Comment on Trigger warning - This Epstein stuff is making me sick...
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 day agoI’m fucken sorry, who has the only known example of a global paedophile ring implicating nearly all of its leaders? This is fucking unprecendented. No need to take it personally unless you are a capitalist.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Most organized crime in every nation practices sex trafficking, rape, prostitution and slavery of one kind or another. From the Yakuza to the Mexican cartels. It is unprecedented, it’s simply very visible. If you think Putin and his oligarchs or the Saudi royals, for example, don’t have similar organized immorality, then you’re naive.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
None of those are global, and if the saudis are anywhere they’re probably also in the files which would just make that part of the same capitalist carnal club. I don’t see President Xi, or many non-US aligned leaders in here. Its not you or I, why are you so offended?
minorkeys@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
The Catholic Church and organized crime are both global…if you don’t even know that, why am I bothering with you?
Saudis are perfectly capable of maintaining their own network as they do their systems of slavery. Epstein was certainly not the only network like this, either.
You’re just sound like an anti West troll, spreading propaganda.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 17 hours ago
You sound like a westoid troll, “our government is doing it so can you imagine what the rest of the world is doing!? Omg!”
greenbit@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Competing networks, territorial splits. It’s visible in the files that this is a global thing and we see only the tip of an iceberg with one example group
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
I wonder what came first, the alignment of the current axes of power, or the elite pedophile gang rings that operate within them.
novibe@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
Nope, it’s very clear in the files they hated Xi, Castro and communism and spoke of them as explicit deterrents to their operations.
hector@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Good points. However a big difference here is that this organized debauchery and perversions is weaponized to blackmail the most powerful countries in the world into supporting fascists in a small little country to do unspeakable things, that is also exporting that fascism to those home countries.
So the blackmail angle, to ultimately destroy the liberal democracies that these countries are built on, makes it a little different.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Blackmail definitely isn’t unique to this situation. The US has specific provisions for conflicts of interest to safeguard against this kind of blackmail because they know it happens. MAGA simply ignore it all and was allowed to. Power finds a way and blackmail is as old as politics.
hector@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
I am sure it’s not unique, do we have any more historical examples we can point to though? All I have is the borgia pope.
novibe@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
The files do mention Putin, as being a deterrent to their operations in Russia. And they hated Xi and Castro. Seems like SOME leaders and powerful people are not sex trafficking pedos 🤷♂️
minorkeys@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Or they prevented competition. Their resistance is not necessarily a sign of being better. Putin’s soldiers in Ukraine are doing horrific things, his KGB does horrific things, Russian Mercs in Africa do horrific things. Well never know the exact details so there’s no way to know.
novibe@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
You say that with no evidence of anything. Dude do you actually think Russia is more advanced than the US in its intelligence? Do you think Putin would be able to hide a network like this from the CIA, who wouldn’t use it against him? You’re just pulling stuff out of your ass, motivated entirely by russiophobia.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
The thing is those are criminals.
This is a whole country’s government.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Of criminals.