Having a test before being allowed to vote. Nothing fancy, just yes/no questions like “is water a liquid”, “is the USA in America”, “is B the fifth letter of the alphabet”, things like that, which anyone adult regardless of education level could answer correctly. This would filter out the maga portion of the republican voters and solve the problem.
He has become a felon 34 times over, impeached twice, is there anything else anyone can do to get Trump out of office besides a storming the gates?
Submitted 14 hours ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 hours ago
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 minutes ago
Basically a literacy test, which was found to be a basic discriminatory tactic during the Civil Rights era, and you want to bring it back? But it’s okay because it’s the people that YOU hate, instead of the people THEY hate.
We don’t save Democracy by committing the same crimes that they do. Nobody hates MAGA more than I do, but that’s not the way to purge them.
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Is the earth flat?
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 1 hour ago
Exactly.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
People who answer yes get thrown off the edge
Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule
I suggest this.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 minutes ago
It’s been long established that a small percentage can lead to a “Tipping Point” and cause a trend that can grow and take over. People like Malcolm Gladwell and Mark Penn have written excellent books about the concept. This article is interesting because it is directly ties the idea to non-violent protests.
People have been watching the No Kings protests, for exactly this reason. With a population of 335 million, 3.5% is about 12 million people, and the No Kings protests have been drawing around 8 million, and will probably draw more in the future. Add to that all the sympathetic protesters at home, and we have to be at that 3.5% goal, and probably beyond it.
I’m one of those homebound protesters. I’m NEVER going to go to a protest, but that doesn’t mean I’m not as militant as they are. At my age, I’d be a liability at a protest, but I can work my keyboard, and spread sourced news and anti-MAGA propaganda in equal measure. Thats my DAILY contribution to the fight, and it’s just as important as showing up to monthly or quarterly protests.
Add people like me to the No Kings protesters, and we are certainly beyond the 3.5% required to cause a tipping point, and it really feels like it is happening. They are losing nearly every court case, including tariffs, MAHA, and more. What little support there was for this war has fully collapsed. He has broken every campaign promise to people who LOVE to repeat “Promises Made, Promises Kept.” Today, EVERY SINGLE MAGA knows that’s not true at all.
schwim@piefed.zip 14 hours ago
Now that the corpos and billionaires know that they can be openly and brazenly corrupt and greatly accelerate their schemes, we will never see a return to the politics of old where hiding it minimized profit regardless of who the next puppet figurehead is. You cannot un-ring the bell.
fizzle@quokk.au 12 hours ago
It’s basically this.
With the US’ bonkers electoral system, and abysmal education levels, you’re pretty much cooked.
You have an oligarchy, a captured state, a corporatocracy. Oligarchs tell voters to vote for the leader who will benefit them most.
Research suggests that it doesn’t actually take that many people to convince those oligarchs that another leader will be in their best interests. For example, if 3% of people who regularly buy things from Amazon and visit facebook and use ChatGPT, stopped doing those three things indefinitely by switching to alternatives, that would likely be enough.
However, I just don’t believe that’s achievable.
felixwhynot@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Fingers crossed…
jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
i am predicting a small civil war during/after the november elections
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 6 hours ago
Being allowed to run again, despite being a felon highlights a glaring gap in the ability of US politics to prevent shit like this from happening.
In the UK some right wing manosphere influencer keeps saying how he’s gonna run for Mayor of London (Ant Middleton).
People are gleefully pointing out that his convictions for assaulting a police officer and tax evasion bar him from the role.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
Excluding people from running for office because of criminal conviction provides an incentive for authoritarians in power to prosecute their political opponents, so it’s a question that definitely has two sides. :/
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 3 hours ago
And this is where ensuring total independence of the judiciary comes in.
Its insane to me that the president can pick a Supreme Court judge.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
if usa was a democracy and people had any power, maybe…? might as well try oust putin out of power, maybe the response is still less violent than it would be in russia, but you’ll have as much success. Though with enough people demanding something, change happens or steps toward change start to happen, but way america is you need really thorough rebuilding of your entire political system for things to get better.
