Trigger warning - This Epstein stuff is making me sick...

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• ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  On a side note, we know that hundreds, sometimes thousands of children disappear in war zones. This has happened in Ukraine, is happening in Palestine. Keeping regions destabilised benefits monsters. I would argue most of the aggressors leaderships are proven monsters. Some of those are very well acquainted with Epstein.

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• mcv@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There should not exist a class of people with such unaccountable power that they can do these things and get away with it.

  This isn’t just about Epstein, Trump and all the other child rapists on those files (although they should definitely go to prison); it’s about the system that makes this possible, and puts the worst possible people in a position to do this and get away with it.

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• tackleberry@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No one is asking about the girls that did not make it back from the island. These criminals are lucky we are no longer in the medieval period

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  • davepleasebehave@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the point is that there is not a critical mass of people willing to risk everything to change things.

    In the Medieval times it would be the same. Would the average person really want to try and storm castle against professional soldiers wearing plate armour?

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• laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Wait until you find out parts of it are still operational

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• Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Remember, the FBI found NOTHING to even start looking into an investigation.

  Zero reasons.

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This isn’t just about America, or MAGA, or even Trump. I always understood that this was an international enterprise, but as I read this stuff, I’m realizing that it was bigger and uglier than my worst imaginings.

  I just read about a wealthy guy in a Detroit in the 70s who ran an Epstein-like operation on an island he purchased in one of the Great Lakes. He built a giant mansion on it, and started hosting underage sex parties for wealthy men. The article suggested that he might have been an inspiration for Epstein.

  The point is that these people have always been here, and now that Epstein is gone, someone else will be taking his place. Nobody understands the scope of Epstein’s business better than his best friend Trump, who also recognizes how lucrative it is, and he is psychological incapable of resisting those riches.

  He also has easy access to plenty of sex products. He has enormous detainment centers full or poorly documented children, separated from their families, lawyers, or anyone else who might care about them. They could be disappeared for a long time before someone notices, if ever. I’m sure we’ll find that the prettiest ones, of both sexes, are being scheduled for transfer…somewhere.

  Putin has also kidnapped thousands of Ukrainian children, another source for East European girls, for those who aren’t turned on by brown children.

  You can bet that someone is rebuilding an international child sex operation somewhere, and I’m betting that Trump is in on it.

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  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It gets even worse when you realize that the reason why these people don’t want social programs is because they need poor, vulnerable kids to prey on. They managed to convince people to literally sacrifice their children, albeit quite indirectly.

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  • AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can bet it doesn’t need to be rebuilt because it never stopped and Epstein was just part of an international ring that involved people from all kinds of positions of authority. In my city alone there were law enforcement , boy scout leaders, and Catholic priests all enabling each other and helping to cover up their crimes while flying people in from all over the world to do this fucked up shit.

    Thats one city. Imagine that kind of fucked up shit has been happening all over the world for decades or maybe even centuries. No way in hell it ever stopped because Epstein was indisposed.

    You know that plot in the original true detective about the Louisiana pedophile murder ring? It turns out that was almost certainly based on real stories.](www.neworleansunsolved.com)

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  • tackleberry@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    and these are the people Iranian diaspora are begging to drop bombs on Iran. I bet their ancestors would be rolling in their graves because of the disgrace some of these diaspora Iranians have become.

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  • SynAcker@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you have more information about the thing you describe around Detroit?

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    • spex@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      lemmy.world/post/43129185

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  • redsand@infosec.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Check out the franklin scandal from the 80s. It might be the same CIA ring as Epstein.

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• pimpampoom@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yes it’s terrifying, and so is that font you use

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  • interdimensional_sharts@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ❤️justice.gov❤️/epstien🥰/files 🌈

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  • epicthundercat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    lol

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    • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It was a bit of light in the dark 💕

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    • RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I love your font.

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• BaraCoded@literature.cafe ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Luigi 'em all

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• Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We need to take cadaver dogs to Trumps golf courses and epsteins properties

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• ritsku@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I saw a video recently about there being bulldozers are the ranch moving things… I’m not sure if I can find it again but someone needs to keep track of these assholes

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• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If this brings the western world down then good. Whatever happens, we cannot ignore it. This is what wealth in capitalists nations degenerates into.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    well some people are resigning due to being named in the files except the people in the USA. i dont put much hope for USA, but other countries might be able to do it.

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because non capitalist, non Western nations don’t do anything like this, right? Junko Furata, African child soldiers, South Asian sex trafficking rings, Khmer Rouge…need we go on?

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    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m fucken sorry, who has the only known example of a global paedophile ring implicating nearly all of its leaders? This is fucking unprecendented. No need to take it personally unless you are a capitalist.

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    • Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s… Also bad? Why are you bringing that up?

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• YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This what I don’t get when folk online treat girls under 18 of any age as the same thing. A full grown person 30 something adult being with a 17 year old is exploitative, controlling and weird.

