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Homeland Security has reportedly sent out hundreds of subpoenas to identify ICE critics online

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/homeland-security-has-reportedly-sent-out-hundreds-of-subpoenas-to-identify-ice-critics-online-135245457.html

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  • RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    After years and years of complaining about ‘censorship online’ they’re gonna start arresting people for what they say online.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was always projection. They accuse their enemies of what they themselves wanted to do.

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, what will happen is they’ll use an LLM to analyze the data.

      The LLM will falsely tag millions of people.

      There will be some notable wrong arrests, and then six months later those people, after having their lives ruined, will sell their stories.

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      • RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And if it makes you feel better, consider how many contexts the word ‘Ice’ can be used in.

        Just for the record, I really don’t like ice. It’s cold, slippery and wet. And people ruin perfectly nice whiskeys by overdoing the ice in them.

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    • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They only ever cared about r words and n words and f words. Having actual moral convictions requires a conscience

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    • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Of course. All of that was to get people used to it.

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    • PlexSheep@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fascists have no values. They say whatever they want to further their objectives.

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      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This. All arguments are transient as long as they win. They’ll even be for taking firearms as long as it left mostly “da libs” disarmed.

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    • bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gotta have lists ready for when the new larger camps are open. Haha?

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    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Rules for thee, not for me.

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  • MrTastySaganaki@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s the scary part! To what degree do you have to be anti-ice to get on their radar?! Protester? Shit talker? Meme sharer?

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The only way to stand up to fascism is with solidarity in numbers. So don’t let the Nazi ICE thugs intimidate us out of criticizing their pathetic white supremacist ways.

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      • sparkles@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right? I said early on the unmarked ones should be treated as kidnappers bc we are drilled to not let unidentified people take us to a second location. Too much?

        Or call the real authorities when they’re sniffing around schools and make a real scene because that’s a fiduciary duty.

        Idk I’ve seen people say much worse but these are very sensitive individuals.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s all encompassing. You are just looking at the subset that homeland security is working with in regards to immigration, but they are feeding all information into models for ai to run threat detection, and otherwise create social scores, palantir and their ilk being the ones doing the scores.

        Whatever half baked conclusions they come up with, get promulgated to different agencies, and in time and perhaps already to private ones. Not attributed, and secret, you will never know the information was sent from them, and so won’t ever be able to challenge it. In time, bank loans, how businesses treat you, digital price tags you personally are served with, police treatment and information on lein networks, prosecutorial aggressivity towards you, how much the judges are led to hate you, and so forth, will all be influenced by these secret social scores.

        Not just in the US either, the UK is ahead of us, Aussies are well on their way too. Europe is trying to bring the trojan horses of age checks and chatcontrol inside the gates of liberal democracies for this purpose. They want to id every account on every ip with faces and id, and run everything said or done, or looked at, along with all the video and audio of you from all sources, through these palantir type ai programs, off of these huge databases also held by people like thiel, but also the government and others, with that information about everyone, however obtained.

        The 4th doesn’t apply according to our courts, they let private interests spy on us, then buy the information from those data brokers. The feds just streamlined it, a one stop shop to buy all of the data, and then distribute it to agencies, because they had been buying the same tranches of data through different agencies before that.

        We really need to reject this locking the internet down, not the least as the gatekeepers are literally Epstein pals and conspirators. The fucking antichrist is the one chosen to decide winners and losers in life, peter thiel, that now has not only all the information of his own data banks, but all the data from every federal agency exported from doge, which he controlled. Musk was just the front man. If information is power, they already have too much. We need to forcefully reject these pushes. Rejecting corporate websites that bow down to these interests is a good start.

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    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      probably the ones that will be the best targets for being made an example of

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      • uberdroog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They will start with whoever they can and won’t stop until made to do so. Strap in and up.

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    • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly. They can target anyone.

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    • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would guess it’s probably focused on ones are prosecutable as threats. That would be enough for it to not be protected as free speech.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “threats” it can be anything and anyone.

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’re ignoring the law though. They’ll go after whoever they feel like attacking.

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  • Stupidmanager@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck ICE and the little dick Donald Trump. Arrest everyone with proven ties to epstine, and destroy the checkbooks of every single billionaire by taxing them.

    Signed pretty much EVERY FUCKING MENTALLY SANE AMERICAN.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Signed pretty much EVERY FUCKING MENTALLY SANE AMERICAN.

      So like… About a third of the country?

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      • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Less than a tenth of the country

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      BuT ThAt WoUlD CoLlAPsE tHe GoVerMent

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  • BlackPenguins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And this is why you push back on sites that require IDs.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would love journalists to rake discord over the coals for this and have them explain exactly how they think that this mentality is acceptable in the current political climate. Of course they won’t because journalism is dead these days.

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    • segabased@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Speaking of, what’s the open alternative to discord? If there is one that is

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      • HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fluxer and Element

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  • ulkesh@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t have a wide audience, I’m just a speck in a sea of the internet.

    But here you go, DHS. FUCK ICE. FUCK THEIR FASCISM AND AUTHORITARIAN BULLSHIT. FUCK THEIR COWARDICE. FUCK EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM.

    Please. I dare you to subpoena me.

