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Wine 11 runs Windows apps in Linux and macOS better than ever

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨throws_lemy@lemmy.nz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/15/wine_11_arrives_faster_and/

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    i would hope every new version of wine runs windows apps in linux and mac better than ever.

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Patch notes: “Made the app a little worse just to keep things interesting.”

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      • Dagnet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That’s the Microsoft strategy, but they forgot to make it better sometimes too

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      • whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Wine 1.1, now with AI integration

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    • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      At this point, and given the current state of Proton (👍) and the current state of Windows (👎), the question should be, “Does the new version of Wine run Windows apps better than Windows?”

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      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        With some apps/games it definitely feels like ir does. Would love to see someone dedicated do proper Wine vs windows benchmarks!

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      • blaue_Fledermaus@olio.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’ve managed to run some old games on Linux with Bottles/Wine that didn’t work on Windows anymore.

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      • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yes. It can run classic gaming that windows outright refuses to run. Wild

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yes. Especially if said application was developed before 2010.

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      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I misread the title at first and I genuinely thought that’s what this article was about.

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      • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Proton works nicely in steam

        Non steam games is an entirely different complicated issue (for some games)

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    • huquad@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “Fastest iphone ever!” Yea I’d sure hope so being that it’s new and all

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    • demonsword@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      on average that’s the expected outcome, but sometimes there’s a regression here and there for specific apps

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    • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The next headline is going to be that they run better in wine than in windows.

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    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah, I think that’s the entire point of having a new version lol

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    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Bugs and forced regressions?

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  • Zagorath@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I misread that as “Win 11 runs Linux and macOS apps better than ever” and was ready to sarcastically point out that Linux runs Linux apps better too.

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    • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Contrarily, Win 11 does run Windows apps worse than ever

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  • hogmomma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I mean, isn’t that kinda the goal…?

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  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ooh, those are some lovely features. If only Nvidia hadn’t dropped support for 10xx cards as per 590.xx locking me on kernel 6.12, I might even have been able to enjoy using ntsync!

    (Fuck Nvidia)

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    • Olap@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      580xx on arch forever I presume then. Gonna be rough in a few years

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      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Think Nouveau will catch up by then?

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      • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yup :(

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  • criticon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The only thing I need to run on windows now is for H&R block tax software. I wonder if I can try it with wine but I’m afraid of losing the activation license

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    • moonshadow@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applica…

      Looks like not great/no one has tried for a few years. I say give it a shot (far from tax season) and report back!

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I guess this isn’t really even “news” to Linux gamers now, but once in a while it’s nice to make an article about what constant progress has happened in a certain sphere. Certainly many people staying on Windows out of inertia blinked and missed it.

    My fervent hope is that, someday in the future, people can build a gaming PC and just forego Windows to save $100.

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  • CelloMike@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If anyone has experience in running Fusion 360 on wine plz shout up, that’s the last thing I need to work out before switching to Zorin…

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    • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s better with something like Winboat (virtualized windows container) within your OS than something like Wine. This is the same case for other “We don’t support Linux officially because fuck you” productivity applications like Adobe’s suite.

      Personally, I moved from Fusion360 to FreeCAD instead, but I haven’t heard anything negative about the Winboat method.

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      • _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fusion works flawlessly for me in winapps (and I’m sure winboat), but it is s-l-o-w. I probably need to figure out GPU passthrough and it might be bearable… But I haven’t had much time to dedicate figuring it out.

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      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Do you have any good resources for learning FreeCAD coming from Fusion 360? I’ve taken a couple runs at it but it’s just not clicking for me. Feels like I’m trying to operate Fusion with my feet every time I try to use it.

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    • SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There’s a couple of Lutris scripts, but the one that kinda worked for me was this github.com/…/Autodesk-Fusion-360-for-Linux/

      Depending on what you’re doing, check out Freecad. It’s still a bit buggy but ever since it hit 1.0 it’s been a lot better, and it runs natively on Linux

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      • CelloMike@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah maybe this is the push to finally learn freecad!

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    • Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Is there some reason you haven’t tried it yourself?

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      • CelloMike@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I only have one machine, so I wanna be confident it’ll work before messing around with new OSes

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  • ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I am just hoping the Steam Frame provides the foundation so that in the years to come I can get off Windows for VR development. Feel trapped right now.

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  • BaraCoded@literature.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Can it run FLstudio?

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    • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It can with the addition of WineASIO, but unless this release has focused on fixes for this setup (which it may have done!), we’re still not ready.

      But I tried during the summer (albeit with Ableton rather than FL) and it’s still quite high latency which turns into weird noise and artifacting if I try reducing the buffer size (with much larger buffers than I typically use on windows).

      YABridge is getting better though, this time around I got a few more of my VSTs working, I still have zero luck with any of the VSTs with licenses that I have on my iLok key.

      I can’t wait for the day the guys working on this finally crack pro audio properly, it’s literally the only reason I still run windows on my desktop.

      And since every time I mention this problem, I end up having to say this in a reply to someone: To anyone suggesting I don’t use Ableton or my VSTs that don’t work (of which there are hundreds), I’ve got two decades of Ableton projects that I can open up in windows and pretty much carry on working on it as if I created it yesterday. That’s before going into the fact I’ve spent a lot of money over the years on licences for this stuff, so being able to continue using it is more important to me than my operating system choice. Until I can do the same in Linux it’s gonna have to be a dual boot situation.

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      • whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Any idea about USB drivers if it will ever be possible? I have synths and gear that needs firmware upgrades with flashers that only run on Win/Mac and I haven’t been able to get them to work with Wine.

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      • fluxx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        AFAIK there is no reason why vst companies wouldn’t produce linux builds, vst has been opened for Linux for a long time now, they just need to port it. iLok should also be possible, though I personally hate it, but I’m not a pro.

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      • melfie@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        To anyone suggesting I don’t use Ableton or my VSTs that don’t work…

        I hear you. I’ve been using Cubase and other older tools for over 20 years. I get that DAWs like Reaper or Bitwig would work better, but I really don’t want to retool as much as I want to avoid Windows. I’ve been meaning to to test out WinBoat whenever I have time, but not sure how DAWs perform in a VM either.

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      • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Is Ableton stable enough is you only use output? Do you know if ut supports M4L?

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    • BaraCoded@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Very interesting comments. Does anybody know of a good linux alternative for FLStudio? I’ve seen LMMS, but I’ve also read it wasn’t quite there yet

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    • melfie@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’d really like to run a newer version of Cubase myself. I’ve gotten older versions running on WINE, but 12+ has display issues.

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m glad I don’t really have any apps that require windows any more (apart from Affinity, which doesn’t run in wine that well).

    Foobar2000 genuinely works so well in wine that I forgot there wasn’t a native Linux release.

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    • Wfh@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      github.com/seapear/AffinityOnLinux

      There’s a Wine fork tweaked especially for Affinity that works amazingly well.

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I tried an Affinity-specific for of wine before, not sure if that’s the one, but it was very slow and crashed a lot. Although that was a few years ago, I’m sure it’s gotten a lot better.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’ve replaced fb2k with DeaDBeeF entirely.

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Tried that and it’s good, but more of an alternative to WinAmp, rather than foobar IMO. Foobar is soo much more customisable.

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  • dellish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is great, but does it handle GPU acceleration yet? The main thing I still need Windoze for is SketchUp and I have never managed to get it to work because I get a GPU acceleration error. Any hints would be welcome.

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  • deathbird@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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