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Submitted 2 months ago by violet08@lemmy.today to [deleted]
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michaelalf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
sundray@lemmus.org 2 months ago
The genie is out of the bottle, but at some point, LLM/image-gen providers are going to have to raise prices for their services. While this won’t do anything to stop self-hosters, it might cut down on the number of casual users just a tiny bit. At least I hope it will!
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 months ago
The genie is out of the bottle
This is a lot more like Pandora’s Box - all the evils have been let loose.
474D@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Unfortunately realistic image gen can already be done on local consumer hardware at the cost of additional rendering time. The cat is out of the bag. And while local video gen is pretty easy to spot, the models just keep getting faster and better at a scary rate.
sundray@lemmus.org 2 months ago
Oh definitely. But setting up local solutions requires enough time, effort, know-how, and hardware that’s getting more expensive by the minute, meaning that a lot of regular Joe & Jane Blows who got used to free ad-supported options or cheap pay-to-play services might drop out of the game.
Of course, anyone sufficiently motivated to generate images/video at scale is already building out their infrastructure regardless of cost since, presumably, they are going to be state-actors or mercenary influence operations.
I wonder where it would leave the millions of Facebook/Twitter social media engagement-farmers, once their marginal costs start to skyrocket.
apftwb@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My concern is that “self hosters” in this context are state actors with their own data centers.
Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Glad to be here, witnessing the death of the internet as we know it here with you all. I’m pretty sure most of you are real so let’s enjoy the show together before we all go outside again!
As the internet lay dying I wondered if I should be crying A great gift to mankind is losing it’s mind
Should we should stay? Say the friends we made along the way
Who are we without web? But who, is the web without the we?
Even as we grief and leave
Remember.
There is no web without the we And where we go the web will be
toynbee@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Are you real?
Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Yes AI is utter shite at poetry. Its the only proof of humanity I can convey over text except for swearing to show that I’m not a sterile soulless corporate autocomplete taking the space of valuable human interaction.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m not real
I’m a figment of your imagination
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Gone like Geocities.
Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Yes it sort of feels like online ecosystem collapse. Between all the insincerity, ads and slop. Very few online places feel alive :(
Cargon@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The Great Unpluggening!
I think the Internet will persist, but the public spaces on the Internet will ba treated like people treat the tabloid magazines at the grocery store checkout. Unused and largely ridiculed.
I expect invite-only microcommunities will thrive though.
Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
You are right my friend. But i’m afraid that this might be at odds with annonimity online. These micro communities might look a lot like this, just more restrictive on the user registration side.
I can imagine that we may have a federated community of human verified forums. Where you have to go to the computer club at least once to get a forum account.
Anyways, the death of online truth and authenticity gives us a tremendous opportunity to reinvent what online contact should look like. But inevitably, it will be more outside and less online I think.
enphurgen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There was a brief window before this mess where we used to be unsure if things were cake or not, I long for those simpler times.
MadBits@europe.pub 2 months ago
It was all a test all along.
apftwb@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Take a bit out of a person to see if they are made of linear algebra.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Do you really think there’s a 50 foot tall transparent cow out there?
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Of course there’s not a transparent cow out there. But there is a giant blue ox.
bampop@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s where you’re wrong. The cow is real but you can’t see it because it has 0% opacity. There’s not many “unexplained” events that still don’t make sense when you know there’s a transparent cow out there somewhere
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Of course not. It’d cold outside. I brought him inside.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Thanks
burgermeister@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Oh it’s gonna be
MacaqueAndCheese@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
You know I used to think ai was pretty cool because I read a lot of sci-fi and in most sci-fi ai is a very useful tool but now that I’ve been living in reality for a good 2 years I’ve noticed that maybe this ai just isn’t very nice. It’s like that time I meet weird ai Yankovic and thought it was the real Weird Al but all he did was regurgitate edgy talking points and send me videos of giant boobed women dancing.
Needless to say, Bob Barker was pretty cool.
arudesalad@piefed.ca 2 months ago
Ai IS cool. LLMs and ai art and most forms of generative ai ISN’T cool.