But as quick patch one thing that comes to my mind is abandoning both sides of your oneparty system and starting a third pary, but that is just temporary because eventually it will be either taken down or corrupted, but it might give you at least something without having to resort to more violent measures.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Sometimes those people’s necks just start squirting randomly.
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
1/3 of US renters not paying their rent in a coördinated strike for one month would unwind a lot of landlord loans and collapse Wall Street which is where Trump stores his wealth.
lmmarsano@group.lt 13 hours ago
Vote enough non-Republicans into Congress, impeach, and convict? Wait for whatever is turning his skin purple to take its course?
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 11 hours ago
Kind of had 4 years to get that shit figure out and still fumbled.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
4? Closer to 200
a4ng3l@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
With some luck diabeties or aneurysm. He looks ripe for it.
Paragone@piefed.social 9 hours ago
This is why relying on “political will” to enforce accountability is incompetent.
You’ll notice that Noem is now facing possible perjury-prosecution, but the in-favor/in-power ones aren’t..
Politically-based “accountability” is accountability-to-power’s-narcissism, only, in the end.
It has to be done automatically, at the system-level.
It had to be automatic that he couldn’t even be eligible for election, instead of “saying sorry after gets shit done, whereas asking permission gets one prevented” kind of thing.
DarkTriad/DarkTetrad people have to be automatically & systematically prevented from authority-roles.
Society-wide.
No “political” alternative prevents the problem anywhere-near so efficiently.
So, to your question “is there anything else anyone can do to get Trump out”, no: it’s too late.
Any attempt at impeaching him, now, would trigger his invoking of The Insurrection Act, & activating total-dictatorship.
Which he is going to do regardless, once his frustration reaches high-enough intensity.
“a penny’s worth of prevention is worth a pound/euro of cure” is still true.
But at-last the lessons of what the Christians call “armageddon”, these next 6-decades, will be significant..
Once the tippingpoint’s crossed, I expect the Regional Consolidation Time to be Trump ditching/ignoring all the rest of the world except for his wars on conquering the Americas. ALL of them. Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance .. will only be a sub-plot, not the whole thing.
About 1/2-way through the 7-y cycle, I expect him to be replaced with Musk.
The problem isn’t them: the problem is humankind’s collective-unconscious-mind’s ego-games, its “apocalypse” “proving its ego’s IMPORTANCE”, that “nothing is more god than ego’s TANTRUM/POGROM is!!”.
So, fundamentally, it’s The Great Filter: our underlying toddler-nature breaking the world to “beat god and make god obey!!”.
Trump, Putin, Millei, Farage, Orban, etc, highjacking the world for their exclusive-wealth/oligarchy .. that’s only “makeup”.
The communist-party’s imperialism, in various national variants, is every bit as “fascist” in its DarkTetrad as individual-centered-fascism is.
The fundamental difference between individualism vs collectivism doesn’t make imperialism somehow become not imperialism.
Party-imperialism’s murdered millions.
What’s the difference between how bad well-accomplished-sociopathy of the left is, vs the right?
the well-accomplished-sociopathy’s the same, only the political-left vs political-right is different.
So why ignore the underlying sociopathy??
As ideologues consistently do.
It’s foolish, in my opinion, to think that Putin & Trump are going to remain contradicting: their underlying goal is the same: competitive-nihilism & competitive-narcissism, at EVERYBODY-ELSE’s expense.
But they’re only 2 of many representatives of that “church”.
See the overall-picture, not the only-local view: it’s global, the forces are implacable, & humankind’s positioned to .. not do well, this century.
Unless someone massively changes humankind’s viability..
which would take dimensions of competence, & dimensions of self-conquering, that normals never allow anyone to earn ( far too “outlier” )
So, humankind is “walking the plank”, now.
Other paths were possible..
Does anybody understand that preventing genociding in Palestine would have required about 6+decades of the UN being the only gov’t there, & NO ideology imprinting anybody, not through education, not through prejudice, not through abuse, not through apartheid, not on either side!
