The title of the article is very misleading. Microsoft has not said they’ll be removing AI features already deployed on Windows. All it says is they’re reevaluating AI features going forward and streamlining the experience whatever that means. It sounds like they’re looking to rename unpopular unwanted feature like Recall instead of scrapping it. The whole thing is just a PR move to placate the disgruntled masses. Also they said nothing about intrusive ads, telemetry, or rapidly declining stability of overall system. Recent update literally broke windows explorer, task bar and start menu. One thing for certain, Microsoft will not stop using Copilot to develop their software in house. That would be admitting Ai tools are useless and that would sink Microsoft stock even further than it already has.
You won: Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift
Submitted 2 weeks ago by baatliwala@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
totesmygoat@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
You mean a company founded on lies, by a good friend of Epstein, is misleading the public! It’s not like he’s trying to treat us for his std…
riskable@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
One thing for certain, Microsoft will not stop using Copilot to develop their software in house.
You’re wrong, but I think you’ll be OK with that because the reality of the situation is actually hilarious:
theverge.com/…/microsoft-claude-code-anthropic-pa…
“Turns out Copilot sucks so let’s just use our competitor’s superior product but that’s no reason we can’t keep foisting the inferior garbage on the masses!”
Kissaki@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Honestly it’s good engineering practice to not be stuck in your own product.
You want them to be using only copilot?
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Why would anyone suddenly trust Microslop? Trust is gone.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s amazing that America somehow is destroying trust in itself from so many different directions right now, almost seems like a planned demolition, but I think it’s more of a chaotic tragedy of errors and horrible judgement.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
It was absolutely planned, if not expressly planned for destroying trust. Planned for maximizing revenue, minimizing costs, for oppressing and dividing the population to exploit them and prevent a challenge to their corrupt systems, and so forth.
orclev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s not the whole country, it’s the perfect storm of the absolute worst people who spent the last few decades working to seize power combined with the death throws of late stage capitalism. The political and economic elite in America (and most other countries) have merged and corrupted each other beyond redemption, but the ultra capitalist systems of the US means there are few if any effective checks to their power. In a properly functioning country the government checks the power of corporations via regulations and laws and in turn is checked by the will of the public but in the US the incessant corporate propaganda has convinced a depressingly large chunk of the population that government regulations are inherently bad and that everything works better when corporations are free to do whatever they want. That combined with the absolutely blatant bribery and corruption in US politics means that corporations control the US government rather than the other way around.
The whole thing worked for a little while while the corporations were at least pretending to somewhat care about consumers and things like anti-monopoly regulations, but now that Trump has shown the government is very loudly and publicly for sale to the highest bidder they’ve all gone mask off and are just doing whatever they want. The problem of course is that they’re also run by morons that either don’t see the cliff they’re all collectively racing towards or just don’t care because they’re planning to bail out with all the profits while the greater US economy burns.
Ultimately this is the sprouting of the seed that was planted back in the 50s from an amalgam of the cold war anti-communism propaganda and the latent racism that was never properly dealt with following the civil war.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
america is fine. the problem is the US.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The same reason they would any year.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
History shows Americans will.
They trusted Microsoft after they were successfully sued by a DoJ (when it used to investigate corruption and monopoloes) for being dicks, but David boies rejected breaking up the company in 2001.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Next month they’ll quietly add these “features” as background services under a generic name.
snooggums@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
As part of a security update!
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Another task for “Feedback Hub.”
ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Windows Personal Assistant Control (WPA Supplicant)” - don’t forget you need the WPA supplicant enabled to connect to the network!
oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
WPA stands for “WiFi Protected Access”.
ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As usual with all of these companies: only believe when you see the changes
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As usual with any company, fuck em! They only care about bleeding you of your wealth, not making the world a better place. They can eat shit and die.
banazir@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Won? They will do it again. The only winning move is not to play their game. Choose Free Software.
poopkins@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Genuine question: What do you recommend? I want to replace Windows 10 on a 8-year-old midrange laptop with something that works reasonably well in terms of performance with a connected 4K monitor.
I’ve already tried Ubuntu, but unfortunately the experience has been marred by bugs such as poor performance, visual glitches, windows jumping around when attempting to move them, and DPI settings not being able to be applied per screen.
IzzuThug@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Linux is definitely the route. A lot of people use Mint or Ubuntu. But they are usually running out of date drivers.
I’d recommend looking into distros based on Fedora Workstation. It stays up to date but not as much as Arch so that it’s stable.