  Being with an 8 year old is monstrous and, frankly, worthy of the death penalty.

  I’m not excusing the first, but do people really see no difference? If you need a legal line in the sand to determine if it’s either totally fine or straight to the guillotine then maybe there’s something wrong with you.

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  • GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck, man, doing this to an adult is heinous. Doing it to a child? I’m not typically a violent person. But I’d kill them.

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    • YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same.

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  • Virtvirt588@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Pedophilia is the attraction to children younger than 12-10 to around 3, this is what was occurring mainly within that island. Of course, there where women within their teens and adults which don’t technically qualify as pedophilia but are referred to it either way - which is incorrect.

    Of course, pedophilia according to dsm5 on itself is listed as a mental disorder, nepophilia is also included. However, it is to say, attraction to those above 13 is not considered as a mental disorder. It also helps to know, that biologically such individuals are closer to adults than children, so it goes in hand with your last paragraph.

    It is the sake that the legal line is essentially an “anchor” point, especially since we still believe in hoaxes which are related to growth and maturity. As such this incorrect view is projected to everyone even if the facts are different to what people expect.

    In essence, the whole premise overall seems to be fueled by misinformation which is causing the whole “under 18” group to appear as one and the same, no matter the age. This is a major problem I agree, and the misuse of the word pedophilia tells a big story about it.

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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The reason you don’t hear more people explaining the difference between being a pedophile and being an ephibophile is that it makes you look like a pedophile.

      Case in point.

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    • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I swear to god if fedi starts defending “ephebophilia” as if its meaningfully different enough to matter I’m going to start cutting dicks off lmao.

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  • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Both deserve jail time, and the only people who really care that much are usually from the former group distancing themselves from the latter.

    Both are fucking gross.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    an 18 dating a 16 is one thing, and whatever justification can be used then is not applicable to a 30yo dating a 16 yo, let alone any younger… and any argument made by those pedos deserves no response besides putting them on a list

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• C1pher@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Crist… whoever is responsible for this, or did this to another human being needs to be fucking shot. Not in the head, no no… but in the knee caps, shins… everywhere to make it just-as, if not more painful than the pain their victims felt.

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yep. Its gets worse even. These animals must be euthanized to stop the spread of the rabies

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• Bullerfar@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s funny, that the files has already had a lot mlre consequences in europe than in the us. Even though 6 in the top of your current administration is mentioned a lot more fucking times than even the worst in europe. (I hope they imprison prince andrew for lfe btw)

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• Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The scary part, is now that Epstein is gone, it’s all just happening somewhere else.

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I imagine he was one of many as well, and most of them probably aren’t dumb enough to fill their inbox with evidence.

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    • epicthundercat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Now we know why there are so many missing kids every year… Messed up

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    its not in thier best interest to eliminate ghislaine now, that would just make things worst, whichis why they are keeping her alive.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Maxwell 100 percent has dirt that would be released on her death, and they can’t get to whomever may be holding it. Epstein thought he had that too I’m sure, but Israeli intelligence betrayed him.

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• Felis_Rex@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Anything less than death is far too little for these sick fucks.

  Swift and quickly, this needs to end and be left in the past.

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  • davepleasebehave@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Epstein could very well still be alive

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    • Felis_Rex@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s what I’m saying. We tried that whole jail shit and things got fucky. We had/have enough evidence to get his contacts. Jeffrey Epstein Did Not Kill Himself.

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  • demizerone@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pole hangings

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  • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    too easy of an out

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    • Felis_Rex@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m fine with an easy out.

      I don’t need them to think about their actions. I don’t need them to stew and marinate in their guilt I certainly don’t need them to have avenues to still exert influence.

      They need to die, anything else is a distraction.

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    • clubb@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Torturing the torturers won’t fix anything.

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    • harcesz@szmer.info ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only if you reject a large body of research on that matter conducted by hummanity over centuries. Ie. impaling seems a reasonable compromise between unpoetic justice and a nod the conservative traditional aproach.

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• Jumi@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  God above…

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• WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thanks, could not read through it, day soured.

  I’m already at 100% belligerance, no need.

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• nirodhaavidya@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  God Damned, that is pure fucking evil. Like, I can’t even… Just literal evil.

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• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But what can we do

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  • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    America has tryed nothing and is all out of ideas!

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  • Crankenstein@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Read up on anarchist praxis and revolt. The only way out is to burn this fucker down and build something new.

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  • epicthundercat@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Plan a day to burn down Zorro Ranch. Thats my first thought.

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    • Formfiller@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No we need to take cadaver dogs there

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    • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Komtech Communications “temporarily closed”

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• daannii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Image

  Why is this man’s faces redacted.

  ?

  Wtf. Show us his face.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s probably trump.