& keep holding that, generation after generation, until the prejudices were extingushed-sufficiently.
No other path could have worked.
Making-believing, while accommodating ideological-prejudice’s perpetual self-entrenchment sure as hell didn’t work!
It’s the same in the US.
It takes decades to create a population who can do correct-reasoning, & who is loyal-to/valuing-of it.
It takes only months to eradicate that, replacing it with ideological-prejudice.
The brain-system driving ideological-prejudice is more-primitive, more emotional.
The brain-system driving correct-reasoning & objectivity is the recentest part of the brain, the outer cortex ( top of brain, btw ).
the problem isn’t local: it’s racial. Whole-species.
Humankind’s fighting-off moral-anxiety & correct-reasoning & objectivity by digging-into programmed-reacting, animal-"reasoning”, ideology, prejudice, & ideological-"morality”.
& about 9/10 of humankind’s on the side of ideology, from the looks of things.
Trump’s a symptom, not a cause.
The cause is whole-species-wide: our unconscious-ignorance’s fighting-for-its-totalitarian-dominion.
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nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
storming the gates would be a pretty stupid idea if i recall correctly
glitch1985@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
There is a pardon for that unless you’re referring to Babbitt.
lmdnw@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Vote in better Congresspeople who will vote to remove him from office. The problem is the people. Always has been.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
People yes, but also the system is extremely fucked up and stacked against people. If you are unlucky to be born in bumfuck Alabama, you’ll grow up with your asshole priest telling you lies, your TV / Radio telling you lies, your patents telling you lies because they too were lied to and your school being underfunded and shitty.
It’s a vicious cycle that we allowed to get to a point of no return and it is not easy for somone to get out of it.
And this is by design, the elites used religion and propaganda to brainwash a huge swath of people.
I honestly think even they are surprised how well they did, because they were afraid they went too far when Trump got into office the first time.
They thought they had pushed their luck and now a fully open conman rapists was the leader of their party.
But, the brainwashing was too strong and complete, the cult members are literally cheering him on as he’s killing people.
lmdnw@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I get that and I could see that as an excuse maybe 10-15 years ago, but my thinking is that in the age of regular internet availability, nation-wide, there is less of an excuse to be ignorant and it’s more of a choice at this point about whether you are informed or not.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
In November he’s going to try and steel the election, if we effective block that, his days are numbered, so get organized locally.
Sorry lone wolves, you had your shot and and all your incoherent takes achieved was a poll boost for him. L
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 hours ago
Which alloy do you thing he’ll use?
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
Dude helmed one of the biggest child sex trafficking rings in history, whipped his loyalists into a coup attempt with false claims of “stolen election”, suffered no consequences for that, came back promising revenge, pardoned his convicted loyalists, turned them into a private army that has been given carte blanche to murder peaceful opposition, is operating death camps, has kidnapped and murdered the leaders of foreign countries with impunity, routinely ignores those in his own party and Supreme Court when they occasionally oppose him, is threatening all sorts of voter suppression (up to cancelling elections), defies the Constitution by calling for a third term, is backed by a cabal of the most wealthy and powerful individuals in the nation who are also clients of his child sex trafficking ring, is beloved by the nation’s police forces, has seized total control of the military, and has already ignored every check and balance that exists because he can. You can flip the entire Congress blue but unless they find someone who can physically extricate him and his cronies from their positions, he can ignore every impeachment, court order, and protest if he says “nah, I’m staying”. You really think his backers have worked this hard to gain control just to lose it in two years to the will of the people, the people they know would have a helluva time matching them blow for blow to force his removal?
Don’t not vote, but don’t be so assured winning at the polls translates into the first step of over-throwing the regime. I mean, what are you going to do if voters say “time for you to go” and his response is “fuck you, make me”?
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
My point is that in November he will try shenanigans and people will need to take to the streets to enforce the results of the election.
If he failed to steel the elections in November his days will be numbered.
