a MAN!
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s the way my father taught me and his father before him!