One of my favourite examples of ai being capable of doing good when it isn’t being controlled by a trillion dollar bubble is alpha fold
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Wait till your phone start generating fake photos of your past to gaslight you
Hell, any digital journals you keep could be a fake one replaced by AI
Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Wait are you saying i wasnt holding Flamin’ Hot Cheetos™ right after my childs birth?
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
You weren’t yet
Soon you will have been
apftwb@lemmy.world 2 months ago
STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS
Randelung@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Pretty crazy there’s no PKI in place to verify photos, videos, or text. We just need apps to verify signatures and tell users about the origin. Memes can remain unsigned, but veritable information should always be traceable to a source.
E.g. I’m more inclined to believe a video sourced by AP (sent to me by whomever) than one posted by the white house twitter without signature.
porkloin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s a really good and reasonable idea, which is why I’m absolutely sure it will never happen 😢
glibg@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Just turn away from your phone screen and go outside. There is an entire non-AI world to explore and steward.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve been getting back into my favorite childhood TV shows and finding some good library books. No AI slop there. 🙂
glibg@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I love the library too! I’m always happy when I’m in there.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is why I accept everything as true.
vogi@piefed.social 2 months ago
ye, worst outcome would be that you compliment a little baby whos to stupid to have their own thoughts on their “work”. but who really cares about them, it is still better to falsely accusing an actual artist of using ai.
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There could be two major attacks.
First is pricing realism. Just like many pre-IPO products, it’s trying to gain interest. Someday, it has to make money, meaning everyone with a cheap/cheesy idea will need to pay for it.
The second is legislative attacks related to copyright infringement. I’d see it as a progressive legislator asking them for lists of permission from every image author they’ve grabbed from. Inevitably, they profess “We don’t have that!” And the model is blocked. Admittedly, that is not something I see happening soon, but it’s something to hope for.
ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Then don’t
sheetzoos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They don’t want solutions, they just want to be upset!
ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 months ago
No, they want to be seen to be upset. It’s performative hate and ignorance
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Just don’t question it, why bother? :3
Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Can you feel it? You won’t be able to tell soon and that means you’ll just need to plug in like the Matrix. Then it won’t matter right? Everything will be constructed. While the billionaires play in the real world. You’ll be plugged in but you’ll be a billionaire in your own world. You’ll have the same thoughts, feelings, experiences except they will be “fake”. You just better hope that no one turns your shit off, otherwise reality is hell.
Rooster326@programming.dev 2 months ago
Or you know unplug. Cottage core.
usernameusername@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Is this AI?
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Way i see it. If i can’t tell, it don’t matter
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
We’ve been doing it for decades with photoshop.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
one of the reasons for all the visual LLM garbage is because it’s good enough to make you question, and by questioning they know it’s causing an unnecessary stress. Eat the slop and enjoy it. Fighting it won’t stop it.
It’s insidious and makes us question everything now.
Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Isn’t that the plot of Inception?
ikidd@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m more of a Simmental than a Hereford, but the sentiment’s spot on.
FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Obligatory “Mood”
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Chatters…
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re saying that as if it was a long time…
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I felt like this after the Elon Musk email thing
pewpew@feddit.it 2 months ago
The bubble could pop anytime now
m3t00@lemmy.world 2 months ago
stop looking at it
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 months ago
NIRATIAS (nothing is real and this is a simulation)
cattywampas@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Go outside and you won’t have to ask.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Me going outside:
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Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
People are just as fake as AI
jared@mander.xyz 2 months ago
The animals and plants are pretty cool.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
ai is false so much because it’s just pulling all the nonsense garbage created by humans, and moreso corporations. it doesn’t think, it just regurgitates garbage on the web and pushes it as factual.
all those meme images, and one liners and make believe stories that are just making fun or stuff when we (typically) know it’s sarcasm/false etc…, yeah… ai don’t care - that’s just facts to it and presents it as such.
ai could have been amazing, if the internet wasn’t riddled with jokes, memes, false info etc etc etc but here we are.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
If it fakes people then it’s fake^2^
marcos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Very few things are as fake as AI… and my best guess is most of them frequent some national Congress building.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Some. Many, if not most, are just flawed human beings.
I don’t enjoy this “everyone sucks” mentality you see online a lot.
Godric@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The sea peoples were right, urbanization was a mistake, we must return to monke