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    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      User was subpoenaed for this post

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  • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The administration of overly sensitive pussy ass snowflakes. DHS and ICE can lick my ass and suck my nuts.

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    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you’re over 18, your too old for them.

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      • popekingjoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh shit good point. I’m almost 40.

        Thankfully I don’t have kids.

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    • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They can also lick my taint, eat my shit, and drink my piss.

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  • ieatpwns@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck ICE

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    • _wizard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stand-up. Fight back.

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  • KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I ain’t readin’ all of DAT

    Fuck ICE

    Free Palestine

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      on a sidenote, the company behind DISCORDS age verification, and other online verfication was PALINTIR .

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      • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Meaning Palantir also catalogs all your Discord chats.

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  • Willoughby@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Come get me you Russian-cum-guzzling pieces of nazi shit.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Israel first.

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  • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    image

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  • einlander@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And what crime are they commiting?

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Speaking the truth about the fascists in power.

      Laws don’t matter anymore, there is no more order. They are not being followed, and the ones used to hard you are being made up.

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    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anti fascism

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    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Woke liberal commie antifa terrorism”

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  • RoubaixRider@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Read about this today and decided Reddit can fuck itself, after being told about Lemmy from a Reddit user. Fuck the oligarchy.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Reddit was already bad enough before they went public. Going public makes a company so much less trustworthy, and so much more beholden to government and other big business over their own protection of their users and products to grow their platform.

      Partially it happens at the moment when a company’s growth is rather saturated and they decide to maximize revenue, the entire corporate internet reached that point in the last 5 years really, the enshitification.

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    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Welcome to Lemmy!

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  • theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t you know criticizing government action is terrorism?

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    • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Terrorism is going to become so hot this year.

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    • r0ertel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I read a speculation somewhere that DHS want to declare all opposition to their activities as domestic terrorists and then remove their right to vote. There have been multiple articles detailing how the people who follow agents around and report their location are served papers later declaring them to be domestic terrorists and then they are placed on a no fly list. I’m sure more is to come. Reportedly, all the agents use facial recognition cameras to sweep the crowds for logging in a database, but another report suggests that the recognition part isn’t working so well.

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      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I doubt they care about how many false positives they get.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        probably using AI to do it too. i think some states already try to use facial recognition on red light cameras.

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      • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All while their representatives testifying to congress claimed there is no database of americans opposing ice. We all know there is, one of the police told the protesters they were on it and to have fun with that as well.

        We need consequences for these guys lying to congress like that. Whoever that was just a few days ago should be forced out. He can’t claim ignorance, or litigate the definition of database, he knows he lied, we know he lied.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So, from Russia - let’s see how people in your country of “dignity and culture to resist oppression and deep institutions” will pass through that future. From someone “not protesting enough” and “feeding the regime with my taxes” and “feeling fine when Ukrainians suffer” (technically true, except might not be the only thing true).

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  • DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And yet the “I don’t care that they gather data on me, I have nothing to hide” crowd is still clueless

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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll die for my right to call ICE gestapo and Trump a Nazi.

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  • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck ICE. They should all be tried and put away forever. Come get me in Canada, you fucks.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    remind people, that subpeonas arnt Legal warrants by the courts, its and intimidaiton letter by a court officer, which is apparently very different an actual warrant or an order.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s “administrative warrants” so it’s not even a court officer. It’s the police calling something a warrant that is a request by law enforcement to get the information. No judges, no courts are involved as I understand it.

      This way though it sounds like they had to comply. Reddit did mostly comply by the way.

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  • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck ICE.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d rather not. They probably don’t even wash their ass.

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      • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, they seem to be that kind of guys. Inbreds from Baaaable belt.

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  • whelk@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I make it easy, I sit right out in the open by my sign playing songs from subversive pro terrorist media like Disney’s Robin Hood

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    lol 90% of the people in my city hate ICE with a burning passion.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    hey ICE, I’ve got a First Amendment message for you idiots.

    #fuck off

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  • betanumerus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Born with free speech and no one gets to change that deal.

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  • FauxPseudo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    What happens when Dems take back power? The people okay with with this are going to instantly flip the moment the government comes after them the same way. But those people never think about how something can be used against them. They only care if it is a tool that can help them now.

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  • kalkulat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    "Reportedly.’

    That headline may be true. Or maybe it was released by ‘ICE-helpers’ trying to get people to stop all of the well-deserved harsh criticism. By now that’s hundreds of millions of names to go through. Maybe that will help them burn through their remaining funds faster.

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  • merdaverse@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m sure tech companies will fight really hard to protect their users from a fascist government /s

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Believe it or not Im not hiding all that much. Oh man though the full face sunglasses are kinda awesome. Great winter weather alternative to a face mask. Combine it with a nice winter jacket type hood and it blocks the wind rom your whole face. Im thinking it might be nice at the pool to because I find my face is the most sensitive part of my body for sunburn.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does lemmy.world have a warrant canary? Being hosted in Germany, will it respond to American subpoenas? And what about other prominent instances?

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  • DevotedShitStain69@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Subpoena deez nuts ice pussies, I swear they make twinks look like alpha males compared to those fucks.

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  • Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am an illegal immigrant of the USA and ICE will never find me or my family 🙂

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How long until they all end up in concentration camps?

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