The outcome of the elections is less important than the willingness of people to defend them, when he sends in the FBI to steel uncounted ballotboxes in purple districts.
disregardable@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Republicans need to go blue. They’re going to target purple areas for election fraud- deep red states need to go “That’s it, we’re done. You won’t do anything, so we’re changing parties.”
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 11 hours ago
Thats not going to happen. The small capitalists and other cult members are simply going to stay home on election day if Trump continues to fuck up.
If the dems do manage to materially improve people’s lives, or at least create the perception of helping them, then the dem base will come out to vote.
The only way the dems could fuck this up is if they run on centrist bullshit chasing republican votes, again.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
So you’re saying I’ll have to vote centrist for 2028?
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Looks like America (and the rest of the world) has to suffer him at this stage, unless they go full coup de tar mode.
I wonder what the future leaders will look like for Russia, USA and China…
Triasha@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
We thought we couldn’t do worse than Bush, but here we are. I’m not holding my breath for the future. I’m expecting 4 years of someone not a total asswipe and then we elect mecha hitler or someone somehow worse.
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Oof i was watching old Bush speeches about trading with other countries on youtube and felt weird when he sounded smarter than Trump
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
China is the interesting one. Since Deng , it’s been an interesting and varied toss up of goals and actions mixed with pragmatism and technological improvements.
I wish Hu’s reforms went further, the oppression of minorities halted and Pooh bear wasn’t in charge
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Mmmm a very interesting one. I guess growing up during the Cultural Revolution after having your high-ranking dad purged makes you hungry lol
Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Good thing no one has set a precedent for kidnapping or blowing up leaders.
user_name@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
The way I see the only chance is if Peter Thiel backs a Trump removal sometime after the midterms. In that case we would have Trump out.
On the other, the goal would be so that J. D. “Couchfucker” Vance can serve the remainder of his term and then still be constitutionally eligible for two terms, leading to a decade of President J. D. “I Fucked Erika Kirk Because I Actually Hate My Wife Who Isn’t White And Isn’t Christian” Vance 🫡🇺🇸🛋️💦✝️🙏
crazycraw@crazypeople.online 11 hours ago
I think the old ways are all gone. all the folks saying “just vote!” are optimistic but grossly underestimate the state of compromised U.S. politics at a level never seen before. never will there be another election that he doesn’t taint. and I mean taint.
i think “voting” people into office happens all over the globe with varying degrees of successes and failures and gridlock. ultra rich pocket the leaders that have a price and remove those that dont.
i vote gate storm. we must form a more perfect union, plus he himself established the precedent that it’s fine and those that do are patriots…
Aequitas@feddit.org 11 hours ago
Everyone knows what needs to be done and what should have happened long ago. And not just to Trump, but to the entire oligarchic class in the US and worldwide.
Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
An exceptionally blue midterm this year. Not gonna happen this time around, as it needs a majority far beyond what is achievable in just one midterm election, but the long term clue is to have people willing to hold him accountable, instead of a congress consisting of 50% yes-men.
There’s a lot of justified hate towards the dems, but believing voting for neither serves anyone but the doors in charge is naive at best
zxqwas@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Sit around and wait. No matter what you think will happen next election he is old and not the image of healthy living.
dan1101@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Such an unsatisfactory way to deal with orange baby tyrant.
rossman@lemmy.zip 13 hours ago
Heard things won’t happen the way we expect. He’s in late stage dementia with sleeping etc and the only people around him are those that will use him til end of life. His immediate family sees him only as capital.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 11 hours ago
People are literay dying because of him, Americans as well as others. Just waiting around seems quite unfair to them.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Send a message to the Trisolarians.
All hails our alien overlords!
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 11 hours ago
Do they have a phone number or email? At this point, I’d like some outside help.
msokiovt@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
Trump had already been stripped of power on October 6, 2025 by the International Common Law Court of Justice.
Proof is here: murderbydecree.com/…/a-public-indictment-of-donal…
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
He already stormed the gates and frankly, it wasn’t a good look.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
Cholesterol, perhaps.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 12 minutes ago
Three things: 1. A general strike. 2. Vote them out in the mid-terms this November. 3. Full scale revolution.