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• Witchfire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything…

  We passed that point a while ago

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  • fleebleneeble@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    www.woodsplitterdirect.com/…/wood-chippers

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  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Funny enough, after a big tree fell on my property a little while back and I wanted to mulch it all for the garden, so I did some research. I was mostly looking at rentals, which were about $500/day for the ones that could handle thick branches.

    I wanna say buying was like 10× that for the cheaper ones, but that was for the smaller models more suitable for middle sized branches, but then I would’ve had to use a chainsaw to break up the thicker chunks.

    I wound up cutting it into logs and they’re still sitting there, I should probably look into it again and actually get around to it.

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  • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    130 quid will get you something that can chomp something 45mm in diameter. For something that is more size-agnostic, you’re talking closer to a 1000

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• chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s crazy that we are living in a surveillance state and it isn’t even good for bringing the worst people to justice, they know it’s happening and let it happen while the criminals chat about it on fucking gmail while the rest of us think about being watched and worry about getting in trouble for every minor little thing.

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  • snowboardbumvt@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Of course, that’s exactly the point of a surveillance state. It’s purpose is total control of the general population and complete freedom from consequences for the wealthy elite. Any rhetoric about it keeping us safe is pure propaganda. People knew this a long time ago, that’s why we have the 4th amendment and other privacy laws.

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• wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I need eye bleach.

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• p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won’t actually do anything

  You think we need pitchforks, torches, and shovels? They are armed with guns.

  Typing on a forum won’t do anything. Shouting real loud won’t do anything. Protests won’t do anything.

  You can’t appeal a horde of psychopaths. Narcissists and sociopaths and psychopaths do not give a shit about you, and they never well. They would happily step over your dead corpse as they climb the Congressional steps to vote that day.

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  • YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As an observation, I spent a while in France and I noticed something different about them. They don’t put up with shit from their government. If a law is passed that many disagree with, they just don’t comply. They refused to accept, for example, vehicle clamping. The government passed it anyway, so they started handling out kits to escape them. People distributed them freely and would free any car they saw clamped. They tried to stop them smoking outside cafes. Zero compliance. Maybe it’s a hangover from The Revolution, but I found this attitude heartening.

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Easier to disobey when you live in a democracy where your government wont drag you off the street into a concentration camp.

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  • Felis_Rex@lemmy.zip ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I saw my naivete during the George Floyd protests when state police came to my city with blacked out badges and punisher masks.

    They are HEAVILY armed.

    It’s a nice sentiment for garden tools but you need actual firearms. Regrettably, I’ve yet to go to a major protest since trump has been in office. Somewhat a relief since we know now they are using footage to put protesters in terroist databases. If you aren’t going to protests even partially in black bloc you are ill prepared. If you aren’t arming yourself you are ill equipped.

    I hope this ends, yet I have zero faith in peaceful protests to stop a fascist regime. I’m not saying don’t protest, I am explicitly saying that force must be met in kind. When winter ends I anticipate things escalating and heating up a lot more.

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  • draco_aeneus@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The pitchforks are a metaphor, obviously.

    I’m not sure what point you’re getting at. We shouldn’t try to do anything, because the guilty are too powerful?

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    • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      We shouldn’t try to do anything, because the guilty are too powerful?

      No. I’m saying we’ve had far too many false hope protests that have wasted decades of time and uncountable resources, and the people in power are literally incapable of the empathy involved to produce results. In fact, the latest craze in right-wing doctrine is calling empathy a weakness, just to make sure any vestiges that still exist within their voters is excised out.

      If you want to do something, do something more forceful. These people only care about a few things: not losing their fortunes, and not dying. If you can make them afraid for one of those two things, pursue that.

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• zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Thanks for the trigger warning. That font really makes me mad.

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  • epicthundercat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I mentioned this. I have dyslexia and some don’t helps me process faster when I read and unfortunately the less straight and even the better. I also like Open Dyslexic and comic sans and I know most normal people hate it.

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    • localfaithlyone@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i think the font’s pretty cute personally, happen to remember what it’s called?

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    • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Makes sense and I totally understand you. I am glad you have found a way to help processing words faster and you can do with your life whatever pleases you.

      I still hate the font (from a design perspective).

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    • kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Changing font on Android (AOSP/Google) nowadays is not possible.
      You need to root your device for something as simple as this.

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• madjo@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Those poor girls…

  We need way more than just pitchforks. These monsters need to feel the same type of abuse they inflicted on their victims.

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• kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s not something a country just moves on from

  It looks like half of the nation does not care, though. We have got used to the extreme, and won’t react any more.

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• minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Need more than sentiments to make anything happen. I don’t know what that is but I hope someone figures it out because if we stand by and do nothing about this despite the absolutely horrific accounts being known, then we as a species deserve extinction. People have no lack of desire or will or fury or want for justice in this, we have no direction for any of those things because we’ve been systematically disempower our entire lives.

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