My recommendation is any of the Universal Blue images that fit your need. They are based off of the Fedora Atomic image with added quality of life features.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve had more luck with Mint, thanks to its Windows-adjacent GUI and user-friendly on ramp. Still encountered a few issues (a couple of peripherals that didn’t support Linux drivers). But on the whole, it’s improved system performance over Win10 and synced smoothly with my workstation.
banazir@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I can’t say I’ve had those issues myself, so my recommendation may not be valid in your case. I’d say maybe give Fedora with KDE Plasma a try, and try switching between X11 and Wayland sessions if issues persist.
I personally don’t like Ubuntu, but that’s mostly because of Canonical making the occasional sketchy decision.
On the whole, distro choice doesn’t matter quite as much these days, as most distros should work fine out of the box. Whatever issues you have should technically be solvable with a bit of troubleshooting.
Sometimes Linux just doesn’t play well with your setup. Good luck, and I hope you find something that works for you!
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am more impressed you got windows 10 to work well on 8 year old computers ngl. I had an HP pavillion around that age and it had torturingly low startup speed.
Definetely try mint-cinnamon and mint-xfce4, latter one uses xfce4 which has very good performance.
A lot of experienced users will find linux run without bugs for them but that’s because it’s an OS that gets better as you learn more.
In my case battery life 2 hours on windows and 1.5 hours on linux. But once I past the skill-curve I tweaked it to be 6 hours because I knew how to find what caused the problem and fix it.
Either that or there is the IT-guy effect going on where once an experienced user shows up the aura just makes computers work normal again lmao.
antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl 2 weeks ago
Nobody has won, they’re just going to the store to get some lube…
nailbar@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I won. I ditched Windows conpletely.
antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl 2 weeks ago
Alright, I’ll give you that… Welcome!
RacerX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Modern corpo playbook.
- Go too far with something wildly unpopular on purpose
- Everyone complains
- Dial it back slightly
- "We won!"
whereIsTamara@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
Trumpism.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“See, microsoft DOES care!”
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
we did it, reddit!
aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My first thought exactly
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They keep claiming that and then proceeding anyways with maybe a short period of backtracking. I’ll believe them when they’ve actually stayed backed off until the end of the ai bs. That said I’m never going back. I switched to Linux over 2 years ago in part because of the initial recall scandal.
dustman0192@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Same here. Switched to Mint, now on Fedora. I’ve gotten used to the ecosystem and I much prefer it to Windows. Will never go back now.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah this is what these companies do every time they get some heat. They never actually listen and fix their shit, they just back off and wait a couple of months until people are outraged about something else, then add it back in when they think nobody’s looking. Rinse and repeat until everyone’s too sick of hearing about it/tired of fighting it to continue.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I switched when XP came out. Microsoft started enshitifying then and never stopped.
electronVolt@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I am kinda glad they went to shit so quickly. If it were slow, I probably would never have gone fully Linux. Now, I have all 5 of my machines free of corporate spyware. I am having fun again configuring and learning. Thanks microslop! I needed the push.
Bosht@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Which distro has been working well for you? So for I have Mint and Bazzite on my list to try. Also do you have any pointers?
Pofski@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m using mint and loving the experience so far. My kids find it easy to use and even my wife, who was a bit worried having to switch to a new environment, came to realise that it works just as well if not better then windows.
mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Fedora workstation can be a real nice no trouble install.
Personally love to add pop-shell extension to GNOME - if you use big monitors, it’s an awesome autotiler.
Kangy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I’m using CachyOS currently. It’s fast, so far stable and suits me.
Best pointer I can give you loads them all onto a USB with Ventoy and test them all on the live environment. What works for others may not work for you so go ham, break shit and have fun while exploring
electronVolt@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I use Mint on my laptops and I know it is not for everyone, but I started with Debian stable on my gaming desktop with an ARC B580 and upgraded the kernel, installed drivers, and added packages one at a time so I could see the difference. Debian stable on my server for many years, so I have some experience.
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift” For Now.
Give them 6-8 months, they’ll shove it back in quietly in a way you can’t see it happening as easily.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Absolutely.
This just means “We pushed our crap too fast and people noticed, so we’re letting things cool off slightly to quiet down the critics, and next time we’ll boil the frog more slowly.”
toynbee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think you’ve just neatly summarized, uh …
… The world (such as we’ve incentivized it, anyway).
Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yeah they will recall their l plan soon enough
rumba@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
ba-da-tisss
love it
FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The only thing they’re rethinking is how to repackage this so people accept it. They learned a lot from this, but I promise you it wasn’t the right lesson.
user28282912@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Prolific cannibal promises to review their choice in seasonings to be more tactful as they continue to feast on PC users’ privacy, freedom and last scraps of digital dignity on a global scale.
I am sure that this empty promise of change has everything to do with their user empathy and absolutely nothing to do with their recent financial results which indicated how hollow their AI-slop-bullshit revenue growth was last quarter.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Skill glad I switched to Linux gaming lol
Jaysyn@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
LOL, I won when I installed Mint.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Cheers
FireWire400@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Understand that they’re not doing this because of user feedback; they’re doing this because shareholders got cold feet about the whole thing after the backlash (so indirectly it’s still down to user feedback, but not really)
tekato@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
According to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans
Might as well get your information from psychedelic mushrooms.
MrRandom@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Stop using Windows any, it’s a US company that’s too large.
Katana314@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I mean by that logic, stop using Steam. It’s (marginally) possible for a company to get big, and not do terrible things. Just keep an eye on them and don’t become fully reliant on them.
MrRandom@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
And we should be wary of steam, or keep at least an eye out for dark patterns. Fortunately Steam is doesn’t have to listen to shareholders, this might be a reason why they don’t do those things, but that could all change if Gabe isn’t there anymore.
trslim@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I haven’t won until Microslop is a company that is used in past tense.
Auth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thats bad actually, the free advertising to linux was a good thing. Now Windows users will slip back into apathy.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Too late. I’ve already left. Never again.
scala@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Forever will be microslop. Scaling back doesn’t mean removing. It’s still essentially malware.
deliriousdreams@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
We didn't win until I can remove it all from my computer.
gerryflap@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Too little too late. I’m already over to Linux now. Shit’s been going downhill even before this whole AI craze went off the rails. I hope Microsoft Windows crashes and burns
Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I read “a major shit”
TipRing@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It mostly looks like a mild slow down of user-facing release and rebrand of unpopular features.
It is not a retreat. The marketing team is just trying to figure out how to reframe things that caused public backlash.
rozodru@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I wouldn’t call this a victory. I’d call this a “re-evaluation”. they’ve invested way too much into AI/LLMs to simply drop it because users don’t like any of it. They’re simply going to pivot and come at this shit from a different angle.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I won when I ditched windows.
Frozentea725@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Yeah, it a temporary measure due to people leaving. Microsoft will not change. Linux is far better
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I have one gaming PC and it’s on windows 10 till kike October or so of this year when security updates go away. Waiting to see if steam OS ifficially drops for PC so I don’t have to switch OS more than once. Already have it running on and processor and GPU for an easy Linux switch, and been running Linux on my laptop for a while now.
GarbadgeGoober@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Best comment.
I am very thankful to Microsoft, without them I wouldn’t have made the switch to Linux.
I really loving it. So much better, faster and powerful + no Spying.
cabbage@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
When I started using Linux in 2009 it had around 0.6 percent market share on desktop. Windows had 95%.
Today Windows is measured below 68%, and Linux has been measured above 4% by statcounter.com.
These things move faster the more people make the change. Linux only reached 1% in 2013, 2% in 2021, 3% in 2023, and 4% was somehow first measured already in 2024. For every single person making the switch it becomes easier for others to do the same, and companies consider Linux support to be a little bit more important. One can only wonder at which percentage of market share it will be offered as a mainstream alternative when buying a new computer, but it seems pretty clear that we’re getting there.
I guess my point is that we all won when you ditched Windows. Thanks for that.
glimse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
10% market share is when I expect it to be impossible to ignore and I think we’re gonna get there fast like you alluded to.
But…mainly for games. The corporate crowd will stay on Windows because they benefit from propping up other corporations. PC/laptop manufacturers will still push Windows for the same reason
mech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
You can buy laptops with pre-installed Linux at Germany’s biggest computer retailer now.
uienia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It will be really interesting to see the figures at the end of 2026, when Windows 10 has truly reached end of life, and a whole bunch of people are going to be forced to choose.
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I wish you were right, but that growth does not appear fast nor steady.
BurgerBaron@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Yup too late I’m never coming back.
uienia@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I switched to Linux in December, and it was a remarkable feeling. I don’t think I had really noticed how oppressive or depressive Windows had become (and I hadn’t even switched to Win 11, just using win 10), or how much I was actually personally affected by, but that feeling of suddenly being free when I booted up my linux was quite surprising and exhilarating.
It was like a massive weight had been lifted off of my shoulders.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I won when I ditched your mom.
-Dad.